Linux-Hardware Digest #347, Volume #12           Sat, 26 Feb 00 01:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: Zip-100 under Linux.... (Werner Kliewer)
  Re: Lexmark 2030 Jetprinter Driver Help w/Link to Driver Site (Iceman)
  Re: Redhat6.1 & Win modem or Linux's Dirty little Secret? A ? and a rant! 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  basic partitioning issue (aSTRo)
  Re: Burned system!? (Carl Fink)
  Re: Update on Linux + OS/2 + Win2k system (Mark Dodel)
  Re: Adding New Larger Hard Drive To Old Machine (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Linux and Video Card (Scott W. Petersen)
  Re: Help!: NE2000 Ethernet Configuration (Scott W. Petersen)
  Re: Linux vs Windows docs (was: Re: Linux sucks) (Dale Huckeby)
  Re: 2.2.x SMP and DK440LX issues (Robert Redelmeier)
  Re: Burned system!? (Robert Redelmeier)
  Re: 2.2.x SMP and DK440LX issues ("Dmitri A. Sergatskov")
  Re: USB modem ???????? ("Andrew O. Hodges")

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Crossposted-To: alt.iomega.zip.jaz,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Zip-100 under Linux....
From: Werner Kliewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:03:23 CST

Then either Iomega has changed their policy, which would surprise me 
only a little; or you have a cartridge that was not partitioned and 
formatted by Iomega, which would surprise me more. Unless you did it 
yourself. Or unless the newest IDE drives hide the partition 
information somehow ...

There are many possible explanations for this, and I have not followed 
Iomega and Zips for the last few months ... since they replaced my SCSI 
drive with the click-of-death, I have had no other problems with the 
new drive or my older parallel port model.

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From: Iceman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lexmark 2030 Jetprinter Driver Help w/Link to Driver Site
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:03:34 -0800

Would ye like the good news or the bad? Lexmark printers
don't have a great history of working well with linux. Try
this site: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redhat6.1 & Win modem or Linux's Dirty little Secret? A ? and a rant!
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:26:44 GMT

<previous posts: snip>
> But if you want to make sure, buy a model that several other people
> are using successfully under Linux.

I've got a 3Com Megahertz 56K Global GSM & Cellular Modem. Has anyone
gotten this to work under Linux? cardctl knows the PCMCIA card is there,
but my modem program (standard RedHat utility under X) and 3Com's
WorldPort program can't find it.

- Paul M Lieberman



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (aSTRo)
Subject: basic partitioning issue
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 05:01:03 GMT

i'd like to ask about partitioning.  i recently created a new
Linux partition and Linux swapfile partition on my 8gig Maxtor drive
which is primarily for my Win98 system. i used "partition-magic"
because i thought it would be safest for a first-time partitioner. it
all seemed to go really well, but i ended up with some mysterious
"free space" after the partitioning was complete. 

this "free space" [about 180 megs] does not belong to any partition
and doesn't seem to be a partition in itself. when i try to use
partition-magic's "redistribute free space" command, nothing happens,
as if partition-magic is quite happy with it the way that it is.
perhaps it means a different kind of free space. 

curiously also when i created the additional linux swapfile partition
i specified about 140 megs for the size of the swapfile partition but
partition-magic created a 70 meg swapfile partition surrounded by a
sort of 'blanket' of something called "extended", which is also 70
megs. now, after reading a post here on this newsgroup, i understand
the need for "extended" which serves as a "home" for logical
partitions. but really, 70 megs?

the partitions listed by partition-magic are:

FAT32 [size 7004][used 1135][free 5869][status: active][pri/log:
primary]

Linux Ext2 [size 1027][used 236][free 791][status: none][pri/log:
primary]

Extended [size 70][used 70][free 0][status: none][pri/log: primary]

Linux Swap [size 70][used 0][free 70][status: none][pri/log: logical]

Free Space [size 180][used 0][free 180][status: none][pri/log:
primary]

but the linux program cfdisk [which i fired up to have a look-see]
seems to report things as being slightly different. i can provide more
details if necessary.

