Linux-Hardware Digest #181, Volume #13 Wed, 5 Jul 00 17:13:06 EDT
Contents:
STB2 - TV Sound Workaround ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: linux and USB (blowfish)
Adding HD - copying linux over to new (Jeffrey M Wolfe)
Re: dual cpu motherboard for Red Hat Linux 6.2 on X86 cpu ("Ctrl-Alt-Del")
Re: Modem Installation Problem (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW? (Andrey Vlasov)
Re: Drivers for vortex2 cards (NikosKalogridis)
Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW? (smp root)
Warning: unable to open initial console (Roelof Knibbe)
Re: Need soundcard suggestion. (Ian Stirling)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: STB2 - TV Sound Workaround
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:30:56 GMT
I have been fighting with getting sound from my STB card, for ages. It
still isn't working "right," but it is working via the following kludge:
1. Boot Windows98 and start the TV application
2. Loadlin to Linux
Note: TV and TV sound work here, but interestingly, the reported IRQ and
memory are different -- i.e. on a reboot (next step) the IRQ agrees with the
IRQ (9) reported by the PCI bus init from the BIOS. Note the memory address
is also different. The function of the TV and sound is no different between
the boots -- but it is an interesting effect. The reported gpio information
(insmod bttv verbose=2) is the same, for all boots.
bttv0: Brooktree Bt878 (rev 2) bus: 0, devfn: 160, irq: 11, memory:
0x10002000. bttv0: gpio: out_enable=0x0, data=0xffffff, in=0x0
I could stop here, and run with TV, sound and all. But I prefer to be able
to boot directly into Linux from LILO - and I want to understand how to make
the TV sound work via changes to bttv.c, tda985x.c, or wherever changes need
to be made. I am no C programmer, and the information in Sound-FAQ, while
interesting, does not guide me in bit-fiddling. If somebody could give me a
"cookie-cutter" set of instructions it would be very much appreciated.
3. ctl-alt-del (shutdown -r now)
Sound stops during the reboot process, because the alsasound driver
(ES18xx) is disabled. Sound resumes when the alsasound modules are loaded
from rc.local. I am able to view the TV, and the sound changes following the
channel changes, all correct. The facilities that are not working are the
mute from xawtv menu, and muting while changing TV channels.
The complete report from dmesg, and the relevant portions of rc.local are
reproduced below. I am using the bttv.c from the 2.4.0-test2 kernel, not
from bttv-0.7.21. The kernel version of bttv.c has more cards represented,
and picks up the STB2 card.
FWIW, I also tried the Windows utility, bt848are.exe, but this utility will
not deal with the BT878 hardware. Even if it did, and reported the
registers, I would not know how to convert that information into the relevant
sections of bttv.c.
I notice that the TDA7432 chip is also located by the bttv probe, but if I
'insmod tda7432,' the muted TV sound is never unmuted. This makes sense,
because while I can get TV sound, and can manipulate its level via a separate
mixer utility, audio muting by xawtv (v2.46 or v3.09) does not work. I take
it that this indicates that xawtv is not communicating with bttv (or,
probably, bttv is not communicating with the sound chip - be it tda9850 or
tda7432).
The PCI init routine (via BIOS) indicates this information for the
multimedia devices, both reported on IRQ 9, and both from the same device. I
don't know if this information is relevant, but I am including it in case it
is . . .
Function 0 Device ID 036E (not sure what this is, radio maybe?)
