Linux-Hardware Digest #371, Volume #12 Tue, 29 Feb 00 11:13:06 EST
Contents:
MouseManPlus where are you? ("George & Kay Anzinger")
HP Pavilion 8201 (EngHee)
Re: heating linux ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Wireless Keyboards and Mice ("George & Kay Anzinger")
Re: KUDZU - Auto Hardware Detection [FAILED] (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: Aureal vortex 2 (8830) driver for Linux ("Steve Snyder")
Re: dual xeon or single athlon? (Bryan)
on board NIC, Sound, Graphic
Re: TNT2 Clock Utility - Detonator 3.76 (Anton Deguet)
Re: dual xeon or single athlon? (Bryan)
Overclocked Celery hangs! ("Richard Gaywood")
Re: Tape Drive backup for RH linux 6.1 (Skip)
Re: Problems with LPT`s (Skip)
PII, PIII, or celeron? And do motherboard names matter? (Lev Tarasoff)
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From: "George & Kay Anzinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MouseManPlus where are you?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:29:28 -0800
I have a MouseManPlus mouse. It has a PS/2 plug and an adapter to serial.
How can I set this up to use the scrolling wheel.
So far the best set up seems to be to call it "Auto". X then plug-n-play
ids it and sets it up as a three button mouse. Still I would like to get
the wheel on the program.
Any thoughts out there.
For what it worth, I dual boot with NT4.0. The wheel works there in Emacs.
Scrolls and all. Emacs help describe key gives "vertical-scroll-bar
mouse-1". So it looks like emacs is ready, just need to get the connection
made. xev showed nothing when the wheel is moved. Help.
George
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From: EngHee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP Pavilion 8201
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 13:30:04 GMT
Need Help.
My PC is HP Pavilion 8201 with Ensonic sound,Gold star CD-ROM,
K56flex DSVD Modem.
I'm install RedHat Linux .
And succes install and logon into Xwindows.
But,,Don't Know how to install Modem, CD-ROM & Sound Card Driver.
I'm first time see the Linux and don't how to use it,
...HElP...
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Date: 29 Feb 2000 5:52:59 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: heating linux
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Robert Hampf;
RH> Robert W. Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> h�lt �essu fram:
RH>:
RH>: My PC pulls just under 2A of current (1.89A), which means I'm
RH>: dissipating about 200 watts. Since I have a Cyrix processor and
RH>: couple of older SCSI disk drives you can fry eggs on, my power
RH>: consumption may not be typical. I expect most other systems
RH>: would consume something closer to
RH>: 100 watts.
RH> For some time I have wondered how much spare power I've got in my
RH> box. How would you measure this on a Linux-only system. I
RH> suppose you have to do more than measure the AC current as there
RH> are some different DC voltages that all have to suffice.
RH> Now I've got a Celeron 400, 3 IDE disks, 2 SCSI disks, 1 CD-ROM
RH> and 1 CD-RW. Everything is at most a year old. My power supply
RH> gives me
RH> 300W. How many disks would you let me add?
RH> rh
My educated guess is that you'll have plenty of power on the 5 volt
lines yet, but starting hungry drives might cause a momentary lag in the
+12 volt motor line. That said I'm running 3 drives totalling 12 gigs on
a 200 watter here, and 3 drives totalling 18 gigs in the linux box on
the next desk, which has a 300 watt supply of rather elderly vintage.
Between the internal, and the upfront, that skyscraper tower has room
for 12 or more drives. All of which is not germain to the question.
What you need to do as an approximation is to find the startup amps
drawn by the drives, add them all up, and compare that to the amperage
the supply says it can supply on the +12 volt line. Whatever surplus
there may be can then be used to decide if more drives can be added.
Cheers, Gene
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Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |This Space for rent
RC5-Moo! 350kkeys/sec, Seti@home 16 hrs a block
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
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� 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: "George & Kay Anzinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wireless Keyboards and Mice
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:45:54 -0800
Dear Donald,
I was up to.. in X, really lost. Then I found "The concise Guide to XFree86
for Linux".
