Linux-Hardware Digest #677, Volume #12           Thu, 13 Apr 00 12:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not. (Steve Martin)
  SB16 + Red Hat 6.1 + Mandrake = no sound? (Pete Goodwin)
  Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not. (Tony Hague)
  Re: USB support under linux (XuChen)
  Re: Athlon and Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Anybody any experience of using Linux on Research Machines kit (UK)? (Bruce Edmonds)
  Linux Sewrial mouse not working ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: "boot partition too big" message (mj)
  Re: Aztech Sound Galaxy 16 "PnP" (mj)
  Re: USB support under linux (Rod Smith)
  Re: Linux on Athlon and K7V (Rod Smith)
  Re: Replacing harddrives ("Andrew P. Billyard")
  Re: Red Hat 6.1/486 Hard Drive Question ("Jeff Susanj")
  Re: Real audio, /dev/mixer (mj)
  How do I remove Linux ("Tuxy")
  Re: Rage Fury PRO and Linux support (Lawrence Houston)
  Re: How do I remove Linux (Bryan)
  Hardware handshaking not working on serial port (Angel Rosario)
  Re: Installing New Setserial and Serial driver (Peter Bloomfield)
  kernel detects only 64mb out of 128mb -- why? (Marek Futrega)
  Dell OptiPlex GX110 - Video NOT supported (root)

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not.
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:46:20 -0400

Leslie Mikesell wrote:

> Most (all?) Linux distributions include named, which will resolve
> names exactly the same for you as it does for your ISP.  Fire
> it up, set your resolv.conf to use 127.0.0.1 (yourself) and
> you don't need to change it to match your ISP every time you
> dial a different place.

Folks, this message and many others in this thread indicate a lack
of understanding of how DNS works in the first place.

Sure, you can set up a private name server on your own system. I've
done it, just playing around. Sure, it'll cache queries for better
performance. Sure, you can set resolv.conf to point to the localhost
and it'll query that instead of another nameserver.

But if you don't have at least one nameserver to pull from that has
been configured already, it won't work.

Read the BIND documentation. When you set up a name server, you have
to give it (a) manually-entered lookup tables for the zone for
which you are authoritative, (b) IP address(es) of server(s) to which
you are slaved and from which you can pull zone refreshes, or (c)
the address of the root nameservers.

Root nameservers use option (a), since they must point recursive
queries to top-level servers for the individual zones. People
setting up (for instance) nameservers for a college or research
facility would use at least option (b) and maybe one or both of
the others, since they are responsible for providing lookup services
for their establishment. A home user would probably do either (c)
(bad choice, as has been mentioned previously in this thread) or
(b). However, option (b) cannot be used if your ISP will not give
you the IP addresses of their servers!

Remember that DNS is a huge distributed database of mappings from
domain names to IP addresses. For each and every query, this
information had to have been inserted into a portion of the
database somewhere. These numbers don't come down from on high
nor are they brought by the Easter Bunny. Your home-rolled DNS
server will resolve names into IP addresses, but it has to get
this information from somewhere. Just starting up named on your
home system won't get you resolution... the data must be fed to
it, either manually by you for your zone or by zone transfer
or recursive query from another DNS server.

(I highly recommend that persons interested in running a local
DNS server read "DNS and BIND" from O'Reilly Books. It's the
classic treatment. Be sure to get the latest version; the
format of named's config files underwent a drastic revision
in later versions of the package.)

It is true that part of the negotiation process when establishing
a PPP link *can* include the IP address of the DNS server. However,
as far as I know this only works under client packages that are
built to take advantage of it (such as Dial-up Networking under
Windows 95/98/NT). Linux can't do this because there is no built-
in mechanism to extract this information and transfer it to a
"nameserver" entry in /etc/resolv.conf. You must therefore be
provided with this information and manually configure your system.
If I am mistaken in this, I'd appreciate any corrections.

As mentioned before, if your ISP won't give you the IP address of
their DNS server(s), then change to another ISP. They're not all
this way. In fact, I have helped several of my co-workers set up
Internet connections on their home PCs and have dealt with a half-
dozen ISPs in this market, and have never seen one that did not
provide the necessary information.

Good luck!

