Linux-Hardware Digest #225, Volume #13 Thu, 13 Jul 00 00:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: After Installing Corel Linux I can't use my keyboard ("KASI")
Re: Athlon Motherboards (Michael Meding)
Re: Voodoo or TNT? (Michael Meding)
A question about a hard drive and RAM upgrade. (Madhusudan Singh)
Re: IDE/ATAPI CD Writers - Aaagh! (E J)
Re: A question about a hard drive and RAM upgrade. ("Philo")
Re: Linux home server: Clean-slate hardware plan? (Steffen Kluge)
Re: Is this a good machine for the money? (David Steuber)
Re: Is this a good machine for the money? (David Steuber)
1U case? (Dave Paton)
Re: S3 savage4 & dri (Eric Wick)
Re: 1U case? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is this a good machine for the money? (brian moore)
Re: Linux home server: Clean-slate hardware plan? (Martin Brown)
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From: "KASI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.corel,alt.os.linux.redhat,at.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,corelsupp
Subject: Re: After Installing Corel Linux I can't use my keyboard
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:08:31 -0400
I had RH 6.0 installed and working fine on my system except for my Windows
specific HP printer.
I purchased Corel WordPerfect Office 2000 Deluxe for Linux which comes with
the Corel Linux (Debian). I have installed this version of Linux 4 times
allowing Linux to take over my second drive (6.4WD) and also setting the
partitions myself. It sets up my display at 1024x768x16 which is a little
too difficult to see on my monitor. After changing the display to an
800x600 true color display and rebooting I have the same problem. The OS
seems to be loading just fine until you get to the command prompt login and
then the screen begins flashing. I've found that if I'm quick enough to
type my login one letter at a time while I can see the display that what I
type appears on the screen as well. This is no help however because after
entering my login and password this way I am still unable to access any
functions thereafter.
If I do not change the display setting the OS will boot fine at least
several times before it fails.
I've re-installed the RedHat OS because even the 5.2 version recognizes and
correctly sets up my video card (Viper 330 NVIDIA 8 Meg) and monitor (NEC
MultiSync E500) where as the Corel (Debian) lists both of these devices as
unknown.
I realize this isn't much help to you but it does indicate the problem most
likely resides in some other component than your keyboard.
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From: Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Athlon Motherboards
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:20:22 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Francesco,
Redhat6.0 and 6.2 have worked almost out of the box with my Athlon MSI
6167. With 6.2 use the update disks. But I think this is not an athlon
problem.
6.1 is another matter.
Regards
Michael
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From: Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Voodoo or TNT?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:25:26 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Neven Boric schrieb:
>
> Can anyone recommend a 3D card for use on Linux.
> I own a Voodoo 2 and it works, but very slowly. I'm thinking about
> buying a Voodoo 3 or TNT 2, wich one is better for Linux? (better
> performance, drivers, etc)
NVidia seems to be nice with their binary only drivers. I would
personally not recommend them due to the closedness of their sourcecode.
This is a matter of taste here.
Voodoo3 is nice and fast same with G400. Both are fast in 2D and 3D. Not
top noth like geforce cards though but usable and the companies keep
supporting linux.
Please read the thread at utah-glx.sourceforge.net and then mail archive
and look for graphic card recommendation. For compatibility and 3D
drivers please see dri.sourceforge.net.
For 2D compatibility please see www.xfree86.org.
Regards
Michael
Please cc me if you have further questions since I do not follow this
group closely
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From: Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: A question about a hard drive and RAM upgrade.
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:29:40 -0400
Hi
I have a Dell Optiplex GX1 system (P-450)with 64 MB RAM and 4.3 GB hard
disk.
As was inevitable, I am feeling the need to increase both.
Now, comes the hard part : I have two partitions on my hard disk - one
for Windows 98 (for kid stuff) and one for Linux (for serious work). The
hard disk is split roughly even between the two.
If I go ahead and attach a 10 GB hard disk in addition to my 4.3 GB
hard
disk, how would I make use of it ? I mean what I want is to shift the
entire Windows OS to a portion of that hard disk, partition it, and claim
the rest of the space for Linux as well as the space vacated on the
original hard disk.
If this is possible (sounds possible to me), how do I do it ?
I expect the RAM addition - 128 MB (in addition to 64 MB I already
posess) to be relatively uncomplicated. Tell me if there are some issues
involved here.
What is the typical bill for these additions ?
Thanks in advance,
Madhusudan Singh.
PS : I would appreciate an email copy of your response.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI CD Writers - Aaagh!
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:34:53 -0700
Andrew Ellington wrote:
> I am having some trouble getting my CD writer to go. I'm a relative newbie
> so have some patience.
>
> I'm running kernel version 2.2.13-4 from a Mandrake 6.5 distribution.
> The device is a brand new HP CD-writer plus ( not sure exactly which model )
> connected in the hdd position.