It made my day. There is a little program call xev in the Linux system (or
maybe it is part of XFree86). Any way run it and it brings up a window to
play in. Put the focus in that window and punch those keys. In the window
you involked xev from you will see 3 or 4 lines of info for each key you hit
(also give mouse movement if you care).
The other things you need to know about is xmodmap (see the man page/info)
and the header file keyboarddefs.h (I think that is right, but it is
mentioned in the man page if I got it wrong.) Also, if you use emacs, you
can do a help, describe key and then hit the key. Even if it is not
connected in emacs, it will report the name to use when you connect it with
your .emacs file. Usually you will want to connect the key to an emacs
function. For example, I like to run my shell from emacs, so I set up a key
to go to the shell and another to generate the break command. It is also
nice to put those keys with windows logos on them to work.
I know I have not given you any fish, but maybe I have told you enough that
you can find the pole and a few worms. Good Luck.
george
"Donald R. Weimann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:86tq5h$b5g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Oktay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do the wireless keyboards and mice work with Linux?
> >
> > Oktay
> >
> > --
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> >
>
> I have a wireless logitech keyboard and mouse. I am running Mandrake 7.0
> and they both work very well. The keyboard has 12 extra keys on it. I
> haven't figured out how to program them yet in Linux so if anyone
> knows how, I would be grateful for any information.
>
> #Don
>
>
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> Before you buy.
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KUDZU - Auto Hardware Detection [FAILED]
Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:12:00 GMT
Neil Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have recently installed Redhat 6.1 on an IBM Aptive 2162 S3C -
> Also, I can't for the life of me get my printer to work... If I use the
> printer setup in the gnome control panel, It attempts to probe lp0 - 3,
> to no avail - It can't find my printer... Do I need to manually
> configure my ports? If so, how do I do that... I have been pouring over
> documentation in an attempt to avoid asking a stupid question - but to
> no avail...
The answer you need is on RH's website:
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/gotchas/6.1/gotchas-6.1-6.html#ss6.19
Basically add the line 'alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc' (w/o the quotes,
of course) to /etc/conf.modules. Then, run /sbin/rmmod lp (to
make sure the module is unloaded), and then 'printtool' to
configure your printer.
Good luck.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aureal vortex 2 (8830) driver for Linux
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:19:53 GMT
It's even easier than that. Just say Yes to kernel sound support.
Enabling OSS sound modules isn't necessary.
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:06:00 -0500, disarm wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:05:27 GMT, Vincent DECOUX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>you'll have to 1st: install the sound support and oss support as
>module or builtin, load them up before you load the 8830 module, so
>the sound is supported, but i dont know if thats your problem, why
>dont you explain deeper? :)
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a Dell Dimension PC with a Turtle Beach Montego II A3D PCI sound
>>card running Linux.
>>I downloaded the drivers from http://linux.aureal.com/ (v. 1.0.5) second
>>public release.
>>Then I uncompressed, untared, went to the directory, typed "make
>>install" (for a 8830 model).
>>And ... no sound. The makefile generates one error at the end, but just
>>iggnores it. So I guess
>>it's a non-fatal error.
>>
>>Is there a way to check my installation ? my sound configuration ? I
>>must say I'm totally at using
>>sound under Linux.
>>
>>Thanks if you can help at all.
>>Please reply to this group and CC: me as well to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>Vincent DECOUX
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>
***** Steve Snyder *****
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From: Bryan <Bryan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual xeon or single athlon?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:34:14 GMT
Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Bryan wrote:
: >
: > but I would expect that the gx chipset won't overhead and have the
: > lockup problems that the bx does. and its a FACT that the bx isn't
: > enterprise-stable for smp. no sane person would do this if they've
: > ever tried running high-intensity compute jobs on a dual p2-series
: > system.
