Linux-Hardware Digest #212, Volume #13 Tue, 11 Jul 00 04:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: IBM PC Server 300? ("Bill Crocker")
SCSI devices - Hot removal? (Elliot)
Re: Request for comments on system specs... (X)
Re: D-Link DFE-530TX network card (Paul E. Larson)
Re: Request for comments on system specs... (X)
Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW? (neko)
Re: 16 bit computer (hac)
linux: 'insmod sr_mod': no module by that name found (Carlos Villegas)
linux:Unresolved symbol using 'insmod sg' (Carlos Villegas)
Tyan Tiger133 ? ("Lawrence C. W. Tai")
Re: CD's play but there is no sound ("Ian & Deloris Tindale")
Re: CPU temperature (hac)
Re: ELSA GeForce 2 GTS/XConfigurator/AGP (Jim Broughton)
Re: D-Link DFE-530TX network card (Jim Conner)
External Modem Problem ("Wayne M. Syvinski")
Help needed for Brother Printer ("Wayne M. Syvinski")
Re: HP DeskJet 1220C/PS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: linux: 'insmod sr_mod': no module by that name found (Zoran Cutura)
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From: "Bill Crocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM PC Server 300?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:38:03 GMT
Thanks for the advice! I did pull the 1-GIG SCSI HD today, and replaced it
with a 9-GIG, so I'm in good shape there! I also have another 64-MEG of
parity RAM on the way from an Ebay purchase.
Are you saying I can do anything, run anything, from the command prompt, and
not use a GUI ever? Being an old DOS use, and having "some" UNIX
experience, that would be ok with me! Are their some apps that require
being launched from a GUI, like in Windows, or no?
Thanks again,
Bill Crocker
"mindglow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8kc3t3$987$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Heya Bill,
>
> firstly, welcome to Linux!
>
> secondly why do you want X? A gui _really_ isn't a must-have, it's just
> something that is 'posed to look nice and eat lots of resources.
>
> If I were you, and you did say you wanted to learn Linux, I'd make a
> machine that I could mail to, http to, ftp to and _especially_ telnet
> to. Did you say you wanted to use the SuSe distro? SuSe is pretty big,
> and includes lots of stuff you really don't need, therefore the total
> install will indeed need lots of space. The answer is dont install all
> of it!
>
> Just get a base system up and networked and gradually add components to
> enhance it. You have what looks to be someone's old cdrom-server and you
> could configure it to do the same for you! Also I'd think about trading
> in a cdrom or two for an extra harddrive. Over here in the Netherlands
> there are many shops that sell older or used components at good prices
> so I guess the same applies to where you're at. Try www.scsistuff.com if
> you're in the usa.
>
> A good tip would be : read the 'HOWTO' collection. Try www.linux.org.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -mindglow
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From: Elliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI devices - Hot removal?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 05:30:03 GMT
Hi,
This is something I should know but don't. Is it possible to remove a
device from the SCSI chain without shutting down the system? If so, do you
have to inform the OS that you have done it?
Elliot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (X)
Subject: Re: Request for comments on system specs...
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:03:34 GMT
Reply-To: nowhere
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 16:54:46 -0400, Kenaniah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I have to agree with the VIA boards. One of our employee's home machine has a
>VIA chipset, and he has nothing but problems with his mainboard. I personally
>like the Pentium line, and SuperMicro Mobos. But that's personal. Otherwise, I
>would say your choices are sound.
>
The problem is, Intel (as you might imagine), doesn't write chipsets
for AMD-based systems. VIA is going to be as good as it gets. The
only other solution would be to get a mainboard with the older AMD
chipset, which has fewer options, and doesn't support the faster
processors.
I have read alot of good things about Athlon mainboards with VIA
chipsets. I am more concerned with the brand of the mainboard, not
the chipset. ASUS makes a good (although pricey) mainboard. From
what I have read, the ASUS mainboard is the most stable, and should do
nicely.
We shall see. I have ordered the system. Hopefully, by this Friday,
I'll be rocking and rolling with 950 MHz!
Thanks for the comments.
Michael
>Mark
>
>Chris Harshman wrote:
>
>> YMMV, but I've *always* had issues (serious issues) with machines running
>> VIA chipsets, including Pentium IIIs running on VIA boards. Also, VIA
>> chipsets in the past have not gotten along AT ALL with my SoundBlaster Live!
