Linux-Hardware Digest #598, Volume #10 Sat, 26 Jun 99 14:13:37 EDT
Contents:
Re: Best sound card for use w/ Linux? ("Petr Hlavka")
Re: Compatibility ("Andrew J. Norman")
trouble with CS4232 sound card (LittleElmo)
Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2 (Alex Lam)
How to make Video CDs on linux (?) (Andrew de los Reyes)
Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2 (Alex Lam)
Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2 (Alex Lam)
Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2 (Alex Lam)
Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2 (Alex Lam)
Re: Motherboard question (Matthias Kilian)
Re: Looking for Laptop "power" utility for linux (John Stembridge)
Re: Ensoniq AudioPCI ??? (Walter Francis)
Q: ASUS MB with FX chipset and RAM upgrade 64 Mb => 128 Mb. Worth it? (Vladimir
NOVIKOV)
Video Driver for Matrox G200 AGP 8Meg? ("Bill Wooldridge")
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Re: (despite my occasional anti-linux post, read this) was Re: Monitor (Alex Lam)
howto - radio- and sound card? (Zolee)
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From: "Petr Hlavka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Best sound card for use w/ Linux?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 17:36:58 +0200
I use Pine PCI card based on S3 Sonicvibes chip. It works quite good,
although the driver has some problems. This card can also play midis through
ist FM synth. using standard kernel OPL3 driver. It sometimes works in alsa
to.
Petr Hlavka
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From: "Andrew J. Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Compatibility
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:15:54 GMT
Okay the problem is that your video card (the ATI All-In-Wonder Pro) is
overdriving the monitor. When this occures most monitors blank the screen
and play dead (it is a protection feature to prevent perminate damage from
occuring)
The solution is to drive the monitor at a frequency which is within it's
range. Normally this is done by setting up a custom modeline in the
XF86Config file (this resides in /etc/X11 on modern RedHat systems). In
addtion you need to make sure that your sync frequences (the range at which
the monitor will opperate correctly) are also specified.
When X-Windows fires up it checks both the specified range of allowable
frequencies and the set of modelines, and eliminates ones which do no match
up. All the remaining modelines are then available, and you display is set
according to these.
In your case the default range of sync frequencies seems to be out of the
range of your monitor, but on your friend's machine, the combination of a
less advanced video card, and perhapse different timing specs, is within
the range of the monitor. The solution is to tune the parameters in your
config file to match up with the hardware.
To start:
Look in your monitor's manual for the maximum and minimum horizontial and
vertical sync frequences.
For the horitontal it will be in the range of 20-100 kHz (for exampie one
of my monitors has an allowable range of 31.5-72.0 kHz)
The line in your XF86Config that reads:
HorizSync 31.5 - 72.0
Sets this value. The Vertical rate is typically between 20-120 Hz. Again
set this value to correspond to your monitor's specs in the XF86Config:
VertRefresh 50-120
Normally this should now be enough for you to use the standard modelines
that are present in the default config file.
To make sure that you have atleast one display that will load change the
"modes" lines in the screen section (the screen section you want is the one
with the driver set to "accel" which will use the Mach64 driver if the
install program set it up properly)
Change the modes line to something like:
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
Note: you will probably want to put the low res modes first so that the
machine will display something.
To switch between modes hold down "<ctrl>+<alt>+<plus key on numeric pad>"
or "<ctrl>+<alt>+<minus key on numeric pad>" This will flip you
sequentially through the list of modes specified above. If your monitor
can not handle the settings for a given mode then it blanks the screen.
When you see this make a note of it and either don't use the default
settings for that mode or tweek the modeline settings for it (up in the
"modeline" section of the XF86Config)
A good reference for generating modelines at unussual frequences or display
resolutions is the Colas XFree Modeline generator script:
http://www.inria.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines
If you have additional problems read the documentation that is provided by
XFree86 at:
http://www.xfree86.org/
Or read one of the O'Reilly & Associates books:
Running Linux
Linux in a Nutshell
X Windows in a Nutshell (this is primarily a programing reference)
Mohamed Bensoubaya wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I acquired of K6 400 MHz on which I wish to install linux. The
> installation of linux RedHat 6-0 was held perfectly, except with regard
> to the management of the screen. The video card is recognized (it is All
> In Wonder Pro 8 Mega - Mach 64) automatically at the time of the
> installation. On the other hand, there is a problem with the monitor (it
> is Shamrock). I made tests with a second machine also functioning under
> linux RedHat 6-0. This second machine is Pentium DIGITAL, with a DIGITAL
> screen. My Shamrock monitor works very well with Pentium DIGITAL, and
> the DIGITAL monitor works very well with my central processing unit K6.