Function 1 Device ID 0878 (I assume this is the BT878 TV)
The TV tuner card itself is marked with the following particulars
STB 210-0337-00X
1X0-0660-301
18 47/1998 P2-T1
Various chips and their markings:
Bt878KHF
25878-12
C40289.7
9830
KOREA
TDA7432D
1990F9841
MALAYSIA
TEA6420
ZP92Q9722
KOREA
TDA9850T
445160
DSD98101 Y
Boot messages (dmesg) ===================== Linux version 2.4.0-test2
(root@involute) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2
release)) #13 Tue Jul 4 18:35:24 EDT 2000 BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
e820: 000000000009fc00 @ 0000000000000000 (usable) e820: 0000000000000400 @
000000000009fc00 (usable) e820: 0000000000010000 @ 00000000000f0000
(reserved) e820: 0000000000010000 @ 00000000ffff0000 (reserved) e820:
000000000bf00000 @ 0000000000100000 (usable) On node 0 totalpages: 49152
zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 45056 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Kernel command
line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=303 parport=0x378,7 Initializing CPU#0
Detected 233865870 Hz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 100x30 Calibrating
delay loop... 466.94 BogoMIPS Memory: 190676k/196608k available (1570k kernel
code, 5544k reserved, 111k data, 184k init, 0k highmem) Dentry-cache hash
table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table
entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 65536
(order: 6, 262144 bytes) kmem_create: Poisoning requested, but con given -
bdev_cache Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
kmem_create: Poisoning requested, but con given - inode_cache CPU: L1 I
Cache: 32K L1 D Cache: 32K (32 bytes/line) CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia
extensions stepping 02 Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception
16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance
testing by UNIFIX PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7000] at 00:07.0 Limiting direct PCI/PCI
transfers. Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.3 Based upon Swansea University Computer
Society NET3.039 kmem_create: Poisoning requested, but con given -
skbuff_head_cache NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. NET4:
Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP IP: routing cache
hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established
16384 bind 16384) Initializing RT netlink socket Starting kswapd v1.6
parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP] pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). loop: registered device at major 7
loop: enabling 8 loop devices Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision:
6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 PIIX4: chipset revision
1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at
0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at
0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio hda: WDC AC28400R, ATA DISK
drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 hda: 16514064 sectors (8455 MB)
w/512KiB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63, (U)DMA Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 > Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is 1.2M FDC 0
is a post-1991 82077 (scsi0) <Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI host adapter> found at
PCI 0/14/0 (scsi0) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs (scsi0) Cables
present (Int-50 YES, Ext-50 NO) (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 415
instructions downloaded scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast
SCSI) 5.2.1/5.2.0 <Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI host adapter> scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: MICROTEK Model: ScanMakerIIsp Rev: 2.50 Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI
revision: 05 Detected scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0, type
6 (scsi0:0:4:0) Synchronous at 5.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 8. Vendor: SONY Model:
SDT-5000 Rev: 3.02 Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0 (scsi0:0:6:0)
Synchronous at 8.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 15. Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW4416S
Rev: 1.0h Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at
scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 scsi : detected 1 SCSI tape 1 SCSI cdrom total.
st: bufsize 32768, wrt 30720, max init. buffers 4, s/g segs 16. sr0:
scsi3-mmc drive: 16x/16x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Uniform CD-ROM
driver Revision: 3.11 Serial driver version 5.01 (2000-05-29) with MANY_PORTS
SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at
0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A PPP generic driver version 2.4.1 PPP Deflate
Compression module registered 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.7 loaded eth0:
RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet board found at 0xe1000000, IRQ 10 eth0: Chip
is 'RTL-8139B' eth0: MAC address 00:b0:4c:39:1a:78. ip_conntrack (1536
buckets, 12288 max) VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing
unused kernel memory: 184k freed Adding Swap: 65484k swap-space (priority -1)
Linux video capture interface: v1.00 i2c-core.o: i2c core module
i2c-algo-bit.o: i2c bit algorithm module i2c-core.o: driver i2c TV tuner
driver registered. bttv: driver version 0.7.31 loaded bttv: using 2 buffers
with 2080k (4160k total) for capture bttv: Bt8xx card found (0). bttv0:
Brooktree Bt878 (rev 2) bus: 0, devfn: 160, irq: 9, memory: 0xe1002000.
bttv0: gpio: out_enable=0x0, data=0xffffff, in=0x0 tuner: chip found @ 0x63
bttv0: i2c attach [Philips PAL] i2c-core.o: client [Philips PAL] registered
to adapter [bt848 #0](pos. 0). i2c-core.o: adapter bt848 #0 registered as
adapter 0. bttv0: i2c: checking for eeprom @ 0xa0... found bttv0: dump eeprom
@ 0xa0 00: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 10: ff ff ff ff
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 20: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
ff ff ff ff 30: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 40: ff ff
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 50: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
ff ff ff ff ff ff 60: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 70:
