Linux-Hardware Digest #329, Volume #13           Mon, 31 Jul 00 10:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: A good IDE (Nix)
  Re: A good IDE (Nix)
  Re: ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000 - distortion problem (baghdady)
  Re: SMP and command-line execution ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  realtek 8029 ("alikbm")
  Re: Thunderbird ok w/ Linux? (Mark Sullivan)
  Re: Intel PRO/DSL 2100 Modem (internal-pci) drivers ? (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Mandrake 7.1 (Ron Ng)
  Re: serial modem us robotics 56k (Dances With Crows)
  Networking w/D-Link DFE-650TX (Ron Ng)
  Re: Installing my IDE CDRW (Dances With Crows)
  Diamond Supra external serial modem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  midi with sb pci128 (Massimo)
  [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Jose Manuel 
Benitez Sanchez)
  Re: Best Backup solution? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: SCSI-controller in Linux (Johan Kullstam)
  network dies when I replace hub with switch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Kenneth 
R�rvik)
  Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Kenneth 
R�rvik)
  Re: Diamond Supra external serial modem (Romek Pitera)
  Re: network dies when I replace hub with switch ("Steve Cox")

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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: A good IDE
Date: 31 Jul 2000 01:59:38 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (cLIeNUX user) writes:

> I noodled around briefly with vim's nascent IDE stuff, but even at that
> level the problem I have with such things is they very strongly tend to
> enforce a style. I'm sure emacs is great for writing gdb.

Er, the only `style' Emacs enforces is that you have to know a bit of
Lisp to customize it. Its C autoindentation --- assuming that it what
you are driving at --- is *exceedingly* customizable. There's little it
cannot do, no matter how bizarre.

While, of course, it comes with styles that make it easy to conform to
GNU coding standards (and it *is* great for writing them in ;) ) it
comes with styles for other things, and it's fairly easy to extend in
simple ways. (Extending in complex ways becomes steadily harder, of
course, because you have to treat Lisp as more of a programming language
and less of a cookbook...)

> The only two "IDEs" I know of that don't make any un-toward assumptions
> are Unix itself and Forth. Depends on how unique your code is as to how
> much of a problem that is.

Unix makes plenty of assumptions; so does Emacs; so does any
environment. As long as you agree with the assumptions, all will be
well. The problem with platforms like Windows, DOS &c isn't that they
demand you adapt to them but that the adaptations you have to do are so
bloody bizarre.

-- 
`I am of the belief that catnip arrived on the planet in the same spaceship
 that delivered cats. It is the only thing they have from their home
 planet. Tuna, chicken, sparrow-brains, etc., these are all things of our
 world that they like, but catnip is crack from home.' --- Bill Cole

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From: Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: A good IDE
Date: 31 Jul 2000 02:00:45 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (cLIeNUX user) writes:

> I use sh scripts instead of make.

*boggle* *splutter*

-- 
`I am of the belief that catnip arrived on the planet in the same spaceship
 that delivered cats. It is the only thing they have from their home
 planet. Tuna, chicken, sparrow-brains, etc., these are all things of our
 world that they like, but catnip is crack from home.' --- Bill Cole

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Subject: Re: ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000 - distortion problem
From: baghdady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:41 -0700

OH THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK Y...

I owe you a milion my friend. Just curious, where did you find
this information? Is it possible that I (little me) would find
such information on the internet? I have already read many web
pages and FAQ's about configuring graphics cards without finding
anything similar to "ChipID" let alone what chip ID the ATI Rage
has.
By the way, I don't have this distortion problem (which is the
original subject of this thread. I beg everyone of pardon for
getting off subject in my reply).
I can send my XF86Config file to those who have a distortion
problem in order to compare it with their own. Just email me.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SMP and command-line execution
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:01:20 GMT

Geoff,

Thanks for that - it seems that procps-2.0.7 does SMP.

You don't happen to know which version of the kernel I should be
digging into do you?

Many thanks again,

    Paul.