I was kinda spooked about using fdisk or Linux's cfdisk to create
partitions because I was afraid that I would mess up my hard drive. I
had never partitioned before. Just today I carefully re-read the
manual for Partition-Magic and tried experimenting to see what was
possible with the free space. I could add it to the Linux Swap
partition if I wanted, but what I really want to do is lump it with
the primary Windows partition. That doesn't seem like an option
though, because it involves moving the Linux ext2 partition which
"moves it past the 1024 sector position" which "might cause the OS to
become unbootable".

is all of this normal? the partition-magic helpfile don't seem to be
very useful... naturally i don't want to waste any space. if anyone
has any insights, they will be appreciated. thank you!

P.S. Slackware Linux 7.0

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Burned system!?
Date: 26 Feb 2000 04:30:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:26:39 -0500 ajam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nothing.  I just happen to be running Linux in that machine, and this is
>a hardware-related newsgroup.  Didn't you read what I wrote before?

Sure, otherwise how could I have summarized it?  I just think the
odds are better you'll get a useful answer on the appropriate group,
say comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Guest of Honor in 2000 will be Geoffrey
A. Landis.  See <http://www.iconsf.org> for I-Con information.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Dodel)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.storage
Subject: Re: Update on Linux + OS/2 + Win2k system
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 05:14:15 GMT

On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 02:43:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

-)In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/25/00 
-)   at 09:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Stephenson) said:
-)
-)>In article <FAlt4.759$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-)>        [EMAIL PROTECTED] enquires, innocently:
-)
-)>> What costs $30 grand?
-)
-)>Windows 2000 TCO ?
-)
-)What's TCO?
-)

Total Cost of Ownership - all the crap you have to go through to keep 
any microsuck product running.

 
--

 From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
             Healthcare Computer Consultant
                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel

  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Adding New Larger Hard Drive To Old Machine
Date: 26 Feb 2000 00:16:15 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:53:30 -0500, mike <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
shouted forth into the ether:
>Hi,
>    I have a five year old Pentium 166 box and have a 6.2 GB
>hard drive. I want to replace it with a larger one.
>I have heard that computers, especially older ones have
>limits on how large a hard drive can be recognized.
>   How can I tell how large a hard drive my system can
>accept?          (IDE Type)

The problem with older computers not recognizing large hard drives is
actually a problem in the BIOS.  The simple test is "Does the BIOS setup
program allow me to set 'large' or 'lba' mode for disks?"  If so, no
worries.  If not, things might get a little complex with partitioning the
drive, since the BIOS reads the drive geometry and fdisk/cfdisk use that
drive geometry to write the partitioning info.  You can specify an actual
drive geometry to fdisk and the kernel; it might be worthwhile to read
those docs should you suspect problems.

Since Linux itself doesn't use the BIOS for anything, it can support disks
up to 37.5G (< 2.2.14) or 137.5G (higher kernels).  LILO uses the BIOS for
disk access, so the kernel image and loading map might have to be in the
first 1024 cylinders of the disk.  This limit falls in the 2G or 8G
range--should be plenty, provided you partition well...


-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows        \          In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity   \----\    there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see     \    
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott W. Petersen)
Subject: Re: Linux and Video Card
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 05:19:03 GMT

I have the same laptop, Xfree 3.3.6 just started supporting that card.
I am using SuSE 6.2 and had 3.3.4???  I had to download and compile
3.3.6 and it works great, really great.