> On the other hand, the Shamrock screen remains black on K6, in spite of
> multiples tentaives of adjustments using Xconfigurator. Does somebody
> know from which comes the problem,and how to cure it?
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
>
>
>
> ===============================
> M.BENSOUBAYA
> CONGE Project
> INRIA-Lorraine
> e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ==============================
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College of William & Mary
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From: LittleElmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: trouble with CS4232 sound card
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:08:27 GMT
I have been trying to get my sound card to work for the past 6 months
I have a Crystal pnp 4232. I am running a 2.0.35-1 kernel
These are the current settings I have tried:
Sound Driver:3.5.4-960630 (Thu Jun 24 22:34:24 EDT 1999 root,
Linux poohcorner 2.0.35 #1 Mon Mar 29 09:40:49 EST 1999 i586 unknown)
Kernel: Linux poohcorner 2.0.35 #2 Thu Jun 24 22:35:32 EDT 1999 i586
Config options: 0
Installed drivers:
Type 21: CS4232
Type 22: CS4232 MIDI
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Card config:
(CS4232 MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0)
CS4232 at 0x530 irq 7 drq 1,0
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0
Audio devices:
0: CS4232 (CS4231) (DUPLEX)
Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3
Midi devices:
0: MPU-401 1.5A Midi interface #1
Timers:
0: System clock
1: CS4232 (CS4231)
2: MPU-401 Timer
Mixers:
0: CS4232 (CS4231)
I notice the midi is not being recognized.
How do I fix that?
I looked at all the past postings on this card. I was hoping that
someone had setting that worked.
Also, I don't have an /etc/conf.modules or and /etc/modules.conf
file. How do I generate one????
Any help would be apprectiated
L.E.
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:41:20 -0700
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:41:05 -0700, Alex Lam wrote:
> >Dump Redhat.. Redhat killed one of my monitor before during installation
> >probing.
> >I mean totally killed it.
>
> killed it ? The monitor shouldn't die unless you sync it out of spec
> ( and even then, it should be able to shut itself down when it's overdriven )
>
> I'd suggest you return your monitor for a prompt refund.
> --
> Donovan
Yes, KILLED it. Went totally black. Tried turned off power, restart,
plug into another box,... etc., etc., nada, nada mas, nada mias, no
more , Dead. Fini, RIP....
The monitor was just out of warranty. :(
Alex Lam.
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From: Andrew de los Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to make Video CDs on linux (?)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 07:56:45 PDT
Can someone fill me in on the details of making a VCD (video CD) in linux?
what size does the mavie have to be (320x240?), what format is used on the
CD, etc?
Thanks in advance,
Andrew de los Reyes
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:49:53 -0700
Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
> >
> >From a tech:
> >
> >A plumb well thought out response, NOT. What if the monitor is already 5
> >years old? Or more?
> >
> I second that, and it is also clearly stated if XF86Config's documentation IIRC.
> Take it from an experienced TV repair man.
> You blow them, I fix them, but usually advice you to buy a new one :)
> Why? because this kind of repair, replacing HV transformer, few transistors,
> caps, is labour intensive, parts are expensive, and you would still have the
> same monitor, and then you would try again would not you ;).
> If indeed RedHat does not warn you about this at install, you should try to sue
> them for the repair costs.
> J.
>
I bought a new monitor. Yes, older monitors are not really worth
repairing. And I cannot even find a repair man in my neighborhood.
The price of monitor is dropping like flies. Bought a new 17" (0.25dot
pitch)
monitor for $210. Including tax. Not bad. The dead monitor was already
3.5 years old.
Alex Lam.
> >
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:46:04 -0700
Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Donovan Rebbechi;
>
> DR> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:41:05 -0700, Alex Lam wrote:
> >>Dump Redhat.. Redhat killed one of my monitor before during installation
> >>probing. I mean totally killed it.
>
> DR> killed it ? The monitor shouldn't die unless you sync it out of spec
> DR> ( and even then, it should be able to shut itself down when it's
> DR> overdriven )
>
> DR> I'd suggest you return your monitor for a prompt refund.
>
> From a tech:
>
> A plumb well thought out response, NOT. What if the monitor is already 5
> years old? Or more?
>
> While its possible the newer ones, particularly those that can display
> their sweep speed parameters might well shut themselves down in self
> defense, or simply refuse to go that low and drop out of sync to protect
> themselves, older ones quite often do not.