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 26 36 10 b4 80: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 90: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
a0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff b0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff c0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
ff d0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff e0: ff ff ff ff ff
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff f0: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 26
36 10 b4 bttv0: id: STB TV PCI FM, P/N 6000704 (0x263610b4) bttv0: =>
card=40 (STB2) bttv0: model: BT878(STB2) bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA8425 @
0x82... not found bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9840 @ 0x84... not found bttv0:
i2c: checking for TDA985x @ 0xb6... found bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @
0xb0... not found bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... found
i2c-core.o: driver i2c tda985x driver registered. tda985x: Using tda9850
options tda985x: init bttv0: i2c attach [TDA985x] i2c-core.o: client
[TDA985x] registered to adapter [bt848 #0](pos. 1). isapnp: Scanning for Pnp
cards... isapnp: Card 'ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive' isapnp: 1 Plug &
Play card detected total
======================
#!/bin/sh
# /etc/rc.d/rc.local
################################################
# The below are television tuner related modules for kernel 2.2.10
# /sbin/insmod videodev
# /sbin/insmod i2c verbose=1 scan=1 i2c_debug=0
# /sbin/insmod tuner debug=0 type=5
# /sbin/insmod bttv
################################################
# The below are television tuner related modules for kernel 2.4.0
/sbin/insmod videodev
/sbin/insmod i2c-core
/sbin/insmod i2c-algo-bit
/sbin/insmod tuner debug=0 type=5
/sbin/insmod bttv radio=1 verbose=2
/sbin/insmod tda985x chip=9850
# /sbin/insmod tda7432 #causes 'permanent' mute
################################################
# alsasound startup
# /sbin/insmod soundcore
/sbin/insmod isa-pnp
/sbin/insmod snd
/sbin/insmod snd-mixer
/sbin/insmod snd-timer
/sbin/insmod snd-pcm
/sbin/insmod snd-seq-device
/sbin/insmod snd-rawmidi
/sbin/insmod snd-hwdep
/sbin/insmod snd-opl3
/sbin/insmod snd-mpu401-uart
/sbin/insmod snd-es18xx
/sbin/insmod snd-card-es18xx
/usr/bin/amixer set CD 4 #this is where the TV card is plugged in
/usr/bin/amixer set FM 8 /usr/bin/amixer set Line 8 /usr/bin/amixer set PCM
10 /usr/bin/amixer set MIC capture 15 /usr/bin/amixer set 'Input Gain' 15
/usr/bin/amixer set Master unmute 40
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux and USB
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:40:53 -0700
"Kenneth R�rvik" wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Lodge) wrote in
> <1E75F05A6AEFD311BF80009027784EB2017CDC@EARTH>:
>
> >Can someone please tell me, the latest status of USB support for Linux,
> >or point me in a direction where I can find out.
>
> www.linux-usb.org :)
>
SuSE 6.4, FreeBSD4.x and I think some other BSD have USB
keybroad, mice, or maybe more, supports builtin.
Alex Lam.
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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:40:49 -0400
From: Jeffrey M Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adding HD - copying linux over to new
I replacing a small 1.2gb drive with a larger 10gb on a Mandrake 7.0
system. Question I have is this: The only thing on the 1.2gb drive is
the /boot partition (and a bogus /other directory). Can I just install
the 10gb temporarily as a 3rd ide drive, format and create file system,
and then just copy the /boot partition over? At shutdown, take the 1.2
out and just replace it with the 10gb? Is life that simple? After I get
the drive installed, I would like to move the /home and perhaps a few
other dir's over to the new space. Any precautions to keep in mind?
I've seen a written document covering this type of operation before but
for the life of me I can't seem to locate it now. Assistance would be
greatly appreciated.
Ciao!
Jeff
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From: "Ctrl-Alt-Del" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual cpu motherboard for Red Hat Linux 6.2 on X86 cpu
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:00:12 +0100
I thought power management didn't work under SMP anyway, regardless of the
mobo - you can't even auto-power-off when you shutdown!
"lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 02 Jul 2000 04:35:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal
> Burgiss) wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 02 Jul 2000 04:17:29 GMT, chad pauli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>
> >>Any one running red hat linux 6.2 in a dual system? IS there any
> >>special verson of red hat 6.2 that must be used for the dual cpu
> >>config?
> >>
> >
> >BP6 with 6.2. RH6.x comes with stock SMP kernels, and normally the
> >installation detects this OK and defaults to the right one. But I prefer
> >to do my own kernels, so never used RH's much. I'm sure they are OK with
> >Alan Cox, etc on the payroll. Other than the kernel, I can't think of
> >anything else that requires a special SMP config.
>
> Disabling power management is also recommended.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Modem Installation Problem
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:35:25 GMT
"Mohd Hamidi Mohd Nor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Deslack <omark@!NOSPAM!bitsmart.com> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Mine also. Using RH6.2 but artnet external modem 56kbps connecting to 9
>> pin
>> > serial com port. This modem support linux and even have manual on
>> > installation with RH Linux. I have follow the instructions but linux
>still
>> > can't detect my modem. Why???? Anybody.....help.
>> >
>>
>> There's no such thing as 'linux detects modems'. You have to configure it
>> yourself. If you are using an external modem, this should be pretty easy
>to
>> resolve. BTW, please include the details of the problem, error messages,
>the
>> COM port your modem is plugged on, your OS distro and version.
>>
>> (d)
>I tried to configure myself but the error still appear. Ok....I connected
>the modem to com1 and using Gnome RH6.2. One error message come when I try
>to connect to internet. The message is "Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Input/output
>error. ERROR: Unable to initialize modem."