In article <8m1eok$2ki$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Geoff Short <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what I'd like to do is execute
> : processes on a particular CPU from the command-line. I've been told
> : this is possible, but how?
>
> It's not an off-the-shelf option with linux at the moment, most people
> take the approach of letting the kernel sort out the best way to run
> jobs.  There may be someone with a patch though...
>
> : Also, I'm looking for a version of 'top' that displays the cpu
number
> : that each process is executing on. This is available for Sequent
> : hardware, but wondered whether this has been done under Linux.
>
> Yes, there is a version of procps out there which lets ps, top
> and other programs find out which was the last processor used. (Sorry
> no link, search for procps SMP patch) Also load-monitoring tools like
> xosview have SMP options.
>
>       Geoff
> --
>
========================================================================
----
> Ever sit and watch ants? They're always busy with
Geoff Short
> something, never stop for a moment.  I just
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> can't identify with that kind of work ethic.
http://kipper.york.ac.uk/~geoff
>


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From: "alikbm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: realtek 8029
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:07:31 +0200
Reply-To: "alikbm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi i am trying to get my RTL8029 pci card to work under linux (mandrake 7.1)
from some reason i can't get it work.

i downloaded and installed the updated ne2k_pci driver from realtek but
when i try to do insmod ne2k_pci.o it gives me something like that:

unresolved symbol ei_open/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol ethdev_init/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol pci_drv_unregister/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol ei_interrupt/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol NS8390_init/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol ei_close/lib/modules/2.2.15-4mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
unresolved symbol pci_drv_register

what should i do?

as i know there have to be no problem regarding that NIC under linux



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From: Mark Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thunderbird ok w/ Linux?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:18:17 +0100


On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm planning on buying a new computer pretty soon, and I want to make
> sure it will run some variation of linux. I was planning on building my
> own Athlon system with a Thunderbird chip, but I was looking through the
> Redhat compatibility lists and found
> 
> " The Athlon CPU itself seems quite stable, but problems reside with the
> new motherboard architecture being used and the cutting edge technology
> implimented in their chipsets. Red Hat Linux may or may not install
> properly on the board according to its components. This is especially
> important in regards to the UDMA/66 IDE controllers that are usually in
> place in these boards (see the IDE adapters section). "
> 
> I'd just like to check anyone has had problems running a Thunderbird
> under Redhat or another distribution.

Hmmm. Well, I've got a t-bird 700 MHz with a Gigabyte M/B with an AMD 
751/756 chipset. Redhat 6.2 didn't like this - it installed OK but froze
on boot up with a kernel panic (something to do with disabling chip serial
IDs).

But..

This appears to be a problem with the kernel shipped with 6.2; I upgraded
the kernel and it now runs fine. So you may have to do this as well. (6.0
installs fine by the way).



Mark




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Intel PRO/DSL 2100 Modem (internal-pci) drivers ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:44:12 GMT

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:15:40 -0700, Milo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Does anyone have any linux driver info for Intel's PRO/DSL internal pci
>model. Its a DSL card that accepts the phone line right into the
>computer. Its what came with my DSL account. I wanted the Cisco
>mini-router but was stuck with this thing.

No one has them. They don't exist.

-- 
Hal B
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ron Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:48:15 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does this hold true for the Toshiba Portege 7100 series?  I would think not,
but if anybody has any clues, I would appreciate it.  RH 6.2 runs, but I get
no X, and no networking (almost got the networking licked).  Looks like it
uses Cyberblade for the video, but still can't get X-Wndows to work
successfully.

Ron

Andrey Vlasov wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> this page for you
>
> http://wtsupport.metatec.net/technotes/redhat6.2-tecra8100.html
>
> Andrey
>
> javier wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >     I was trying to help a colleague get X running on his Toshiba Tecra
> > 8100. He's got a Savage 3 chipset. Apparantly, there is a patch for the
> > file s3vga_vbe.c in the XFree86-3.3.x distribution which we applied.
> > Then we rebuilt and reinstalled XF86, but whenever we tried to configure
> > X using Xconfigurator, none of the test configurations worked. We got a
> > "chipset does not support configuration" error for everything we tried.
> >
> >  Has anyone had any luck running X on such a machine/chipset?
> >
> > Thanks.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: serial modem us robotics 56k
Date: 31 Jul 2000 11:55:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:29:02 +0200, Jason meyer wrote:
>what is the proceedure to install a serial modem 3com.U.S.Robotics 56k fax
>aparently it is not too much of a mission. is there some documentatio out
>there or cn someone just say the points to the instalation.

http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html
Also look in the manual that should've come with your distro; they
usually spend at least one chapter on configuring modems.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com     /    than freedom.
=============================/              ==Charles Peguy

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From: Ron Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Networking w/D-Link DFE-650TX
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:02:39 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just bought a D-Link DFE-650TX.  I have a dual booted Toshiba Portege
7140, and the Windows side works fine.  Networking is fine.  On the RH
6.2 side, not so good.  Can't get X-Windows configured.  Every
combination of install I use says there is a problem, and can't figure
out how to get it to work.  The Windows side says it is a Cyberblade
chipset, and I select that on the install, but no joy in mudville.  Any
tips or tricks on getting X to work?