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Subject: SB16 + Red Hat 6.1 + Mandrake = no sound?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: 13 Apr 2000 13:56:50 GMT

I'm trying to get a SB16 card to work on Linux without much success. I 
tried Red Hat 6.1 and it hangs when I try sndsetup. I tried Mandrake which 
doesn't hang but reports an error ('dump bu'?). Any ideas how to make this 
sucker work?
-- 
============
Pete Goodwin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Hague)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not.
Date: 13 Apr 2000 13:26:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Martin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>It is true that part of the negotiation process when establishing
>a PPP link *can* include the IP address of the DNS server. However,
>as far as I know this only works under client packages that are
>built to take advantage of it (such as Dial-up Networking under
>Windows 95/98/NT). Linux can't do this because there is no built-
>in mechanism to extract this information and transfer it to a
>"nameserver" entry in /etc/resolv.conf. You must therefore be
>provided with this information and manually configure your system.
>If I am mistaken in this, I'd appreciate any corrections.

Ok, I'll correct you. Firstly, get youself a reasonably current 
release of pppd.

Read the man page.

Then, find where it is started from (e.g., /usr/sbin/ppp-on),
and add the "usepeerdns" option to the pppd command line.

Write an ip-up script (normally in lives in /etc/ppp) which 
creates the file /etc/resolv.conf either by copying or linking
/etc/ppp/resolv.conf, or by a script like:

#!/bin/sh
cat > /etc/resolv.conf <<!
domain <whatever>
nameserver $DNS1
nameserver $DNS2
!

Replacing <whatever> as appropriate. That's all there is to it.

Tony.

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From: XuChen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: USB support under linux
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:52:13 +0800

"Fran�ois Biot" wrote:

> USB works fine on my Mandrake 7.0
>
> I remember that I had to recompile the Kernel, since it is beta feature.
>
> In fact, I remarked that using beta versions under linux is exactly as use
> releases version under windows (for m$ softs only).
> Last example in my head : using Kdevelop beta a few month ago was like using
> Visual C++ 5.0 under windows ( hi hi hi).
>
> About USB, this beta feature works fine fine for my GREAAAAAT intellieye
> mouse
> (those with light movements detection). m$ makes bad softs, but great mouses
> ;-)))
>
> Bye !!!!
> Aaron Saikovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7crum3$mea$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Does linux support the USB peripheral connection type or is it just a
> win98
> > thing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron Saikovski
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >

What about my USB Zip? It doesn't work, yet, under 2.2.14 :-(
Does it work under 2.3.99?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Athlon and Linux?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:37:36 GMT

  The only advice I have to you is to be wary of the Epox EP-7KXA
motherboard.  I have an Athlon 700 and everything is extremely speedy.
  I will be doing some work with my system soon, and I hope to fix
whatever issue I seem to be having, but this motherboard I think may be
causing my system to lock.
  I have disabled the onboard sound in the bios, have a dual boot
system, in Windoze I get static out of my SB Live for some reason.
Fixed with the mobo driver disk.  When running Linux my system runs fine
for a short time then becomes unresponsive to anything but the reset
key.
 There is a bios upgrade for the board, so perhaps when I flash it I
will have better luck.
  Anyways, do some research.  People with the Asus board seems to have
no problems at all.


Good luck
Mike

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A couple of questions...
>
> I am thinking about buying an Athlon 700 and was wondering how it
worked
> with Linux.  Right now I am running RH on an AMD K6-2 233 and it runs
> perfect, but a friend of mine said it ran kinda slow with his Athlon
> 600, so I wanted to get others' opinions also.
>
> Also, I need to get a new AGP video card to go with that Athlon and
was
> wondering which kind works good with Linux and is a good card.  I
don't
> need a 3D accelerator like Voodoo or anything, just something that is
> AGP and has 8Megs of memory and easily does 24-bit color in 1600x1200.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
>
> --
> "You smoke your head on strait, then drink your woes away..." - Phil
> Anselmo
>
>


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From: Bruce Edmonds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anybody any experience of using Linux on Research Machines kit (UK)?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:52:04 +0100

I am thinking of buying a kit from them to run Linux and Apache.

Please email me as well as posting.

Thanks!

Regards.

==================================================
Bruce Edmonds, 
Centre for Policy Modelling, 
Manchester Metropolitan University, Aytoun Bldg., 
Aytoun St., Manchester, M1 3GH. UK.
Tel: +44 161 247 6479  Fax: +44 161 247 6802
http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/~bruce

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Sewrial mouse not working
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:54:13 GMT

`I am trying to run Linux Red Hat 6.1 on a machine with a serial mouse
port in Com1. I use a Microsoft intellimouse with an adapter
PS2/Serial. Linux doesn't even 'see' the mouse.

Any idea why this is happening?

Thanks

TC


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From: mj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "boot partition too big" message
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:53:33 -0400

Hi,

It seems that the free space is out of the 1024 cylinder boundary...
You need to have your Linux boot drive (root ?) inside of the first 1024
cylinder area, due to a limitation of lilo. There are other boot managers, who
don't have this limitation, but since lilo is the one used by default, this
situation is a little messy. 
You could use a boot floppy instead, until you get another boot manager, that
supports boot partition being beyond 102 cyl. Debian includes one, still in
development, but it supposed to work. Check RedHat's Web site for a better boot
manager. By the way, RedHat 5.2 is pretty old. Consider upgrading.