>
> If the sync circuitry is capable of slowing it down enough to allow the
> outout transformers ferrite core to become magneticly saturated as the
> beams approaches the right border of the screen, and it has no other
> protective circuitry that can act litterally in a couple of
> microseconds, then the output transistor, and probably a lot else in the
> general power supply area will be destroyed, and about 100x faster than
> a fuse can blow. Once the core is saturated, the current can rise to
> 100 amps or more in just another microsecond, depending on the condition
> of the filter capacitor supplying the circuit. And old, high ESR
> capacitor MAY save the transistor for a few seconds and repeats IF
> the transistor can successfully shut itself off at the right border of
> the screen from such an overcurrent, but the capacitor will probably
> blow itself all over the insides of the monitor doing it. Messy.
>
> In that case, the user is out of luck, and looking at a fairly hefty
> repair charge from his neighborhood tech (if he knows about such, many
> don't appreciate the finer nuances of the results of 'good enough for
> the girls I go with' parts replacements), or the maker if they are
> within a reasonable shipping charge distance, and still want to support
> the oldies but goodies.
>
> During any install, if you do not know the exact min-max speed
> parameters for your monitor, and the monitor is not on the builtin list,
> do NOT let it probe, but choose whatever default that's currently working,
> and leave it that way until you can obtain that information from some
> source, and THEN go edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config file to set these
> limits properly.
>
> Horizontal overspeed is not usually so dangerous, but underspeed can be
> an instant killer. Grab the nearest magic marker (permanent type) and
> write it on the wall.
>
I learn my lesson the hard way. I just set up a new system, I DID NOT
let it auto-probe my monitor, I read the menu, put in the freq. range
myself...
> My condolences to the gentlemans dead monitor.
>
Thanks.
Alex Lam.
> Cheers, Gene
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:57:09 -0700
Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Dump Redhat.. Redhat killed one of my monitor before during installation
> > probing.
> > I mean totally killed it.
>
> You mean the dialog box which defaults to [NO]?
>
Yeah, that GUI installation interface.
> Along the same lines: I burned (yes, fire) up a monitor on an NT box
> a few weeks ago by cranking up the refresh rate too high.
>
What can you expect from Windblown? :0
Alex Lam.
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Monitor dies while installing Redhat 5.2
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:53:17 -0700
Barry Smith wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Dump Redhat.. Redhat killed one of my monitor before during installation
> >probing.
> >I mean totally killed it.
> >
> >Alex Lam.
>
> How can that happen?
>
The automated installer was doing it thing... probing everything....
then , my monitor started flickering for a second or so, and went black,
no more image of anything.
Alex Lam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Kilian)
Subject: Re: Motherboard question
Date: 26 Jun 1999 14:21:15 GMT
> Incidentally, one motherboard that caught my eye was an A-Open AX59PRO
> with VIA� Apollo MVP3 chipset and AMD� K6-2 3DNow! processor (450MHz).
> Does anyone know of any problems with such a configuration?
I've the AX59PRO with a K6-2-300. The only problem I know about is that the
poweroff with Linux won't work. Someone told me that the guys at AOpen know
about this problem (it's a BIOS bug), but currently don't schedule it -- it
seems to me that they aren't much interested in Linux.
Despite this (minor) bug, the AX59PRO is a good motherboard with reasonable
performance. One really nice goody is hardware sensoring, i.e. you can monitor
CPU temperature, fan speed, etc.
Kili
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Laptop "power" utility for linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Stembridge)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:56:54 GMT
Here's a handy script I use for monitoring the battery status.
Use at your own risk.
#!/bin/tcsh
#
# battery Display battery status
#
set RAW = `cat /proc/apm`
set LDV = $RAW[1] # 1=Linux driver version
set APMBIOS = $RAW[2] # 2=APM BIOS version
#
# 3=APM flags from APM Installation Check (0x00):
# bit 0: APM_16_BIT_SUPPORT
# bit 1: APM_32_BIT_SUPPORT
# bit 2: APM_IDLE_SLOWS_CLOCK
# bit 3: APM_BIOS_DISABLED
# bit 4: APM_BIOS_DISENGAGED
switch ($RAW[4]) # 4=AC line status
case 0x00:
set AC="Off-line"
breaksw
case 0x01:
set AC="On-line"
breaksw
case 0x02:
set AC="On backup power"
breaksw
default:
set AC="Unknown"
endsw
switch ($RAW[5]) # 5=Battery status
case 0x00:
set BS="High"
breaksw
case 0x01:
set BS="Low"
breaksw
case 0x02:
set BS="Critical"
breaksw
case 0x03:
set BS="Charging"
breaksw
default:
set BS="Unknown"
endsw
set PRBL = $RAW[7] # Percentage remaining battery life (-1 = unknown)
set TRBL = $RAW[8] # Time of remaining battery life (-1 = unknown)
#set UNITS = $RAW[9] # Units time
echo "APM BIOS" ${APMBIOS} " Linux driver" ${LDV}
echo "AC Status:" $AC " Battery Status:" $BS
echo "Percentage of full charge:" $PRBL
##########################
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Glen Batchelor <webmaster-nospam@allspec-d-o-t c-o-m> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:41:14 -0700, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you don't have apmd, check it out. If all you want is a battery
>monitor, look in the source of apmd on how to request the battery
>levels from BIOS. Make it an X app and there you have it..