The first thing to check is whether the driver for the serial ports
has been loaded at all. "dmesg" would show you this.
>The second error message when I try to configure it manually. I checked the
>com port using the command statserial /dev/cua0.
Wrong port. cua* devices have been obsolete for years, and are
discontinued nowadays. Use the appropriate ttyS* devices solely.
>Error message appeared was
>"statserial: TIOCMGET failed: Input/output error." Ihave tried for all com
>port. Still the same error msg. Could anybody help please.
setserial -b /dev/ttyS0
or
setserial -b /dev/ttyS1
Then use minicom on the port and check whether you can send/receive
data to/from the modem. And check your cables if it fails.
Note: If setserial fails, then either you haven't loaded a serial
driver or your ports are not enabled in your BIOS. Check the BIOS
settings and set PNP-OS to NO/Disabled.
Michael
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.verilog
Subject: Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:23:49 -0700
Hi Steven,
Just saw your post and decided to add some info about Rambus. Rambus do not
give you better performance. Go to http://www.tomshardware.com and check
his article about Rambus. The test shows that you spend good money for
nothing. Tomshardware did test of old Intel440BX chipset in overclocked
mode and found that it beat many new systems. Intel has some problems with
new motherboards and make replacement for them because problem with Rambus.
Chech there article about AMD Tunderbird CPU and Intel i815 chipset which
show good benchmarks.
Andrey
Steven Leung wrote:
> Now that Pentium w/ 1GHz+ chips are available, using PCs with Linux to
> run [selected] EDA applications suddenly becomes an irresistible
> alternative. Anyone can share their experiences in this area?
> Specifically,
> Which vendor has better 1GHz machine?
> What's the advantage of Rambus memory compared with, say, SDRAM with
> 133MHz bus?
> Any machine can provide more than 1G physical memory (2G is
> preferred)?
> How easy/difficult is the setup? Any unexpected difficulties?
> Are any of those Linux service providers of any usage?
> Any benchmark numbers?
>
> Steven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NikosKalogridis)
Subject: Re: Drivers for vortex2 cards
Date: 05 Jul 2000 20:38:50 GMT
try linux.aureal.com ;-)
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Subject: Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW?
From: smp root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.verilog
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:37:09 -0700
first things first - it is unreasonable (to say the least.., and
with all respect to Tom's Hardware) to benchmark an overclocked
chipset against an "unoverclocked" one... anyone can see that.
secondly, the 440 chipsets are OLD. very OLD in computer terms.
i would struggle to recommend 3 or 4 year old technology to
someone after performance critical kit...
thirdly the problems with the 820 mobos (since i assume you mean
those) were not RAMBUS problems, the problem arose when using the
820 chipset with SDRAM thru the famous Memory Translator Hub
(MTH) a quick visit to www.intel.com will tell you a lot more
about all that. my board is 820 and running RAMBUS as sweet as a
dream...
all that said i agree that if you're looking for 1 gig or 2 gig
of RAM, the price of RAMBUS will ruin you, and the performance
probably isn't worth it. i'm running a bi-processor setup on
256MB of RAMBUS, and the larger bandwidth is good on an SMP
system, but 2GB of the stuff would cost a fortune.
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From: Roelof Knibbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Warning: unable to open initial console
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 22:59:14 +0200
HELP!
The other day my system crashed, so I could'nt shutdown properly.
Linux has'nt come back since. I use RedHat 6.0, with LILO dual boot.
It used to work fine.
I've tried several LILO options like:
linux single
linux root=....
linux /bin/sh
These options all produce the same error. I do not get a kernel panic
error.
It says:
....
VMS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly
Freeing unused kernel memory: 60 k freed
Warning: unable to open an initial console.
I can boot with a rescue image. The other suggestion I found was to use
mknod (forgot the rest of the command). This didn't work either, it
coud'nt
find dev/tty1. I can mount the root however (dev/hdb1) or perform
e2fsck.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Thanx
Roelof
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From: Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need soundcard suggestion.
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 21:04:48 GMT
leegold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>you need a power amp to drive speakers. I don't think a blaster card will
>drive conventional speakers.
<snip quoted message improperly placed at bottom>
Course it will.
At the moment, I'm listening to Kylie Minogue's latest hit directly
from an AWE 32, through my TV card (I've lost my remote control).
At full volume (before distortion), it's uncomfortably loud, even when
I'm listening to something loud, it never gets turned up all the way,
other than for stress tests.
If you have very inefficiant speakers, or a large room, or a card with
less output than mine, or are one of those people that you can hear
their earphones from 10m away, things may differ.
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