Have luck.

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Emil alvin wrote:
>I've got a fairly new Aptiva with a 13Gb disk.  Win98 is on a 11Gb primary
>partition.  I've got 2Gb unused.
>
>When I try to create partitions for RH 5.2, I the the error message "boot
>partion too big".  There's lots of unpartioned room on the disk.
>
>Any suggestions?
>Scott

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From: mj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aztech Sound Galaxy 16 "PnP"
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:00:18 -0400

Hi,

Are you passing the right IRQ, DMA parameter? You always have to do so, even if
your card is PNP, except if your Sound card is PCI. If your Sound card uses
non volatile memory configuration (EPROM), then you must know, for which
adress, DMA and interrupt you have configured your card. If you dont know,
search for a free adress, IRQ and DMA, and configure it again, with the
(hopefully) provided setup program for DOS. Then load the module like
something  like this:

modprobe sgalaxy io=0x220 irq=0x05 dma=0x01 dma16=0x05

There maybe default settings being asumed if you don't specify anything, but i
don't know them.


Have Luck,


On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Ferry van Steen wrote:
>Hey there,
>
>I've got an Aztech Sound Galaxy 16 ISA "PnP" soundcard in my system and
>compiled all the sound modules. In the help files it said most Galaxy 16
>cards weren't actually pnp but they would work with a rom that remembered
>the addresses so it would be just like jumpers... Now when I try to modprobe
>sgalaxy.o I get an error device or resource busy and this is the only error
>it gives me...
>
>Anyone got any experience with this type of card or does anyone know of a
>possible solution for this prob?
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Ferry van Steen

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: USB support under linux
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:30:44 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        XuChen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> What about my USB Zip? It doesn't work, yet, under 2.2.14 :-(
> Does it work under 2.3.99?

For questions about specific USB device support, check:

http://www.linux-usb.org

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux on Athlon and K7V
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:44:09 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        John Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rod Smith wrote:
>> 
>> I'm running Linux on a system with an Athlon 650 and an ASUS K7M. The K7M
>> is an earlier motherboard that uses a half-VIA/half-AMD chipset. The VIA
>> half is, I believe, the same as the equivalent part in the VIA KX133 used
>> on the K7M. I've got no problems with it. Even the onboard audio (included
>> in the VIA part of the chipset) works fine for me, using the latest ALSA
>> drivers.
>> 
>  Whats the link for the ALSA Drivers? I have an Athlon 550 on Asus K7M,
> would like to use the onboard audio.

http://www.alsa-project.org/

I see they've just released a new version (0.5.7; I'm using 0.5.6).

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration

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From: "Andrew P. Billyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Replacing harddrives
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:47:12 GMT

I did this a few months back.  I stumbled upon the "Hard Disk Upgrade" mini
howto:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html

which helped tremendously.

Andrew

"Jon R. Grimshaw" wrote:

> I currently have a 1GB hard drive and a 640MB HD running linux. (Mandrake
> 7).  I recently stripped a 3.2GB drive from an old computer and would like
> to replace the two in my machine.  It is currently running as a router for
> three other machines and would like to transfer all information without
> having to start from scratch.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jon


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From: "Jeff Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.1/486 Hard Drive Question
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:31:40 GMT

I am running with a 17.2 gig hard drive on a 486 that won't boot Windows 95
without EZ BIOS because it is not able to see more than 540 Meg.  However,
it works fine with Linux since it doesn't need the BIOS support once it is
booted.  The only requirement is that the /boot directory be visible to the
BIOS.  To achieve that I made a small partition at the beginning of the disk
and mounted it on /boot.


Jeff S.


gregory117 wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I did something similar: I put a new "Maxtor 7200 RPM 13.g GB"
>harddrive into my P333 machine. It found it.
>
>
>
>
>
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From: mj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real audio, /dev/mixer
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:27:24 -0400

Hi,

Sorry, but i couldn't get any previous postings...
Are you talking about capturing a Real Audio stream and write it to disk? That
sounds really interesting. I would like to know more about this...

bye.