>> Value (http://paradigm.uor.edu/~harshman/soundblaster); I left those boards
>> behind for motherboards built on the Intel i440BX chipset, and have never
>> looked back, so I don't know if the situation was ever resolved. (I do know
>> that the i440BX is still regarded as a godsend for its stability and
>> compatibility, especially among the rec.video.desktop crowd, which is always
>> stressing the limits of their hardware.) Finally, be careful with the eepro
>> cards (Intel); we've seen TX_TIMEOUT errors on them that have yet to be
>> resolved. http://www.tux.org/hypermail/linux-eepro100/2000-Jun/0005.html
>> We ended up going with cards that use the DEC (now Intel) Tulip chipset, not
>> clones (Kingston, and others).
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> > Processor: AMD Athlon 950 MHz
>> > Mainboard: ASUS K7V
>> > Memory: 256 MB PC133 SDRAM
>> > Video: Matrox G400 32 MB Dual-Head version
>> > Soundcard: Soundblaster Live! Value
>> > Network Card: Intel Pro/100+ PCI
>> > Hard Drive: Western Digital 10+ GB drive with UDMA 66
>> > CD-ROM: Generic 32X CD-ROM player
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul E. Larson)
Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX network card
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:05:51 GMT
In article <cXwa5.83$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dennis Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Just wondering if anyone out there has had any luck with the D-Link
>DFE-530TX+ network card on SuSE Linux or Linux in general.
http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/net/0002.0/0054.html
and
the D-Link website.
Paul
--
"Mr. Rusk you not wearing your tie."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (X)
Subject: Re: Request for comments on system specs...
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:15:26 GMT
Reply-To: nowhere
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:03:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Ancipital) wrote:
>
>FWIW, I have an Asus K7V and a K7M (work and home), both with eepro100
>and sblive, and both work flawlessly.
>
>
>Ancipital- Inedible Buddhas reality control #1
>http://www.buddhas.org is currently tqt- back soon.
>
This is good to hear. How fast is your processor and how much RAM do
you have?
Do you like your K7V or K7M more? Myself, I'll go for the ATX
everytime (the K7M is a microATX, right?).
The only thing that bothers me is that there are no ISA slots for a
modem, if I need it later. I saw a USR PCI 56K modem that was *not* a
WinModem (that was in different box, next to it). Are these true
modems that are PCI rather than ISA?
I guess if I really need it, I could just go external.
Oh well.
Thanks for the comments,
Michael
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From: neko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.verilog
Subject: Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 05:57:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steven Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now that Pentium w/ 1GHz+ chips are available, using PCs with Linux to
> run [selected] EDA applications suddenly becomes an irresistible
> alternative. Anyone can share their experiences in this area?
I don't know how many of you are interested in this ...
I have a Sun machine (Solaris 7) as my primary environment.
Since my machine is Sun Sparc5 (160MHz), newer PC is much much faster.
But I don't want to use both Solaris and Linux as working environment.
(Personally, I prefer Solaris over Linux.)
To solve this problem, I installed lxrun on PC (on top of Solaris/x86).
This way I can use Linux based EDA tool while I stay in Solaris
environment.
My Verilog simulator (floating license) supports both interpreter and
compiler mode on either Solaris/Sun or Linux/PC.
I usually use interpreter mode on Sun/Solaris to debug my code.
Once the code is settled and if I need speed then I will run the
simulation on PC.
Even my PC is just AMD K6/III 450MHz, the speed difference is ...
amazing. (I'm planning to buy a 1GHz PC when it becomes sub-$1000.)
Again, the reason why I did this is I wanted to keep homogeneous
environment.
If your primary environment is Linux/PC, this info is no use.
Aki-
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Before you buy.
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From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 16 bit computer
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:11:06 GMT
"David C." wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:
> >
> > The intel series is kind of amusing in that they've maintained
> > backward compatibility practically since the 4004, a 4 bit traffic
> > light controller.
>
> Just to pick a nit here, the 4004 was designed to be the core of a
> desktop calculator. Other uses came later, when the Japanese calculator
> company (whose name escapes me right now) released Intel from their
> exclusive contract.
>
> For more info, see the book "Fire In The Valley".
>
> > (4004->8008->8080; 8086/8088 can take 8 bit assembly code recompiled
> > -> 80286 -> 80386 )
>
> Uh huh. Have you done this? Didn't think so.
>
"8086/8088 SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE
...CONV86 converter for conversion of 8080/8085 assembly language
source code to 8086/8088 assembly language source..."
"The package permits 8080/8085 users to efficiently convert existing
programs into 8086/8088 object code from either 8080/8085 assembly
language source code or PL/M source code."
Page B-153, "The 8086 Family User's Manual", October 1979 Edition.