>
> http://www.cut.de/bkr/linux/apmd/
>
> Ryengoth
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have a Dell Inspirion 7000 on which I am running RedHat 5.2. I have a
>>Windows partition as well. When I am running Windows, I can use the
>>utility which came with it for monitoring my battery power, etc.
>>However, when I am running Linux, I have no idea of how much power is in
>>the battery.
>>
>>Are there power utilities for Linux?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Tom
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ensoniq AudioPCI ???
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:03:13 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups pruned to comp.os.linux.hardware...
Nafai wrote in message ...
>I loaded the ES1371 module and nothing happened, so i ran sndconfig and it
>picked up the card as that model (which I know it is) and when trying to
>play the sample file, it gives a bunch of strange errors (it says "sox:
>known effects: avg band chorus etc. etc.") followed by "sox: effect
>'/dev/dsp/ is not known!"
As I have heard in the past, and in my own experience as a new Linux
user, Windows is *VERY* forgiving about IRQs, and especially when it
comes to rearranging PNP IRQs around hard-set IRQs.
So if you're a Windows user, I imagine your system worked fine on it,
but not for Linux, because your IRQs are not properly set. Easiest way
I found to get my soundcard and modem working was take all the expansion
cards out, meaning my modem, soundcard, and serial card out. Turn off
PNP, set IRQs where you can on the hardware, then put in the serial card
and modem (if you have an internal modem, substitute NIC if you are
networked) and get Linux happy, look at /proc/interrupts and see what
interrupts are free. Keep in mind that for some reason, my system
doesn't show interrupts I know are in use. My Ensoniq grabs IRQ 10, if
your system already has 10 used without the soundcard in, then that's
likely the problem.
Good luck, Linux is actually handling the situation better, in that it
isn't ignoring the problem of shared interrupts.
--
Walter Francis
http://wally.hplx.net Powered by RedHat 6.0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vladimir NOVIKOV)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Q: ASUS MB with FX chipset and RAM upgrade 64 Mb => 128 Mb. Worth it?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 17:04:26 GMT
Hello all,
I'm currently using an old ASUS MB with FX chipset, Pentium 100 and 64
Mb RAM.
I'd like to get another 64 Mb to upgrade till 128 Mb RAM, but it seems
that there is a bug in the FX chipset wich works badly with so much
RAM because it can only put in the cache the first 64 Mb.
Thus, with 128 Mb RAM the system is slower and not faster because the
OS is located in the non cached part of the RAM.
Is this true? If yes, what can I do.
I use Windows and Linux.
Thanks,
Vladimir
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From: "Bill Wooldridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Video Driver for Matrox G200 AGP 8Meg?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:31:10 -0700
I have just installed RedHat 5.2 on a partition of my hard drive and am
having the devil's own time getting the video configured to work with
Xwindows. Is there a driver I can install for the Matrox G200 AGP card with
8 Meg of RAM. Where can I find it? My monitor is a NEC MultiSync 4FGe. Any
hints much appreciated.
Thanks for your response
Bill Wooldridge
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:02:05 -0700
On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 03:48:32 -0400, Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Alex Lam wrote:
>
>> Brian Hartman wrote:
>> >
>> > "Martin A. Boegelund" wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article <7imhtp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> > > "Roberto Leibman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > Daniele,
[deletia]
>> Excuse me...
>>
>> Windoze easy to install?
>>
>> Heck. I've been using Windoze since 3.0, then NT since 3.5, and Linux
>> since kernel 1.x. Yes, Linux WAS difficult to install. But now, with all
>> the advanced installers from some distributions, installation is a snap.
>>
>
>Installation might be a snap from some distributions, but not from what I've
>seen. And it's hardly as straightforward as Windows.
It's also more complete. It actually lets you paritition your
disks should that be a useful or desirable thing for you to
do or just does it by itself if you can manage.