On the network side, everything loads up fine.  It's able to recognize
the PCMCIA card, and if I do a ifconfig -a, it shows my lo and eth0.
But when I try to ping my default gateway, I get the following annoying
message:
eth0: trigger_send() called with the transmitter busy

Same thing happens if I try to modify my network settings using
netconfig.  I can ping the IP address of my NIC card, and the lo
interface, but nothing else.  I physically have link light status.  Any
clues here?  In linuxconf, I specified no kernel module (as suggested in
the How-to in linuxberg).

Thanks.

Ron


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Installing my IDE CDRW
Date: 31 Jul 2000 12:03:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:09:41 +0300, Anirudh wrote:
>1. I rebuilt the kernel with SCSI CDROM support, generic support and
>emulation.
>2. I removed ATAPI CDROM support and all SCSI low level drivers.
>3. On bootup, it detects 1 SCSI host - my writer.
>4. But when I try to run cdrecord -scanbus, it tells me that it cannot
>detect anything.

0.  The output of "lsmod" should show the modules ide-scsi, scsi_mod,
sr_mod, and sg as loaded.  If they're not there, modprobe them.  It is a
good idea to put the line
  alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
in /etc/conf.modules if it's not there already.
1.  The cdrecord binary must be SUID root for a normal user to make any
use of it.  "chown root.root `which cdrecord` && chmod 4755 `which
cdrecord` "

>I have read conflicting procedures, some which say to include ATAPI
>CDROM and some which say not to. This is quite confusing to a newbie
>like myself.

It's usually better to avoid IDE CD-ROM support if you're working with
CD-R(W)s.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /   Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com     /    than freedom.
=============================/              ==Charles Peguy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Diamond Supra external serial modem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:44:03 GMT

I have recently bought a Diamond Supra 56k external serial modem. I
believed that, because it is external, I should just be able to plug it
into my computer (running Debian 2.1), and it would work. That hasn't
been the case :-(
Wvdial does not detect it. If I send any commands to it - AT, ATZ,
ATDT, ATI -, using kppp or wvdial, the TR light on the modem comes on
for a few seconds , but the programs report no response.
I have swapped serial ports with my mouse, to make sure the port isn't
the problem, but the mouse continues to work while the modem does not.
I brought the modem into work to try it on a Windows machine and it
works fine here - I installed it as a standard modem to make sure the
signals are Linux compatible. I tried it again at home, in case Windows
had done any special configuration, but it still doesn't work.
Please help - I'm out of ideas.

Thanks

Michael


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From: Massimo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: midi with sb pci128
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:42:28 GMT

Hi,
My brand new PC has a soundblaster pci128 and it works great for sound
but, with redhat 6.2, I am not able to use the MIDI part of it. For
MIDI part I mean the internal midi player and  the external connector
to control my keyboard (I have the midi cable and it works with windows
95).
My problem is that I want to use some programs as Jazz or Rosegarden
and they require playmidi to work. If I run playmidi I receive the
following error: "/dev/sequencer: no such device" and also if I
type "cat /dev/sndstat" I receive "/dev/sndstat: no such device" (the
file exists).2

How can I configure my Linux to see those devices ( need
also /dev/sequencer2 for the external port)?

Thank you in advance for the help.
Massimo

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 Torino Italy


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From: Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:27:28 +0200

Hi all,
        I've just grabbed the latest stable kernel version (i.e. 2.2.16). I've
configured (properly?), compiled, and installed it. It's running fine,
except for two annoying issues:
        a) When booting up, depmod complains of undefined symbols in several
modules. I suppose it's due to a missing module-file, but how to
generate that file? I have set on the three options for "Loadable module
support", namely: "Enable loadable module support", "Set version
information in all symbols for modules", and "Kernel module loader".
Then make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install.
Finally, copy bzImage and System.map to /boot, adding entries to
lilo.conf, and executing lilo.
So can you tell me what am
I missing?
        b) The second issue is a minor detail. When 'halt' is commanded,
everything is done all right except the last step, namely, actually
powering down the machine. I don't know why because the BIOS does
support the programmed power down and the previous kernel (2.2.14) did
power down the machine.
        Thanks for your help.

        Cheers!