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Well another method, use a network sniffer and grab the packets going
>to the machine running the real audio app.
>netstat will show the connected ports to watch.
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:55:39 +0000, Martin Booth
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>That, unfortunately, didn't work. The main thing is then it would be in real audio
>>and I would want it as raw to put on a cd, so the main problem is intercepting the
>>data before it hits the sound card (since I haven't seen a real audio to raw
>>converter anywhere anyway). I thought by tinkering with either /dev/audio or
>>/dev/dsp might do it but to no avail.
>>
>>Thanks for the help.
>>
>>Martin Booth.
>>

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From: "Tuxy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I remove Linux
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:04:31 +0800

I have Linux-Mandrake 7.0 on my computer. Could someone tell me how I can
uninstall it and perform a non-destructive partition of my hard disk to
FAT32 please.

thanks






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From: Lawrence Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rage Fury PRO and Linux support
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:32:47 GMT

Lawrence Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: David Szlucha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : Thanks for the info! Do you know of any way to do this during an install 
: : of Redhat 6.2 since the installer wants to start X right away?

: I have have NOT yet had a chance to try the suggested "ChipID" with our
: Rage 128 Pro, but I successfully installed Red Hat 6.2 by requesting Text
: Mode (instead of the "default" Graphical Mode), at the first boot prompt!

PeAK's 0x5246 ChipId "workaround" also works with the Rage 128 Pro (which
has the same ChipSet as the Rage Fury Pro, as I understand it):

     http://www.angelfire.com/ca/rchau/xconfig.html#Rage128

Thanks very much!

-- 

Lawrence Houston  -  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I remove Linux
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:33:48 GMT

under dos:

fdisk/mbr

that will kill lilo.

then use dos fdisk to delete the partition.

to move things around, you'd need something like partition magic,
which seems to work ok for me.

Tuxy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have Linux-Mandrake 7.0 on my computer. Could someone tell me how I can
: uninstall it and perform a non-destructive partition of my hard disk to
: FAT32 please.

: thanks

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From: Angel Rosario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Hardware handshaking not working on serial port
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:23:06 -0400

I have written a program to redirect output received on ttyS0 into an
internal device. The system sending the serial data sends the data
much faster than my system can process it. This is needed to test
performance, so I can't slow down the other system. I have setup the
serial port to enable CTSRTS and disable XON/XOFF. However, when
looking at a line analyzer connected to the serial port, I see that
the hardware handshaking signals are always on and never change. This
makes us loose data and fail the test.

This is the output of stty on /dev/ttyS0:

     speed 115200 baud; rows 0; columns 0; line = 0;
     intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^?; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol =
     <undef>; eol2 = <undef>; start = ^Q; stop = ^S;
     susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; flush = ^O;
     min = 1; time = 0;
     -parenb -parodd cs8 hupcl -cstopb cread clocal crtscts
     -ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr
     -icrnl -ixon -ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
     opost -olcuc -ocrnl -onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0
     cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0
     isig -icanon iexten -echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase
     -tostop -echoprt -echoctl echoke

I am under the impression that the hardware handshaking is controlled
by the serial driver and the UART, but I could be wrong. I have looked
at the serial driver and there are two functions throttle and
unthrottle which toggle CTS, but I can't figure out how or who calls
them. Does my application need to get involved in the hardware
handshaking? I looked at tcflow(), but is seems to send ^S and ^Q
characters for software handshaking.

Has anyone experience this? Any information is greatly appreciated!

--
o
Angel
"Those who are possessed by nothing possess everything."




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From: Peter Bloomfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing New Setserial and Serial driver
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:53:27 -0400

Dolban using Netcom wrote:

> Newbie here.
>
> I am trying to install the newest (2.17) setserial and the newest serial
> driver (4.92) in my Redhat 6.2 Linux.
>
> How do I recompile it and then install it.
>
> Thank you very much

See http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/linux/serial/



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From: Marek Futrega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel detects only 64mb out of 128mb -- why?
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:47:45 +0200


Hi,

I've kernel-2.2.14-5 and shuttle av11 with 128mb memory but kernel detects
only 64mb out of it..  win95/98/2000 detects 128mb without problems.

Is something wrong with shuttle av11 or kernel?
And how can I have all the 128mb memory detected by kernel?


M.

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:55:57 -0400
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dell OptiPlex GX110 - Video NOT supported

Hi, everybody. I used to have a Dell Dimension, to which I installed
RedHat Linux 5.2. It ran GREAT (except the sound, but I had trouble
getting that to work in windows). Anyway, I got a Dell OptiPlex GX110,
it has an Intel 810e Chipset Graphics Card (DC133 FSB133). Anyway, I
tried putting the RedHat 5.2 on there, but it wouldn't recognize the the
NIC or the Graphics card. So, I got Mandrake 7.0. That recognized the
NIC just fine, but I'm currently running with like 16 colors and like
320x200 resolution and such. Anyone know how to get Linux to work with
my card?

Scott Zielinski


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