--
Howard Christeller Irvine, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Carlos Villegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: linux: 'insmod sr_mod': no module by that name found
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:44:43 GMT
My goal is to have the 'sr_mod module' load automatically.
As root I typed: 'insmod sr_mod'
And I got this:
insmod: sr_mod: no module by that name found
How can I get the sr_mod module to load automatically given the above
obsticle?
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-- Carlos Villegas
-- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Carlos Villegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: linux:Unresolved symbol using 'insmod sg'
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:19:36 GMT
My goal is to have the 'sg module' load automatically.
As root I typed: 'insmod sg'
And I got this:
Using /lib/modules/2.2.14/scsi/sg.o
/lib/modules/2.2.14/scsi/sg.o: unresolved symbol
is_reg_chrdev
How can I get the sg module to load automatically given the above
obsticle?
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-- Carlos Villegas
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From: "Lawrence C. W. Tai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tyan Tiger133 ?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:09:21 +0800
Hello!
Is the new Tyan Tiger133 dual-PIII motherboard good for linux? It's seem
not expensive.
Any other suggestions for Dual-PIII system?
Lawrence.
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From: "Ian & Deloris Tindale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD's play but there is no sound
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:41:37 +0100
My CD plays but gives no sound - but I know why that is. Im my case, I've
not yet got around to connecting an audio connector lead from the back of
the CD drive to the connector on my AWE64 sound card. Maybe later...
Ian Tindale
"Duane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Just to verify the basic stuff. Did you open an audio mixer panel and
> set the CD and master controls (and try all the others too - sometimes
> it is a different one from the CD control).
>
> tamirh wrote:
> >
> > > I've seen the same problem. I'm running a RH6.0 distribution
> > (with
> > kernel upgraded to 2.2.13 and ESS sound support compiled
> > in) and a Win
> > 98 installation dual boot. CDs and sounds (WAVs,
> > MP3s, etc) play fine
> > through the speakers under Win98. Under
> > RH6.0, sound samples play
> > correctly. However, using the GNOME CD
> > player, the CD spins, but no
> > music through the speakers. I
> > don't think I've tried the headset
> > jack, though.
> >
> > Win98 probably uses the CD-Rom's DAO to extract the information
> > digitally, while GNOME uses the old-fashioned analogue Audio Out
> > on the back of the CD-Rom (which needs to be connected to the
> > sound card).
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.
> > Up to 100 minutes free!
> > http://www.keen.com
>
> --
> My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPU temperature
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:39:04 GMT
Alex wrote:
>
> A side note, the outer case cover has been removed a few days ago. Removing
> the outer case doesn't seems to help much.
>
Removing the cover should make it worse, not better. The fans aren't
there just to stir the air around, they're supposed to move the air
through the case. A properly designed case has the fans and vents
positioned to direct the airflow.
I have a Supermicro SC-750A case that works well. The power supply
fan blows out, and there is another fan blowing out just above it.
They pull air in through the front and side vents, and out the back.
It works. The side vents are towards the front, next to the 5.25"
bays. Between the space provided by a wider than usual design, and
the side vents, the disk drives stay cool without any additional
fans. But there are places to mount them.
Everything runs much cooler than in my old AT style tower.
Unobstructed, direct airflow makes a big difference. You will
probably keep the case longer than anything you put in it, so spend a
little more money for a good case.
In an ideal world, you would pull air in through filters, and run the
case at a positive pressure. Far better to blow clean air out the
floppy drive, CD-ROM, switches, and other openings than to pull dust
in through those openings. But people forget to change the filters,
so most systems use exhaust fans and no filters. Oh well.
--
Howard Christeller Irvine, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ELSA GeForce 2 GTS/XConfigurator/AGP
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:47:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Olivier wrote:
>
> I have an NVDIA chipset based called GeForce 2 GTS sitting
> in my AGP slot.
>
> 1) I have tried making this card work using XFree
> 4.0.1/Xconfigurator.
>
> 2) I have also downloaded and installed the NVIDIA linux
> drivers.
>
> To no avail. Has anyone successfully made this work?
>
> * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web
>Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
You must not have followed the instructions to the letter in the Nvidia
installation instructions. I have xfree86 4.0 up and working with
a creative labs gforce 2 gts. I previously had a tnt2 in the system
that worked as well with the Nvidia drivers took the tnt2 out put the
Gforce 2 in and it worked right off the bat no configuring no messing
with the drivers. It is VERY VERY important that you follow Nvidia's
installation intructions. Especitialy the part about removeing all
traces
of MESA-opengl clone.