Scott


On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:02:24 -0800, Peyman Rezvani
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have purchased an HP notebook (F1676) Ominbook XE2.
>The video card is Silicon Motion Lynx EM but the problem is that
>the card is not in the list of supported video card from
>RedHat Linux 6.1.
>I was wondering if anybody else has experienced this problem before.
>Is there a kind of compatible video card that I can use?
>Any help is appreciated.
>Peyman
>
>


====================================
Scott W. Petersen - N9SLA
Web Page:  www.wwa.com/~scooter
Elgin, IL - USA
ICQ 8287204
Packet E-mail:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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PLEASE note e-mail address is scooter @ wwa.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott W. Petersen)
Subject: Re: Help!: NE2000 Ethernet Configuration
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 05:24:06 GMT

I use this card alot for my customers,

I always use the QSTART program on the disk to make the card a non
plug and play, and 10irq and 300 address.

I don't use red hat but rather SuSE and always works.  I usually
(always) compile the kernel with NE2000 support, not a module.

I would not even think about using isapnp with this great NE2000 card.


On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:51:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Help...  I'm trying to configure a Kingston KNE20T ISA ethernet
>adapter on RedHat 6.0 kernel 2.2.5-15.  I'm using the isapnp utility
>to create a conf file, and when I test the configuration, I'm getting
>a Fatal resource conflict allocating 32 bytes on IO at 300.  Then says
>to check the /proc/ioports file.   I've also tried base io's of 210,
>240, 3e0, etc. to on avail.  I've also used the config disk that came
>with the adapter to disable PnP and assign a specific IRQ and IO and
>this did not work either.  Here's a list of the /proc/ioports and
>isapnp.conf file.  Can anyone help me find an io range that will work?
>
>Thanks
>Tracy  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>/procs/ioports
>
>0000-001f      dma
>0020-003f      pic1
>0040-005f      timer
>0060-006f      keyboard
>0070-007f      rtc
>0080-008f      dma page reg
>00a0-00bf      pic2
>00c0-00df      dma2
>00f0-00ff              fpu
>0170-0177      ide1
>01f0-01f7              ide0
>02f8-02ff              serial(auto)    
>0300-030f      3c509       (this network adapter configures ok)
>0376-0376      ide1
>03c0-03df      vga+
>03f6-03f6              ide0
>03f8-03ff              serial(auto)
>
>
>
>isapnp.conf
>
> Card 1: (serial identifier 02 f0 36 97 0f 00 20 83 2e)
># Vendor Id KTC2000, Serial Number 4030109455, checksum 0x02.
># Version 1.0, Vendor version 1.0
># ANSI string -->Kingston EtheRx KNE20 Plug and Play ISA Adapter<--
>#
># Logical device id RTL8019
>#     Device support I/O range check register
>#
># Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
># Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be
>changed if required
># Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy
>
>(CONFIGURE KTC2000/4030109455 (LD 0
>#     Compatible device id PNP80d6
>#     Logical device decodes 10 bit IO address lines
>#         Minimum IO base address 0x0240
>#         Maximum IO base address 0x0380
>#         IO base alignment 32 bytes
>#         Number of IO addresses required: 32
> (IO 0 (SIZE 32) (BASE 0x0300) (CHECK))
>#     IRQ 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12 or 15.
>#         High true, edge sensitive interrupt
> (INT 0 (IRQ 9 (MODE +E)))
> (NAME "KTC2000/4030109455[0]{Kingston EtheRx KNE20 Plug and Play ISA
>Adapter}")
> (ACT Y)
>))
># End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK)
>
># Card 2: (serial identifier c5 97 27 b0 c3 94 50 6d 50)
># Vendor Id TCM5094, Serial Number 2535960771, checksum 0xC5.
>#     Version 1.0, Vendor version 1.0
>#     ANSI string -->3Com 3C509B EtherLink III<--
>#
># Logical device id TCM5094
>#     Device support I/O range check register
>#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x38
>#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3a
>#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3c
>#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3d
>#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3e
>#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3f
>#
># Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
># Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be
>changed if required
># Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy
>
>(CONFIGURE TCM5094/2535960771 (LD 0
>#     Compatible device id PNP80f7
>#     IRQ 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12 or 15.
>#         High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
> (INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E)))
>#     Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
>#         Minimum IO base address 0x0210
>#         Maximum IO base address 0x03e0
>#         IO base alignment 16 bytes
>#         Number of IO addresses required: 16
> (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0210) (CHECK))
> (NAME "TCM5094/2535960771[0]{3Com 3C509B EtherLink III}")
> (ACT Y)
>))
># End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK)
>
># Returns all cards to the "Wait for Key" state
>(WAITFORKEY)
>
>
>
>