> I've compiled the kernel to give the following support:
>
> Sect. Description
> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> BLOCK Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL... Y
> BLOCK IDE/ATAPI CDROM ide?cd M
> BLOCK SCSI emulation support ide?scsi M
> BLOCK Loopback device loop M
> SCSI SCSI support scsi_mod Y
> SCSI SCSI CD?ROM support sr_mod Y
> SCSI Enable vendor?specific Y
> SCSI SCSI generic support sg Y
> FS ISO 9660 CDROM filesystem iso9660 Y
> FS Microsoft Joliet cdrom... joliet Y
>
> The kernel build is producing cdrom.o rather than ide-cd.o when
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is defined and seems to be linking this in.
>
> I've tried various combinations of modifications of lilo.conf and
> conf.modules but haven't managed to get anything other than 'Cannot open
> SCSI driver' from cdrecord -scanbus.
>
> At this point I'm a bit lost as to what I'm missing here.
>
> Andrew
$ su -
password: <scret>
# cp /etc/conf.modules /etc/conf.modules.bak
# vi /etc/conf.modules
Modify conf.modules for your CDROM writer, my CDROM is located at /dev/hdc
Here is my conf.modules
alias scd0 sr_mod
alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
options ide-cd ignore=hdc
# cp /etc/rc.d/rc.local /etc/rc.d/rc.local.bak
# vi /etc/rc.d/rc.local
Put this at the end of the rc.local
# load ide-scsi module
insmod ide-scsi
# cp /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf.bak
# vi /etc/lilo.conf
put the append statement for /etc/lilo.conf your cdrom
'append="hdX=ide-scsi"' and run lilo.
Here is /etc/lilo.conf, my CDROM is located at /dev/hdc
boot=/dev/fd0
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
prompt
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-6.1.1
label=linux
root=/dev/hda4
append="hdc=ide-scsi"
read-only
# /sbin/lilo
Now relink the /dev/cdrom to your scsi emulation of your cdwriter
# mv /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom.bak
# ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom
Reboot. (I don't know how to restart with new conf.modules and rc.local
in linux :( )
Run dmesg to see if your scsi emulation is working after the reboot
# dmesg
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8100 Rev: 1.0g
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
Run cdrecord to see if you scsi emulation is working also.
# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'HP ' 'CD-Writer+ 8100 ' '1.0g' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
I hope it works for you, it works for me.
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: A question about a hard drive and RAM upgrade.
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:37:36 -0500
What you are proposing would work.
A simple solution would be to just add your new disk ...keep your operating
systems as they are...and have each make use of the new drive
...however...i would be a bit uncomfortable having two operating systems
split up over two drives.
I personally would let the kids have the ENTIRE 4.3 gig disk for Windows...
then you take the ENTIRE 10gig disk for Linux.
This way the kids can do whatever they want PLUS
Didn't you REALLY want to do a totally fresh Linux installation and correct
all those little things you wanted to improve upon?
Philo
Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
> I have a Dell Optiplex GX1 system (P-450)with 64 MB RAM and 4.3 GB hard
> disk.
>
> As was inevitable, I am feeling the need to increase both.
> Now, comes the hard part : I have two partitions on my hard disk - one
> for Windows 98 (for kid stuff) and one for Linux (for serious work). The
> hard disk is split roughly even between the two.
> If I go ahead and attach a 10 GB hard disk in addition to my 4.3 GB
> hard
> disk, how would I make use of it ? I mean what I want is to shift the
> entire Windows OS to a portion of that hard disk, partition it, and claim
> the rest of the space for Linux as well as the space vacated on the
> original hard disk.
> If this is possible (sounds possible to me), how do I do it ?
> I expect the RAM addition - 128 MB (in addition to 64 MB I already
> posess) to be relatively uncomplicated. Tell me if there are some issues
> involved here.
>
> What is the typical bill for these additions ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Madhusudan Singh.
>
> PS : I would appreciate an email copy of your response.
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: Linux home server: Clean-slate hardware plan?
Date: 13 Jul 2000 02:35:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Trygve Selmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What do you mean by catastrophic?
>- hdc: LTN403, ATAPI CDROM drive (40x)
>- hdd: WDC WD136AA, ATA DISK drive
>
>hdparm -t /dev/hdd1:
> 64 MB in 2.93 seconds = 21.84 MB/sec
Try using the CDROM drive at the same time. What data rate does
it normally give, 2-5MB/s? Now look at your hdd stats, and tell us
what you find. That's what I mean with catastrophic.
Cheers
Steffen.
--
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Is this a good machine for the money?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:00:13 GMT
"Chris Harshman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' VA builds good boxes. I've worked on them from afar, and I've recommended
' them for a major initiative we're about to launch. Some of the things they
' do to tweak the software package installed is brilliant to the point of
' "Duh!" (as in, "why didn't *I* think of that?!).
Really? I'm cusious as to what they do?
I'm looking to build or buy the VA box for use as a *cheap* server for
colocating with my ISP. I really love those *thin* rack mount units
they have, but even their modest price breaks my shoe string :-(
' $855 isn't bad. You could probably build it yourself for that much, but the
' headache factor would be considerably greater. (I lived on a Linux
' shoestring for a long time, building and rebuilding Celerons, P166MMX's,
' etc. It was fun when it was the only option. Now that I have the ability
' to simply order systems, guess what I do?)
