Linux-Hardware Digest #597, Volume #12 Sun, 2 Apr 00 20:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: How important is ecc for non-server? (Ronald Bruck)
Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !! (Prasanth Kumar)
Re: lm-sensors, making it work? (Mickey Stein)
TurboExpress Port 920 (Mike Schoppe)
Help Needed: Hardware specs (Hodson)
Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !! (Paul Lew)
Re: All Linux Experts, Please Help ("Dilly Abercrombie")
Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !! (Prasanth Kumar)
Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !! ("Gregory M. Hebel")
Re: S3 Savage4 installation problem with Mandrake 6.0 (Keith Rhodes)
128MB memory problem and cache problem ("nick hanno")
Re: cpuinfo reports no cache on PIII coppermine ("nick hanno")
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From: Ronald Bruck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How important is ecc for non-server?
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:37:21 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Barnet Wagman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:Apparently I've been running Linux for years on systems
:without ecc memory. How important &| useful is ecc for
:a non-server Linux system? I'm about to get some new
:hardware, to be used as a single user system, primarily
:for number crunching and software development.
I believe that traditionally, number-crunching applications are EXACTLY
the ones where ECC is preferred. It's not unusual to need a gigabyte or
more of data address space, and while bit errors are rare, there's
enough data flow here to make an error possible; and ONE error in a
numerical calculation can ruin the whole shebang, quite possibly without
your ever being aware of it.
ECC memory only costs 10% more. I say go for it.
--Ron Bruck
--
Due to University fiscal constraints, .sigs may not be exceed one
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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !!
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 18:51:40 GMT
Toolman wrote:
>
> For some of us newbies, just what is BeOS and how is it used?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dennis, WI
<snip>
BeOS is whole new operating system from a company Be formed by an X
Apple
person. They targeted it as a multimedia OS had hoped to get Apple to
replace
the MacOS with it. That didn't work out so they recast it to work on the
Intel
platform primarly.
Recently Be made their OS available with a free license to
non-commercial users
which is why there is a hubub about it right now. Like I said earlier,
after
trying it, it looks like a great OS but it still lacks drivers for much
common
hardware.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mickey Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: lm-sensors, making it work?
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:52:32 -0700
Don't know what particular hw sensor is on your via board, but I used to
use lm-sensors and km-healthcare on my abit bx6r2 and it worked great, so
then I switched to an asus p3v4x and that's the only thing that doesn't
work. It's probably just that there's no module for monitoring the strange
and unique hw monitor chip on the asus. (via 133a board).
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Unrot13 this;
> Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> It looks like I need some help here folks.
>
> I have compiled and installed the latest ic2 and lm-sensors stuff,
> modprobed according to the docs so that there is quite a few of i2c and
> lm-sensers related stuff showing in an lsmod report, installed the
> libraries, modified /etc/conf.modules, pretty much the whole maryann.
>
> The ./prog/sensord/sensord apparently runs, returning a process number,
> but ./prog/sensor/sensor reports it can't open the /proc directory, and
> there is no /proc/i2c or /proc/sensord directory.
>
> I'm probably missing something in the fine print of an overly verbosely
> divided set of docs, or VIA has a set of teeth in my shorts again.
>
> I see there are notes about the VIA chipset in the FAQ, and I think
> thats the chipset on this TYAN S1590S mobo.
>
> Has anyone succeeded in making it work, on thos mobo, with a AMD
> K6-2/3Dnow cpu?, and if so, would you /please/ post the details.
>
> Cheers, Gene
> --
> Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 400mhz
> Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |This Space for rent
> RC5-Moo! 350kkeys/sec, Seti@home 16 hrs a block
> email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
> This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material, is
> � 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
> --
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From: Mike Schoppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TurboExpress Port 920
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 14:44:49 -0600
Anyone have any experience installing one of these serial
boards?
Secondly, I am running RH 6.1 and noticed the ttyS port
being set
early in the boot sequence. Right after the initialization
of the
swap daemon.
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Does anyone know from where this drive is called? It
certainly
is not from rc.sysinit, nor from any script in init.d.