====================================
Scott W. Petersen - N9SLA
Web Page:  www.wwa.com/~scooter
Elgin, IL - USA
ICQ 8287204
Packet E-mail:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================================

PLEASE note e-mail address is scooter @ wwa.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Huckeby)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows docs (was: Re: Linux sucks)
Date: 25 Feb 2000 21:17:18 -0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>But y'all miss my point. I want the information *without* having to
>log onto the net. Web sites are slow and frustrating to find things
>in. And the quality of the docs on the web is great if you have a
>degree in computer science, but pretty incomprehensible to a
>non-techie. Trust me on this -- I have degrees and consider myself
>educated, but have had very poor luck understanding what passes for
>Linux documentation. And besides, what if the user can't get the modem
>working?
>
>There is a market for a real, paper book. People will pay for it.
>Right now, I find the one most lacking is a "Linux for Windows Users."
>I'm surprised no one has written one yet. (And if there are any
>aspiring authors out there, e-mail me -- I can almost guarantee
>getting it published.)
>
>And don't suggest the useless thing that Corel ships with their
>product. It just repeats verbatim what is in the help. And even that
>doesn't help. E.g., for what to put in the box where it says "Gateway"
>it says, "enter your gateway here." Well, duh. That was obvious from
>the screen. What the newcomer needs is troubleshooting and
>explanation. What is a gateway in the first place? Why is it
>important? Where does the user figure out where to get the address to
>put in the box? Remember, I'm talking Windows users here -- they have
>never heard of TCP/IP. Windows handled all that stuff for them.

  All this rings true.  What Bill Gates understands that many
developers don't is that most end users want computers to perform
specific tasks with no knowledge of the inner workings: in other
words, appliances.  You shouldn't have to "configure" your phone or
fridge to use them.  Like many others I use Linux because I like
to stay off the beaten path, have some specific needs that only
Linux can meet, and _am_ willing to mess around under the hood to
_some_ extent (moreso as I gain confidence and win little victories).  
And people on this and other newsgroups have been very helpful, for 
which I'm grateful.  But as far as the book you're talking about, 
there is one which might be somewhat like you're looking for, which
is Michael Kofler's _Linux_ (2nd ed).  He tends to explain things
from a generic Linux viewpoint, not specific to any given distro, and 
he gives lots of commandline info, spelling out specific commands to 
solve particular problems or perform a specific tasks.  The book is
a nice combination of depth and user-friendliness, and the more I use
it the more I like its organization.  Kofler has a real knack for
anticipating lots of little things that crop up when you're putting
together a Linux system as a newbie, things like how do I change
that ugly, eye-straining white on black at the shell prompt to black
on white.  Whatever obscure little detail it is, I go looking through
all my Linux books, but seem to find the answer in Kofler more than
all the others combined.  It's a _really_ nice and thorough intro to
Linux.

Dale Huckeby
  





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From: Robert Redelmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: 2.2.x SMP and DK440LX issues
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:26:50 -0800

Dmitri A. Sergatskov wrote:

