Linux-Hardware Digest #999, Volume #10 Fri, 13 Aug 99 00:13:40 EDT
Contents:
Re: identify isa ethernet adapter (continued) ("Wally\"Equinox\"")
Re: Good sound card? (Josef Maltan)
Re: TAPE - SCSI AIWA TD-S8000 (Craig Brown)
AMD Athalon & Linux? ("David J. Topper")
Re: Redhat & AWE 32 PnP (jgh)
WFQ inside linux (Anshul Kothari)
Re: which order to install triple boot Linux/NT/98 ? (hac)
Re: AMD Athalon & Linux? (Frank v Waveren)
TBS Montego 1 soundcard (Mat Loftus)
Re: HP Deskjet Printer (6XX)) series (Erik Ekedahl)
3com 3c905C Tornado (Fiendzero)
HD and OS questions (Alan Jones)
Building a Windows & Linux Compatible PC (Andy)
Re: TBS Montego 1 soundcard ("bobrien")
Re: halt segfaults (Matthias Kilian)
Re: Building a Windows & Linux Compatible PC ("bobrien")
Voodoo3 installation ("pat")
Re: *BAD* experience with SIIG ("Jim Cleveland")
Re: Cable for Imagewriter (Frank Hahn)
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From: "Wally\"Equinox\"" <wally@(_REMOVE_ME_)equinox.demon.nl>
Subject: Re: identify isa ethernet adapter (continued)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:27:46 +0200
Arvid Gregersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
7ov5co$3em$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
> I recently got hold of an old isa card with some swithches on it and I
> thought that Linux would be happy to install it since it wasn't PnP but I
> haven't got any manuals and I don't know who made the card. I was kind of
> hoping that someone here could indentify it or tell me how to fiinstall it
> or something. It's an isa card with two sockets. 1 for TP and one for the
> old 9 pin cable. The switches on it can be set to either on or off. There
> are 2 blocks of swithches with 8 switches in each which gives us 16
> swithches to consider. For each switch there is a little info but it
> certainly doesn't make any sense to me, but I figured that someone here
> might know what the letters stand for.
>
CUT
If the card has an FCC ID try searching for the manufacturer at:
http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/
Maybe they will have a website and supply more details there.
Good luck
Wally
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From: Josef Maltan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good sound card?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:26:06 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew I Rothstein) wrote:
>I'm looking for a high quality sound card that is going to work in Linux=
=2E=20
>Any suggestions? Preferably PCI as my modem is sitting in the lone ISA s=
lot.
>
>Thanks,
>Drew
-snip-
Hi,
I'm running sblive value. It works good with the emu10k1 driver from crea=
tive
labs.=20
Mike
read,composed and posted with kexpress.
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From: Craig Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TAPE - SCSI AIWA TD-S8000
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:30:08 -0700
I have the same unit, I think. Although I thought the model number was
TD-8000.
Any way the unit I have works fine with tar and taper.
Do you have all the necessary SCSI drivers compiled into your kernel or
available as loadable modules?
For me thats scsi-adapter aix7xxx.o and st.o.
If they exist as loadable modules is there a corresponding line for them
in /etc/conf.modules?
Do the SCSI tape devices exist? (ie. /dev/st0, /dev/nst0)
If you try these ideas and they don't help, post the error messages that
you get in
your follow-up.
HTH,
Craig.
Curtis Foster wrote:
> I have an AIWA SCSI tape unit. /proc/scsi/scsi sees the unit.
> I have tested it on a NT box The unit works. The box says OS required
> is MS Win 95/98 NT.
> I thought SCSI was good on Linux.
> any thoughts.????
> what App should I try.
> the mt or tar commands dont work.
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From: "David J. Topper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AMD Athalon & Linux?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:15:38 -0400
Hey folks,
Any pre-reviews of Linux running under AMD Athalon systems? It looks
like they've finally beaten Intel! Check out:
www.tomshardware.com
for the benchmarks. The IBM systems also look quite sexy.
I wonder if anyone will release an Athalon-optimized compiler?
DT
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From: jgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
ch.comp.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Redhat & AWE 32 PnP
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:19:20 -0500
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what is the error specifically? I had some issues and resolved them, something
pointing to dma...