The setting for ttyS02 is wrong. However, this setting
causes
isapnp to fail due to the port address range already being
allocated
TIA,
Mike Schoppe
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From: Hodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help Needed: Hardware specs
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 20:55:51 GMT
Greetings from El Paso TX:
The EPISD is looking to update the technology manuals that
cover the MINIMUM specs equipment should have when purchases
are being considered. As a newbie to LINUX I've been given
the responsibility to make suggestions to the group in
charge regarding purchases for NEW linux based hardware.
I am mostly interested in client/server configurations,
where a set af minimum standards (?) apply to the host
machines (browsing, word processing and printing capabili-
ties needed) and of course, a more robust server (?) capable
of handling clusters of 10 servers...
The district endorses "tier 1" equipment (big name brands)
but will have to look for younger companies that offer full
support. Although one of the BIG benefits of Linux is the
posible use in "old" equipment, we are not considering that
angle yet. We would like to know if anyone on this list is
working with a company that sells pre-configured equipment,
or has experience/suggestions about software vendors willing
to help us configure equipment for our needs.
I'd be very willing to share results with interested folks:
http://bowiehs.elpaso.k12.tx.us/linuxquest/
Cheers
Alan A Hodson
Campus Technology Coordinator
Bowie High School - El Paso TX
http://bowiehs.elpaso.k12.tx.us
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 21:35:07 GMT
On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 Lucky wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Prasanth Kumar
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Lucky wrote:
>>>
>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Lucky
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >BeOS just
>>> released Their FREE version 5 for the PC. But, it's
>>> >alittle
>>> know fact that they also released a free Linux
>>> >version
>>> >too.
>>> This doesn't use the BeOS EB file system but your
>>> >Linux ext2
>>> system. The image is only 20mb. but the download is
>>> >38mb
>><snip>
>>
>>I tried out this free BeOS and it looks nice but the major
>problem
>>is poor hardware support... There is less supported hardware
>than
>>Linux had 2-3 years ago! The interesting thing is they have bash
>>and all the gnu utilities in there and much of the Unixisms
>even if
>>only skin deep. Given that the MacOS is also now Unix based, it
>>looks like Microsoft is the only company without a Unix like OS!
>>
>>--
>>Prasanth Kumar
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>Very true to a degree. I for one had absolutely no hardware
>problems. If you go to Be's site they have a hardware
>compatabilty list. Plus some hardware not on the list still
>works in some cases.
>
The "compatability" list is misleading as it may be for the full-priced
version and NOT for the free version. The free version doesn't "support"
the digital/tulip nics as it is not available to select; it is useless
for people with the digital/tulip nics.
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From: "Dilly Abercrombie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: All Linux Experts, Please Help
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 17:45:56 -0400
if you can get a login, type setup, system services, and disable kudzu.
you will have to configure your hardware from scratch from then on.
jwhill2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8c7ipn$593$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running RH 6.1 and have a problem during bootup. During bootup, I
> get a "Failure" when I reach "Checking for new hardware". Does anyone
> know how to fix this so I my system will configure new hardware
> correctly? Many Thanks.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !!
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 21:43:59 GMT
Paul Lew wrote:
>
> On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 Lucky wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Prasanth Kumar
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Lucky wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Lucky
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> >BeOS just
> >>> released Their FREE version 5 for the PC. But, it's
> >>> >alittle
> >>> know fact that they also released a free Linux
> >>> >version
> >>> >too.
> >>> This doesn't use the BeOS EB file system but your
> >>> >Linux ext2
> >>> system. The image is only 20mb. but the download is
> >>> >38mb
> >><snip>
> >>
> >>I tried out this free BeOS and it looks nice but the major
> >problem
> >>is poor hardware support... There is less supported hardware
<snip>
> >Very true to a degree. I for one had absolutely no hardware
> >problems. If you go to Be's site they have a hardware
> >compatabilty list. Plus some hardware not on the list still
> >works in some cases.