JIM
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From: Jim Conner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX network card
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:53:26 GMT
I'm currently using the DFE-530TX+ without any problems. It uses the RTL8139
module. Make sure that you have it to compile as a module in your kernel and
load the module. It should work. Caldera eDesktop 2.4 autodetected it and set
mine up.
Jim
Dennis Peacock wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone out there has had any luck with the D-Link
> DFE-530TX+ network card on SuSE Linux or Linux in general. I have tried a
> Linksys card and now a new D-Link card without success. YAST2 never sees
> the card and when I do a lspci it reports that it sees the ethernet card. I
> downloaded the netdriver.spec via RPM and ran the gammot with that until I
> got no errors. I still am unable to get a link light on the card. Any
> suggestions or steps that I am missing. This is SuSE Linux with kernel
> 2.2.14 running on a Pentium 200 with 64MB RAM and a 10GB WD hard drive
> (IDE).
>
> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Dennis
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From: "Wayne M. Syvinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: External Modem Problem
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:03:09 -0500
I have a Creative ModemBlaster Flash56 II (DE5620-3) external modem. It
worked fine with my previous configuration, but now I can't get Linux to
acknowledge the modem (kppp keeps saying "Modem is busy" on EVERY device I
try i.e. /dev/ttyS0, /dev/cua0, etc.).
Previous config:
Linux-Mandrake 6.5
eMachines etower 400i (400 MHz Celeron processor)
256M RAM
Current config:
Linux-Mandrake 7.1
Hewlett-Packard Pavilion 8655C (533 MHz Pentium III processor)
256M RAM
This computer also has an internal modem linked to the sound card
(grrrr...), and removing the modem disables the sound, so I have to keep it
in there.
I'm no hardware expert, but one of the most striking things I noticed about
the Pavilion was that there are no ISA slots. Could this have something to
do with the failure of Linux to correctly detect the modem?
Thanks for any help you can provide...
Wayne Syvinski
confused Linux user
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From: "Wayne M. Syvinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help needed for Brother Printer
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:05:20 -0500
I have a Brother MFC-8300 (multifunction fax/printer/copier). I can't get
it to work with Linux-Mandrake 7.1 using either a parallel or USB
connection, and none of the printer drivers I've tried work. I can't even
get gibberish to print!
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Wayne Syvinski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HP DeskJet 1220C/PS
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:53:53 -0400
Grant Taylor wrote:
---
> So just last night someone mailed me with the tip that this "PS"
> printer is in fact just the same PCL3 device with Adobe PressReady
> bundled. AFAIK, this is the first time HP has sold a "Postscript"
> printer with a software ps implementation.
---
I kid you not that just this Friday I discovered the HP DeskJet
1220C/PS and went out looking for it on Saturday. I wanted to buy
either it or the Lexmark Optra Color 45 because those were the two
printers I had decided on. (They both, I thought, supported
Postscript.)
I guess I'm lucky I couldn't find the HP printer at any of the
stores I visited! I would have been furious if, after spending all
that money, I got the printer and found it wasn't Postscript in the
hardware.
Looking at HP's specification web page for this printer,
<http://www.pandi.hp.com/pandi-db/prodinfo.product_specs?product=deskjet1220c>,
I see *nothing* that would indicate this is Postscript in software
only. I'm going to write to HP at their feedback hpshopping.com
feedback page asking them about this. I'll summarize any response I
get to this newsgroup.
--
Bernie Hoefer
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1EA6 025D 9DFB 224E 69D4 CE0E 7241 A6A9 446A 6F93.
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From: Zoran Cutura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: linux: 'insmod sr_mod': no module by that name found
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:05:44 +0200
Carlos Villegas wrote:
>
> My goal is to have the 'sr_mod module' load automatically.
>
> As root I typed: 'insmod sr_mod'
> And I got this:
> insmod: sr_mod: no module by that name found
>
> How can I get the sr_mod module to load automatically given the above
> obsticle?
>
> --------------------------------------
> -- Carlos Villegas
> -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --------------------------------------
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Hello Carlos,
automatical loading of modules is done by the kernels
autoload function which needs to be compiled in. But also
your post shows that the module is not available for
loading. This indicaters that there is no file called
sr_mod in the /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc path (this path
is an example an must vary for other kernelversions
or modules that don't reseed in the misc directory.)
Where is this modul from? If it is in the standard kernel
simply construct a new kernel (look up the web for how
to do this, and read the manual of your distribution.)
and don't forget to type make modules modules_install.
Hope this is of any help.
Z
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will have when you finally get it; that experience will make you a
better programmer for the rest of your days. Eric S. Raymond
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