> It's been a long time since I messed with my awe32 but as I remember I
> got it to work by telling the RH60 that I had a SBlaster 16 or Pro. It
> took me forever to figure it out.
>
> Ben
>
> Al Kooz wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I've asked questions concerning this issue before and I've read through
> > about all the howto's and README files there is on my box about that issue
> > but I still CAN'T GET MY SB AWE32 PnP to work. I'm clueless of what it could
> > be.
> > Here's a short explanation of what happens:
> > --> I install Redhat (5.2/6.0 I've tried both), run sndconfig, gives me an
> > error with the midi device, I enter my custom isapnp.conf file. --
> > Everything works.
> > --> Then I recompile the kernel (2.2.6/2.2.10)to make it smaller, with SB
> > support and lowlevel drivers for the AWE synth, and all that. I don't change
> > any settings whatoever in isapnp.conf or conf.modules. Then, whenever I try
> > to play an mp3 file or whenever I start Quake II, it starts playing the
> > sound for a second and then my whole machine locks up.
> >
> > I've tried a thousand things. I switched back to the old kernel and it
> > worked again. What could that be ? Can anybody help me? I would be happy
> > even if I only received the default .config file for the kernel, for I could
> > see what options are enabled and which aren't!
> >
> > PLEASE HELP ME !!!
> > Al
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what is the error specifically? I had some issues and resolved them, something
pointing to dma...
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>It's been a long time since I messed with my awe32
but as I remember I
<br>got it to work by telling the RH60 that I had a SBlaster 16 or Pro.
It
<br>took me forever to figure it out.
<p>Ben
<p>Al Kooz wrote:
<br>>
<br>> Ok, I've asked questions concerning this issue before and I've read
through
<br>> about all the howto's and README files there is on my box about that
issue
<br>> but I still CAN'T GET MY SB AWE32 PnP to work. I'm clueless of what
it could
<br>> be.
<br>> Here's a short explanation of what happens:
<br>> --> I install Redhat (5.2/6.0 I've tried both), run sndconfig, gives
me an
<br>> error with the midi device, I enter my custom isapnp.conf file. --
<br>> Everything works.
<br>> --> Then I recompile the kernel (2.2.6/2.2.10)to make it smaller,
with SB
<br>> support and lowlevel drivers for the AWE synth, and all that. I don't
change
<br>> any settings whatoever in isapnp.conf or conf.modules. Then, whenever
I try
<br>> to play an mp3 file or whenever I start Quake II, it starts playing
the
<br>> sound for a second and then my whole machine locks up.
<br>>
<br>> I've tried a thousand things. I switched back to the old kernel and
it
<br>> worked again. What could that be ? Can anybody help me? I would be
happy
<br>> even if I only received the default .config file for the kernel,
for I could
<br>> see what options are enabled and which aren't!
<br>>
<br>> PLEASE HELP ME !!!
<br>> Al</blockquote>
<pre>--
/helfman
"Hello, Dave. What are you doing, Dave? I'm sure we can work this out.
Daisy, Daisy..."</pre>
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From: Anshul Kothari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WFQ inside linux
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:27:31 GMT
I am suppose to implement WFQ scheduling algorithm for the linux...
basically the linux itself should schedule after looking at the
packet...
how should i go about it... should i write a device driver starting from
scratch or can i do a bit of patch in some file....
thanx in advance,
anshul
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ps: i know it sounds a bit vague but thats what my state of mind..
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From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which order to install triple boot Linux/NT/98 ?
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:43:37 GMT
Wilbur Killebrew wrote:
>
> >
> > I have Win98 on the first partition, and it lets me dual boot. Before I
> > removed NT, I was triple booting, with LILO calling the NT boot loader,
> > which then loaded either Win98 or NT. I did not see any problems with
> > NT and partitions, and my root Linux partition follows the NT partition.
> >
> > The Win98 installation overwrites the boot sector, so install Win98
> > first. After that, in my experience, it leaves it alone. What are you
> > doing that brings in a backup copy?