I have a friend who says that's rather high. I've looked at
tomshardware and have seen enough formfactors and chipsets to blow my
brains out. I'm just not a hardware geek. I'm going to see if he can
actually do better. If not, it's VA for me.
--
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NRA Member | a hoploholic.
``This case serves as a dire warning to all burglars. Any citizen is
entitled to use reasonable force. A householder in his own home might
not be reasonable and that can have tragic consequences''
--- Mr Justice Owen at Tony Martin's murder trial as quoted by
http://www.norfolk-now.co.uk/
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Is this a good machine for the money?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:00:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
' tad cheaper. See http://www.aslab.com/ for some nifty machines -- you
' may like their prices better, too.)
Thanks for the link. I like their laptops. Whish I could justify
buying another.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
``This case serves as a dire warning to all burglars. Any citizen is
entitled to use reasonable force. A householder in his own home might
not be reasonable and that can have tragic consequences''
--- Mr Justice Owen at Tony Martin's murder trial as quoted by
http://www.norfolk-now.co.uk/
The ``From'' address is a valid e-mail address.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
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From: Dave Paton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware
Subject: 1U case?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:02:04 GMT
I know they're all the rage now, but I can't seem to find a 1U rackmount
chassis for my microATX skt370 mobo for a reasobnable price. Everyone
wants US$300 or more for about $20 is metalwork. I'm trying to build a
small webserver on the cheap (poor college student), and here's what I
need:
microATX mobo compatible
1x PCI slot (yep, riser card)
3x 3.5" bays (HDs & floppy...I might be able to go with 2 bays here)
1x 5.25 bay (CD)
$200ish with power supply
Is that too much to ask?
And if it is, can someone forward me the location/source for the specs
of the microATX mobos (rear panel layout and mounting hole layout) so I
can send them off to my metalworker friend to have him price (ack!) the
case out?
Thanks
-dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Eric Wick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: S3 savage4 & dri
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:34:16 +0200
Markus Poeltl wrote:
> does anybody know if this card will be supported by XFree 4.0.1 in
the > near Future
Isn't it? I'm using XFree-3.3.6 and this card runs well. The svga
server make a good job, but no 3D Support this time.
--
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http://www.hanse-net.de/eric.wick (German-Language)
Mailfilter active, no binaries over 3MBs accepted.
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Crossposted-To: comp.hardware
Subject: Re: 1U case?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:24:55 GMT
Dave Paton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I know they're all the rage now, but I can't seem to find a 1U rackmount
> chassis for my microATX skt370 mobo for a reasobnable price.
You and me both.
I was hoping to cram a dual PPro motherboard in there, though.
> Everyone wants US$300 or more for about $20 is metalwork.
Frustrating, isn't it? Problem is, it costs big bucks to make the
presses to cut the metal, and you can't buy any of the sheets in small
quantities. (I'm guessing, but I think it makes sense.)
> I'm trying to build a small webserver on the cheap (poor college
> student), and here's what I need:
Heh. Why do you want rack-mount if you're a college student? Having
gone that route, I can tell you right now you're getting into a money
pit. There's always something else...
> microATX mobo compatible
> 1x PCI slot (yep, riser card)
> 3x 3.5" bays (HDs & floppy...I might be able to go with 2 bays here)
> 1x 5.25 bay (CD)
> $200ish with power supply
> Is that too much to ask?
Yes.
I saw a 2U case (which I assume would be acceptable...?) for $189 on
eBay. I got excited, until I noticed that with all the stuff you
*have* to get (power supply, riser card, shipping) it comes to over
$300.
So even on eBay, they're selling for over $300.
> And if it is, can someone forward me the location/source for the specs
> of the microATX mobos (rear panel layout and mounting hole layout) so I
> can send them off to my metalworker friend to have him price (ack!) the
> case out?
Just bite the bullet and get a 4U case. They cost half as much and
are more fun to work in. Of course, they're also bigger, but since
the smallest (new) rack I can find is over six feet tall...
Is socket 370 for Celerons? Are they on cards like P2's and P3's? If
so, will the *CPU* fit? I mean, 1.75" isn't a lot to work with.
--
Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"Dude... my hands are huge. They can touch anything but themselves...
oh, wait."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Is this a good machine for the money?
Date: 13 Jul 2000 03:51:42 GMT
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 03:00:14 GMT,
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
>
> ' tad cheaper. See http://www.aslab.com/ for some nifty machines -- you
> ' may like their prices better, too.)
>
> Thanks for the link. I like their laptops. Whish I could justify
> buying another.
Their 1U and 2U rackmount machines are cheaper than VA's, and still
nifty (I'm waiting for approval to buy a pair of the 2U boxes). You can
do a machine for less than $2K (substantially less if you don't need
dual capability).
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Brown)
Subject: Re: Linux home server: Clean-slate hardware plan?
Date: 13 Jul 2000 03:59:47 GMT
>> ...oh yeah; I also own:
>> screwdriver; pliers; fire extinguisher; sledgehammer :-)
>
While the above ARE NEEDED for the typical Windows installation, you won't
need them for Linux. ;)
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