> >
>
> The "compatability" list is misleading as it may be for the full-priced
> version and NOT for the free version. The free version doesn't "support"
> the digital/tulip nics as it is not available to select; it is useless
> for people with the digital/tulip nics.
Even still, the hardware compatibility list is quite short for the
full-priced
version. It still doesn't support my fairly common 3c509 network card. I
did
find some guys webpage on the net how hacked a linux driver into working
but I
could never get it to recognize regardless. Then again, I understand Be
has
limited resources in writing drivers and a majority of people use modems
instead
of ethernet cards (which I use for a cable modem.)
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Gregory M. Hebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !!
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 22:34:53 GMT
Paul Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The "compatability" list is misleading as it may be for the full-priced
> version and NOT for the free version. The free version doesn't "support"
> the digital/tulip nics as it is not available to select; it is useless
> for people with the digital/tulip nics.
My Netgear FA310-TX is a Tulip-based NIC and it works just fine.
Greg
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From: Keith Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Re: S3 Savage4 installation problem with Mandrake 6.0
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:08:50 +0200
Harry Lewis wrote:
> I've had Mandrake 6.0
That's an old version... Get Mandrake 7.0 off the coverdisk of a magazine
an upgrade all the XF86 packages to 3.3.6.
>
>
> I've been to the vendor's Web site in the hope of finding some
> documentation
I suppose you mean S3's site? They make the chips, but the board
manfacturers do so many different things...
> TIA,
>
> Harry
By the way, I've got a Creative labs Savage 4 on my linux box, and apart
from not wanting to cooperate with my Samsung monitor at 1024x768 (I'm
stuck in 800x600), it's sort of OK...
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From: "nick hanno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 128MB memory problem and cache problem
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:06:10 +1000
g'day all,
Just bought a new PIII 533MHz (Coppermine) with 128MB of RAM. After reading
the FAQ I discovered that I had to add a line to lilo.conf to enable the
extra 64MB, so now it show's 128MB, that's fine, but now I seem to be
crashing all the time, not the OS, just most of the apps I run (and X
doesn't even start at all anymore! with 64MB everything was OK)... Errors
include 'Segmentation fault', 'Illegal Instruction', etc. Some programs (eg.
'ls', although it's random) will not run, saying 'Segmentation fault' or
something, then when typing 'ls' again will run correctly... A very weird
problem which makes me think it's dud RAM... (or a broken address line in/on
the CPU or M/B... Windows98 also crashes at every attempt to install it!
Does anyone have or know of any memory test programs that thoroughly test
the whole RAM space??
M/B is an MSI MS-6153VA, not sure what the RAM is...
Also, as someone else mentioned, /proc/cpuinfo shows 0KB cache when i know
it's got 256K (this can also be seen by the BogoMIPS rating which is around
5XX (similar to Processor MHz rating), but on my old 166MHz MMX the BogoMIPS
showed double (around 300 or so)..... what's going on??
Thanks people...
Nick.
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From: "nick hanno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: cpuinfo reports no cache on PIII coppermine
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:21:44 +1000
I have the same problem! This can also be seen by the BogoMIPS... They show
a number similar to the processor speed, whereas my old 166MHz machine had
over double (300 or more) the number of BogoMIPS... What's going on?
Anyone?
Robert L. McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just put together a new PIII 800 MHz machine. /proc/cpuinfo reports
> 0K of cache in my new processor. However, the bios reports "256K
> Enabled" when I boot. Also, intel's utility for identifying processors
> claims that I have 256K of cache.
>
> Here is a paste of the output from /cat/cpuinfo, does anyone know what
> the problem might be? Also, the kernel version is 2.2.12 and I'm running
>
> RH 6.1.
>
>
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> cpu family : 6
> model : 8
> model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
> stepping : 3
> cpu MHz : 801.838416
> cache size : 0 KB
> fdiv_bug : no
> hlt_bug : no
> sep_bug : no
> f00f_bug : no
> coma_bug : no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 2
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca
> cmov pat pse36 mmx osfxsr kni
> bogomips : 799.54
>
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
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