> >
> > --
> > Howard Christeller Irvine, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Windoze crashes and when it restarts, there goes the Linux-friendly boot
> sector because it doesn't match the backup. Had lots of Win98 crashes
> trying to download (don't have Linux set up on the net -- yet. Still
> struggling with X Windows due to broken XFree86 SiS video driver and PCI IRQ
> steering on the MB -- has ALi chipset). Disabled the K6-III's L2 cache (an
> option in the Award BIOS), and haven't crashed Windoze since. Seems like I
> also recall some problems with Windoze 98 not liking the boot sector when I
> tried to boot W98 with LILO installed. I have downloaded Explorer 5 and a
> number of updates, which also seem to help W98, but Explorer and Outlook
> Express now disconnect every time anything happens. Bah, humbug. I will be
> glad to get Linux fully operational, then, sayonara, Bill.
>
> Wilbur Killebrew. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, that explains it. You may not believe me, but I have not
crashed Win98. Then again, I don't run it very often, booting it only
to play avi files and play games. And since I bought Civ CTP for Linux,
I don't need to reboot into Win98 for games anymore.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank v Waveren)
Subject: Re: AMD Athalon & Linux?
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:48:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"David J. Topper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey folks,
>
> Any pre-reviews of Linux running under AMD Athalon systems? It looks
> like they've finally beaten Intel! Check out:
>
> www.tomshardware.com
>
> for the benchmarks. The IBM systems also look quite sexy.
>
> I wonder if anyone will release an Athalon-optimized compiler?
I haven't seen any running linux yet, but I think it's safe to say they'll
rock. From the benchmarks I've seen, they're great, but I still find the fpu
performance dissapointing, considering you've got 3 of em. Still, it's
definately on my shopping list :-)
I assume the egcs and gcc people will come up with something as soon as it's
out.
--
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From: Mat Loftus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TBS Montego 1 soundcard
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:09:07 +1000
I've been looking for ages for anything at all to help me get this
card going. All the literature says there isn't anything. I know I'm
not the only one in this fix. Talk to me, people, why isn't there
support? What can we do about it? I guess I'm going to have to write
a driver myself, so I'd appreciate any tips or stories. Are Turtle
Beach friendly?
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From: Erik Ekedahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet Printer (6XX)) series
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:09:48 -0500
I have had problems with my HP 697c, I can print assci but anything else
and the printer starts blinking the error light..... I am at a loss.
Erik Ekedahl AFN
(A Fellow Newbe)
Todd Graham wrote:
>
> I'm having a similar problem with the HP 612C, did you figure anything
> out with yours?
>
> Thanks,
>
> In article <QxKf3.1990$gE5.398035@PM01NEWS>,
> "wally.loera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I configured the printer using the print tool in Red Hat 5.2, but
> when I
> > print using the Lpr command it prints blank pages. I also tied
> printing a
> > test pages in the Print Tool, and it also prints blank pages.
> >
> > I looks like the data is being sent, because I see the light blinking.
> >
> > Has anybody had a similar problem configuring their printer?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wally
> >
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Fiendzero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3com 3c905C Tornado
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:50:30 -0500
Anyone know how to get a 3c905c Tornado up on Redhat 6.0??
Or, Where can one obtain the drivers??
please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Jones)
Subject: HD and OS questions
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 04:52:09 GMT
I'm building a new computer, mainly to run Linux on, and I have some
questions about hard drives and operating systems. I'm moving up from
a 8M 386 PC. to a 128M dual Celeron Abit BP6 system and I'm trying to
keep the new system as cheap as possible. I've mostly used Win 3.1 on
the PC. The 386 HD is a 125M, most of it compressed with Dos 6.22
Drivespace. I also have, an external SCSI zip drive and 1522 and
1542B adapters. I plan to instal the 1542B in the new computer with a
1.0xG SCSI HD solely for Linux. I'm adding a smaller IDE for
Dos/WIn3.1 and to boot LInux from. I also want to keep my 386 PC semi
functional functional (I'll be swapping the old ISA video card for a
whille).
I bought a Conner 170M HD at an auction for a few bucks. I pulled my
IDE/atapi CD-ROM out, put it in the new case and installed the 170M
drive as slave in the old box to format it and copy files. It would
not format, I assumed I had bought a bad drive. After a bit of
searching I found a used Western Digital AC2540 (540M) for $25 from a
university surplus store. I assumed that it had been formatted and
deleteed or scrubbed. I downloaded some docs from WD. I checked my
old drive, Seagate ST-3144A, and found that it was jumpered as a
single drive rather than mater with slave present.