: >
: > and for multitasking (servers), dual WILL win over single. its just
: > that mhz isn't linearly additive; but it DOES help quite a bit.
: >
: Oh, but the original poster wasn't talking about enterprise-class servers (or
: servers at all). He wants a high-performance workstation to run Linux with
: X/Gnome. I suggested that a dual Xeon is not a cost-effective choice for a
: workstation.
even desktops are servers; do a 'ps aux' if you don't believe me ;-)
: However, your claim about computer-intensive jobs/instability on BX contradicts
: my own experience. Our lab has 4 dual CPU machines: 1 with 450 MHz Xeons on GX
: and 3 with 500 MHz PIIIs on BX, all running Solaris 7. All four have been
: performing very reliably running fairly large (many days CPU time) numerical
: simulation tasks.
try running 2x the instances of seti@home per cpu. run that for more
than 2 months straight. then come back and talk to me about
reliability. I've known NO ONE to be able to run 4 seti's on a dual
BX system for more than a few weeks without a lockup.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: on board NIC, Sound, Graphic
Date: 29 Feb 2000 15:35:01 GMT
Hi,
I want to build my owr "Thin Client" (well ist rather a not so fat Client)
in a so called slime-line case. As normal cards do not fit, I am lokking
for a board with NIC, sound and video onboard.
Of course supported by Linux, because that's all I have (and want).
Can anybody out there give me some recommendationms?
Preferably an (Baby) AT, otherwise ATX
Thanks
Jacob
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From: Anton Deguet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TNT2 Clock Utility - Detonator 3.76
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:36:24 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm not picking; just trying to understand:
> In the French case would the separator after " %f\r" really be a period?
> Or would it be a comma? My understanding is that for numbers the European
> convention is 1.000,00 whereas the Anglo-Saxon convention is 1,000.00.
I am not a specialist of typo, but I usually don't use the "." for each
10E3, so I wouldn't write 1.000,00 but 1000,00. I wonder if the use of
the , in anglo-saxon country has an equivalent in the non anglo-saxon
convention.
Oh, I did use the . as separator in a function in order to simplify the
cpp process.
Anton
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From: Bryan <Bryan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual xeon or single athlon?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:36:50 GMT
Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:18:10 -0700, Vladimir Florinski
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [...]
: >If a lot of people post here saying they had SMP stability problems on
: >BX boards (in a workstation, not in a server environment), I might
: >reconsider my position. --
: Here's one vote. Hard lockups on BP6 (BX), despite trying all the voodoo
: magic, etc. With kernels up thru 2.2.15pre7, XFree 3.3.6. 7-10 day
: average between locks, 24 day max uptime. No ping, no telnet, no SysRq,
: no nothing. Mostly during unattended, idle time. A very intractable
: situation so far (since early Oct).
and I've had (at home) 2 p2b-d asus systems and a tyan tiger 100 - all
dual cpu systems. all lock up after a few weeks of seti. yes, they
have heatsink grease and lots of fans, good memory, etc, etc. and my
bp6 at work also locks up - and since I don't DARE run seti there, the
uptime is usually 2 months or more. but it does eventually lockup -
even under normal workload.
the bx chipset is NOT robust enough for FULL (and I mean FULL) cpu
saturation for the long-term. its not. really.
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(c) 2000. Publishing and/or relaying of this material on all forums other than
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From: "Richard Gaywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Overclocked Celery hangs!
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:40:39 -0000
My system's Celery 433 runs at 541 (83 Mhz FSB - yeah, I know) pretty stable
in Windoze, and used to be OK in Linux too. However, I had to reinstall RH
6.1 last week (long story) and the damn installer kept hanging until I clock
the CPU back. Now, at 488 it's fine, but at 541 the boot squence hangs at
the "Freeing unused kernel memory" stage. I wouldn't mind, but it used to
work...
Any thoughts?
--
-=R=-
"Is this what you thought married life would
be like, Homer?"