> I updated multiple dual-CPU computers to RedHat 6.1 and recently
> noticed that the computer built around Intel DK440LX (2X 333 MHz P-II)
> motherboard has some "problem" in SMP mode. All benchmarks I tried
> (MATLAB bench() or custom compiled Fortran code) are running
> significantly (almost twice, but varies) slower in SMP mode than in UP
> mode. In UP mode the numbers are the same as with similar system built
> on 440BX motherboard (also 2X333Mhz) and the same as they used to be
> with RedHat 5.2 (and earlier) and 2.0.x kernels.
> 
> The simplest "benchmark" I tried is the following trivial loop:
> 
>       double precision x,y,z,sum
>       integer i,j,k
>       sum = 0.0d0
>       do i = 1, 1000
>       do j = 1, 1000
>       do k = 1, 100
>       sum = sum + real(i)*real(j)/real(k)
>       end do
>       end do
>       end do
>       write (6,*) sum
>       end
> 
> On LX machine 'time -v' gives: 11.5 sec. user, 5.5 sec. system (18 elapsed)
> and approx  100 page faults (in case it matters), on BX the same binary
> would result in: 11.5 sec. user, 0.1 sec system (11.5 elapsed)and also
> 100 page faults.

A very interesting question.  I am staggered that a simple CPU-bound 
task like this could consume 5.5s system time.  Could it be that real()
call?  IIRC, my heavily CPU bound `cpuburn` asm never consumes much
system time at all.  Even more odd that the BX isn't affected, but
the LX is.  Is there some `wbinvd` being issued at SMP task-switch?

-- Robert  author `cpuburn`  http://users.ev1.net/~redelm

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From: Robert Redelmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burned system!?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:49:00 -0800

ajam wrote:
> again.  At that point I turned it off, bought a new box with a new power
> supply and everything else, and move all the components fromt the old to
> the new box.  Well, now when I turn on the switch in the machine, the
> power goes on;  the cpu power goes on as well; but the machine itself
> does not.  I don't know at this point what exactly happened; if
> something got burned or not.  And if something got burned, what exactly
> did.  Either way, I know that this might be a little bit different 

Well, did you do anything that might have made it fail?  In general,
you have to be very careful with mobo mounting, not to short anything
to ground.  Also watch the unused power supply connectors aren't grounded,
any peripheral circuit boards, etc.

Unplug or remove everything except keyboard, video card (&mon), speaker and
power switch.  If you can, substitute known-good components for these.
Reseat CPU, memory and any socketed chips [BIOS]  Power on, observing
patiently:  do the kbd LED's flash? does the speaker beep at all?  Plug
a floppy in--does it try to boot blind from floopy? With luck, you will 
have a BIOS boot screen.  Then plug components in one-at-a-time 
(poweroff) until you get a boot failure. 

If you don't get a BIOS screen, you have to check out your video and kbd.
Then it could be mobo, CPU, DRAM or BIOS.  Well equipped PC shops will
use a POST card to determine which.  If you haven't been practicing 
"safe computing", you might have a BIOS reflash virus.

-- Robert

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From: "Dmitri A. Sergatskov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: 2.2.x SMP and DK440LX issues
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:01:18 -0700

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Robert Redelmeier wrote:

> A very interesting question.  I am staggered that a simple CPU-bound 
> task like this could consume 5.5s system time.  Could it be that real()
> call?  IIRC, my heavily CPU bound `cpuburn` asm never consumes much
> system time at all.  Even more odd that the BX isn't affected, but
> the LX is.  Is there some `wbinvd` being issued at SMP task-switch?
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I do not know.

Alan Cox thinks that I have a problem with scheduling and the task get
(excessively) bounced between two CPUs. So, I guess, the system time
does come from scheduler. 

The question remains why does it show up on LX board only (I have SMP FX, 
BX and GX around and they are all OK).


> 
> -- Robert  author `cpuburn`  http://users.ev1.net/~redelm
> 

Dmitri.



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From: "Andrew O. Hodges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] DON'TSPAM>
Subject: Re: USB modem ????????
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 06:00:51 -0800

If you get the latest kernel download  (probably need to compile it yourself
for best results) their is beta USB support, but it's far from being
perfect.

#LAW KAI MAN# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>  any 1 can help to make aztech USB modem work in Redhat 6.1 ?
>



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