Q1) Did I have my Cyberdrive 12x IDE/atapi CD-ROM installed
correctly? If I install it as a slave on the new box, how should the
master drive be jumpered?
After setting the master drive to master drive with slave, the Conner
drive formatted just fine and I XCOPYed all of the compressed C: drive
to the new uncomressed D: drive. I found a couple more hidden files
and copied those as well. Everything seemed to fit. However, the
Connor drive was formatted with a 4K cluster size, and yet it used a
few KB less space than that shown for drive C:. BTW, this drive is
slow.
Q2) Did I overlook something?
Next, I connected the WD drive as slave. This drive has 1048
cylinders. I set the BIOS parameters to 1023 cyl, 16 heads, 63
sectors. Fdisk indicated that the drive was labled MS-DOS_6,
formatted as primary DOS fat 16, 503MB. I saw no indication that
EZ-Drive had been used. A directory listing looks normal and shows
526K total with 18K free. From Win 3.1 I can examine subdirectories.
There are many hidden files. It appears to have WIN95, Office 95 and
WIN 98 installed, although that seems like a lot for this drive. It
will be interesting to see how this drive boots up on the new
computer.
I don't really want to run Win95/98. At least not enough to pay for
it. I did not like using it the few times that I was forced to.
However, I had promised to do some consulting on a small hobby program
that ony runs on WIN95/98/NT. Actually it runs well on an Apple
somputer with a Windows emulator, so I was hoping t than that shown
for drive C:. BTW, this drive is slow.
Q2) Did I overlook something?
Next, I connected the WD drive as slave. This drive has 1048
cylinders. I set the BIOS parameters to 1023 cyl, 16 heads, 63
sectors. Fdisk indicated that the drive was labled MS-DOS_6,
formatted as primary DOS fat 16, 503MB. I saw no indication that
EZ-Drive had been used. A directory listing looks normal and shows
526K total with 18K free. From Win 3.1 I can examine subdirectories.
There are many hidden files. It appears to have WIN95, Office 95 and
WIN 98 installed, although that seems like a lot for this drive. It
will be interesting to see how this drive boots up on the new
computer.
I don't really want to run Win95/98. At least not enough to pay for
it. I did not like using it the few times that I was forced to.
However, I had promised to do some consulting on a small hobby program
that ony runs on WIN95/98/NT. Actually it runs well on an Apple
somputer with a Windows emulator, so I was hoping t
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From: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.hardware.arch.alpha,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Building a Windows & Linux Compatible PC
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:30:58 GMT
Hi,
I'm interesting in building my own PC , I plan to have two Hard Drives, On
the main one i want to run Windows, and the slave or secondary one, i want
to run Redhat.... I also plan to use a mother board that supports Dual
Processors, Does Windows suport this?...I know Redhat does. I was
wondering what kind of Hardware you guys think I should get, to make my
system compatible to both Redhat And Windows
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From: "bobrien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TBS Montego 1 soundcard
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:34:14 -0300
I've got a Montego II, sharing the same problems as yourself. I hate having
to boot into Win98 just to hear my computer make some noise for a while. A
silent Redhat is a cold and lonely one. I would love to hear someone tell
me there is a sound driver which supports aureal 3d cards.
Mat Loftus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've been looking for ages for anything at all to help me get this
> card going. All the literature says there isn't anything. I know I'm
> not the only one in this fix. Talk to me, people, why isn't there
> support? What can we do about it? I guess I'm going to have to write
> a driver myself, so I'd appreciate any tips or stories. Are Turtle
> Beach friendly?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Kilian)
Subject: Re: halt segfaults
Date: 12 Aug 1999 17:56:27 GMT
Lazer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I am having a problem when running halt. This is what I get when running
> it:
I've the same problem with an AOpen mobo (ax59pro). AFAIK this is a BIOS
problem (Award BIOS). The worst thing is that this already has been fixed by
Award, but there are companies that didn't fix this in their (mobo specific)
own BIOS versions. I tried to complain several times to AOpen, but they
refused to fix the problem. In general, they seem to dislike any contact to
customers, so I can only recommend not to buy AOpen mobos.