"Yeah, pretty much. 'Cept we drove around in
a van solving mysteries."
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From: Skip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tape Drive backup for RH linux 6.1
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:45:19 -0800
Brian,
I would highly suggest going with a SCSI tape drive. You'll get better
performance and won't have to worry about configuring ftape. I'm currently
using an Ecxrix VXA tape drive ($900) that stores up to 66GB compressed. This
drive like the Exabyte drives, uses an 8mm tape. From what I've seen on the
linux-tape mailing list, most of the DDS tape drives are pretty much the same
so you can't go wrong with any of them. You might just want to check out the
mailing list and review what has been said. A friend of mine has a Tandberg
drive that he swears by because of the fantastic tech support he has received.
I hope this helps at least a little in your search.
Skip
Brian wrote:
> I am building a linux box as a small scale (>50 virtual hosts) web server.
> Can anyone suggest a suitable tape backup device with automated backup
> software.
>
> Best regards, Brian
>
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From: Skip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with LPT`s
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:56:46 -0800
Hi Chris,
I recently had problems getting a second parallel port working so maybe what
I've learned will help you. As background, I'm using Suse 6.3 with the
2.2.13 kernel.
First, I would remove the append line from lilo. I don't think it's
necessary because I don't have one in my lilo and my ports work fine.
Second, check your conf.modules file. There should be a line in there that
looks something like the following:
options parport_pc io=0x378,0x278 irq=none,none
If this line doesn't exist (and after reading your message again I think it
does), you need to add it.
When you said you can cat to a port but it doesn't print write, I'm thinking
you don't have a print filter set up for your printer. Use Yast to set up
your printer which will automatically make a printcap and the apsfilter that
will allow printing ps and ascii files properly.
I need to run, but I hope this has been somewhat helpful. If not, let me
know and maybe I provide some additional information.
Skip
Christian Merz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> after read tons of how-to`s about printing and parports, I have no other
> idea how I can solve this problem.
>
> System Descirption:
>
> /dev/lp0 == web cam (Creative Labs.)
> /dev/lp1 == Canon BJ-200
>
> Kernel: 2.2.10 (SuSE 6.2)
>
> I compiled the kernel with parport and parport_probe into the kernel.
> In the append-line of lilo.conf I have wrote "lp=0x378,0,0x278,0"
>
> My Problem:
>
> If I boot Linux, sometimes it will hang after the parport0-message
> (parport0: web cam detected...). Sometimes linux boot successfully but
> then my printer does`nt work. I have checked the lpts, under Windows
> both ports working fine, so it can`t be that the ports are cause the
> problem.
>
> So I tried it with only one parport (/dev/lp0 and the canon bj-200) but
> the printer doesen`t print anything, only if I tried it with "cat xxx
> /dev/lp0" that works but all the other stuff (postscript and printing
> from a application like edy) doesn`t work.
>
> Please help me.
>
> Chris
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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:03:43 -0500
From: Lev Tarasoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PII, PIII, or celeron? And do motherboard names matter?
It's time for me to upgrade my P133 linux box, but limited dollars and
windoze focussed performance comparisons have got me scratching my
head. For numerical modelling and scientific graphics, which would
give me the best performance for the $: 450 mhz PII, 500E PIII, or 466
mhz celeron. Specifically, does the 128k on chip full speed L2 cache
of the celeron give better or worse performance than the 512k half
speed L2 cache of the PII? Also, do the latest kernels take advantage
of the Streaming SIMD extensions of the PIII? How does the K7 fair
under Linux?
Also, are the big name motherboards worth the extra $? Ie, what
are the "real" differences between say a Gigabyte mb and an
Asus mb, both with BX chipsets? And is the BX worth the extra cost
over a ZX or VIA appollo chipset?
thanks
Lev Tarasoff - Dept of Physics, University of Toronto,
60 St. George St., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA, M5S 1A7
Tel (416)-946-3019 Fax (416)-978-8905
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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