The rest is pretty much the same as a Windows install minus
the eye candy. Select and install some packages, let it
install your hardware some with input some without.
[deletia]
>Windows only needs 2 or three reboots for the whole process (about the same as
>Linux). As far as plug and play, it's more advanced than Linux's and
>recognizes more devices more easily.
If you're lucky. If not, you'll need as much arcane knowledge
as it would take to put a DOS machine back together again.
[deletia]
>> message and ask someone who knows how to interpute it to solve the
>> problem, like posting on usenet.
>>
>
>I'll agree with you on the Windows help, but the Linux help is much more
>cryptic. At least with the Windows help, you know when it's not the answer
Real computing details are like that, like things such as
IRQ and baseaddress. When things don't go ideally that's
not something you can get away from on a PC.
>you're looking for. You spend most of your time diagnosing an error message
>with Linux (if you can even find where to get it).
How else is one to know what's really going on?
Vague windows dialogs and *hlp file documenting the
obvious certainly aren't any use.
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: (despite my occasional anti-linux post, read this) was Re: Monitor
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:11:25 -0700
Xerophyte wrote:
>
> Burn red hat. Call it fried slop.
>
> I had Red Hat 5.1 (!!!) and had similar problems, except I had what quickly
> became more permanent damage after a few uses and I read up on installation
> procedures before doing anything.
>
> Go SuSE! You get a LOT more for the same amount of money and SuSE doesn't
> rely on a popular name to sell itself. I have 5.3 and will be buying 6.1
> fairly soon, believe it or not.
>
In fact. I've tried to install Redhat since 4.0 on 5 different boxes,
from old P-133
to my new dual cpu U2W SCSI server, non would install properly. But with
SuSE, everything installed smoothly on the 1st run, without even a
single hiccup.
And SuSE now costs half as much as Redhat. Even if you buy directly from
SuSE. (I did)
I think Redhat will eventually gives Linux a bad rep. Because of all the
noise that it's making lately, and they're releasing buggy distro to
flood the market (with 5.2), so they can generate more $ to make their
book looks good for the IPO not long ago. Then release a quickie (but
not thoroughly tested) bug fix (6.0) to fix the problem.
And due to all the noise it makes. Many newbies (mostly from M$ camp)
are wanting to try Linux, and many started calling Linux 6.0. As you can
see from a lot of the help requests here are from newbies who are
totally clueless with anything about Linux.And many thought Redhat *is*
Linux.
If all those newbies are all jumping on the Redhat bandwagon. Linux will
get a bad rep because of many newbies will be very disappointed about
Linux, without realizing that Redhat is only on out of a dozen or so
Linux distributions.
Yes, Redhat SUX big time. Even FreeBSD is easier to install than Redhat.
My first ever Linux installation a few years ago (pre ELF) was with
Slackware. Yes, it took me 30 hours to do it, but everything did
installed properly.
Go with SuSE or *BSD.
Alex Lam.
> Barry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I have posted this on other groups, but have had no solution.
> >
> > I am trying to install RedHat 5.2 on a very old but much upgraded Dell
> > computer. The BIOS is Phoenix, vintage 1993, and not upgradeable. I am
> > using the free distribution which came from the magazine PC Plus, and
> > created the boot disk. I have tried booting from the install floppy in
> > default and expert mode but each time the monitor dies, and the light
> > that indicates connection with the PC extinguishes. This happens soon
> > after I press ENTER from the welcome screen. I see "Loading initrd.img";
> > the monitor dies, but the disc keeps busy for a while.
> >
> > The computer uses ordinary system memory for display, and in Windows 9x
> > it runs as a default S3 type. I have searched the documentation but
> > can't find the parameter to define my display type in expert mode.
> >
> > Someone suggested fitting a video board. I don't see what difference
> > this would make and is not really a viable option. Others have suggested
> > twiddling X-Windows, but the monitor dies long before X-Windows is
> > loaded. Oddly enough, the same thing happens when I boot SuSE 5.2 from
> > the floppy. However, when I boot SuSE from Linload, everything looks
> > fine, and I have got as far as the point where you partition the disc.
> >
> > What can I do?
> >
> > --
> > Barry Smith
> > Email: sax (at) wychcraft.demon.co.uk <-- I don't want ANY spam!
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From: Zolee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: howto - radio- and sound card?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 17:30:42 GMT
How can I use my Packard Bell Radio card under SuSE linux 6.1 Kernel 2.2.5?
And
Could anyone tell me step-by-step how to set up my Gravis US PnP soundcard?
The ISAPNP finds it but I can't hear any sound.
Please write me an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], because I can't read this
list for a long time
thanks.
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