You should try to complain to your motherboard company. Perhaps they are
willing to fix the BIOS.
Kili
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From: "bobrien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Building a Windows & Linux Compatible PC
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:36:12 -0300
Windows NT does, windows 9x doesn't as far as I know. you might also want
to consider putting linux on the main drive and run WinNT secondary... you
will grow to love linux and hate MS as you go... from a newbies experience.
Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> I'm interesting in building my own PC , I plan to have two Hard Drives, On
> the main one i want to run Windows, and the slave or secondary one, i want
> to run Redhat.... I also plan to use a mother board that supports Dual
> Processors, Does Windows suport this?...I know Redhat does. I was
> wondering what kind of Hardware you guys think I should get, to make my
> system compatible to both Redhat And Windows
>
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From: "pat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Voodoo3 installation
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:51:36 +0100
Hello,
I have just finished my first installation of Suse Linux 6.1 and am now
faced with the problem of installing my graphics card. I have downloaded the
drivers using Win98 onto a fat32 drive and now want to install them. I
presume I mount the drive as Vfat and then copy the files over onto the
Linux partiton .. but where do I copy them to and how do I install them.
Feel like I have a rather large mountain to climb with my first install. Any
help would be much appreciated.
Also how do I load and install modules?? I have a modules floppy disk which
came with Suse 6.1 but don't know how to install them. Also downloaded newer
kernel but also don't know how to load it.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Pat in Ireland
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Reply-To: "Jim Cleveland" <Remove "Spambytes" to reply>
From: "Jim Cleveland" <jclevel1(Spambytes)@rochester.rr.com>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.main,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Subject: Re: *BAD* experience with SIIG
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:05:14 -0400
I've read a number of these posts about the SIIG Ultra ATA card.
Essentially, the original poster(s) experienced the exact same problem I've
had trying to install a Promise Ultra ATA66 card in my older Dell XPS P90.
Conflicts, lost drives, etc. Maybe its something about the BIOS that
supports UltraATA that's incompatible with older machines?
If these cards can't work with older machines, the manufacturers should just
say so, and save people a lot of headaches.
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: Cable for Imagewriter
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:01:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:14:51 GMT, Richard Petty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <7ot47n$s9p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Wright"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I plan to use an Apple Imagewriter II. What cable do I use, a custom cable,
>>a 25 pin parallel to 8 pin serial cable or is there a 9 pin serial to 8 pin
>>serial?
>
>
>That printer was actually manufactued by Toshiba. When you use it in it's
>ASCII mode, it was pretty darned fast.
>
>I'm sure Apple has technical domentation on it. It's nothing special and
>I'm sure you'll get it working with Linux.
>
Here is my reply to your post of July 30th.
==============================previous reply==============================
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:22:27 -0400, John Wright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>I have installed Linux-Mandrake 6.0 (Red Hat) and one printer option is to
>select the use of Apple's ImageWriter II dot matrix printer on my PC clone.
>My problem, which I haven't been able to resolve after questioning the
>company, several computer stores and reviewing the literature, is what
>printer cable is to be used. Does it require a custom cable, a 25 pin
>parallel to 8 pin serial cable, or is there a 9 pin serial to 8 pin serial
>cable around.
>
I have an Imagewriter I (currently not being used). It has a DB 25-pin
female connection on it. It sounds as if the Imagewriter II has a
different style of connector.
I'm assuming the Imagewriter II is still a serial printer just like
the Imagewriter I. You will need to connect this printer to a serial
port unless you have a parallel-to-serial port converter device that
I have seen sold in various computer catalogs.
This cable will also need to be a null modem device if I remember
correctly. I believe the (at least with the Apple IIe) Super Serial
card had a jumper block that converted the card for use between a
printer and a modem. You could use the same straight through cable
for both a printer and a modem.
I would do a search for Macintosh/Apple equipment and see if you
can find someone who sells cables. I'm sure one could be made with
a little work.
One company that I have purchased Sun cables from is:
http://www.ultraspec.com
They don't carry Apple stuff specifically, but they sure do carry
a lot of different cables. Maybe one of theirs may work.
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