        Jos� Manuel



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Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez            e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Dpto. de Ciencias de la Computacion e Inteligencia Artificial
E.T.S. Ingenieria Informatica
Universidad de Granada                  Tel. +34 - 958 - 24 61 43
18071 - GRANADA (Spain)                 Fax: +34 - 958 - 24 33 17

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Backup solution?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 09:02:26 -0400

Bartek Kostrzewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need a small backup solution. It mustn't be very large but at least
> 1.5 Gigs, one very important point is that it has to be fast. (SCSI or
> IDE, no prob). I though about a JAZ or that new drive... ahhm, yeah the
> ORB. Any ideas?

how about mirroring to another hard drive?  cheap, fast and has capacity.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI-controller in Linux
Date: 31 Jul 2000 09:06:13 -0400

"Lawrence C. W. Tai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello.
> 
> Which SCSI-card is the most stable in Linux?

probably a symbios 53c8xx based one like
UW/SE symbios 8751sp, tekram dc390f
U2W/LVD tekram 390u2w
U3W/LVD tekram 390u3w

initio also makes good cards at a fair price.

> Can I use adaptec 29160 in
> Linux?

yes, but they cost a lot for little, if any, benefit.  adaptec is the
new cadillac cimeron.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: network dies when I replace hub with switch
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:21:49 GMT

I have a 2 PC network with one machine in the basement and one in a
bedroom upstairs. Both have 10/100 NICs in them and for  the last few
years they've been connected via a 10Mb. cheapy noname hub which has
been working just fine. Both are running Linux 2.2.14. Out of curiosity,
I picked up a Linksys 10/100 switch just to see if 100Mb. would be
noticeable. Well, I thought I could just swap out the hub for the switch
and be done with it, but whenever I swap in the switch into the network,
I lose all connectivity! I can't ping either PC from the other or do any
other kind of network activity.

The cable run from PC1 to the switch is about 5 feet and from the switch
to PC2 is probably about 75-80 feet of cable. I am using CAT5 cable and
the box the cable came in says its 250 feet of cable. I've seen
documentation (with the switch) where it says fast Ethernet is limited
to 100 meters (368 feet) so I must be within bounds on that, since I
don't own that much cable! And there is still a lot of cable left in the
box.

It looks to me like the right lights on the switch box light up as
expected when I have the PCs booted up.

I also tried moving the two PCs physically right next to each other and
setting everything up. That did work. So my guess is that the problem is
related to the length of the switch -> PC2 run. But 75-80 feet should be
well within bounds. So why would I be having problems? And if I use the
10Mb. hub with the same cable, everything is OK. How can I more
thoroughly test my cable and fix whatever the problem may be? Do I need
to buy a signal booster and do they even sell such things for Ethernet?
Are they expensive?


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:34:18 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>     b) The second issue is a minor detail. When 'halt' is commanded,
>everything is done all right except the last step, namely, actually
>powering down the machine. I don't know why because the BIOS does
>support the programmed power down and the previous kernel (2.2.14) did
>power down the machine.

Enable "Use real mode APM bios call to power off" in your kernel config, 
and you should be OK :)


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Steenstrupsgate 5 B     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:36:56 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>generate that file? I have set on the three options for "Loadable module
>support", namely: "Enable loadable module support", "Set version
>information in all symbols for modules", and "Kernel module loader".
>Then make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install.

You should run "make clean" before "make bzImage" :) Although this will 
probably not remove the unresolved symbol messages. 
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Steenstrupsgate 5 B     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Romek Pitera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diamond Supra external serial modem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:41:52 +0100

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have recently bought a Diamond Supra 56k external serial modem. I
> believed that, because it is external, I should just be able to plug it
> into my computer (running Debian 2.1), and it would work. That hasn't
> been the case :-(
> Wvdial does not detect it. If I send any commands to it - AT, ATZ,
> ATDT, ATI -, using kppp or wvdial, the TR light on the modem comes on
> for a few seconds , but the programs report no response.
> I have swapped serial ports with my mouse, to make sure the port isn't
> the problem, but the mouse continues to work while the modem does not.
> I brought the modem into work to try it on a Windows machine and it
> works fine here - I installed it as a standard modem to make sure the
> signals are Linux compatible. I tried it again at home, in case Windows
> had done any special configuration, but it still doesn't work.
> Please help - I'm out of ideas.

Links that I found useful when setting up the same model (under 
slackware):
http://www.dendarii.demon.co.uk/linux/index.html
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

Although many links in the first URL address demon ISP, you'll find some
general advice there too. 

R Pitera
Direct your response to: r dot pitera at qmw dot ac dot uk
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From: "Steve Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: network dies when I replace hub with switch
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:43:11 +0100

Hi,

It could be that the cable run being used is not CAT5 compliant (could
well be CAT3 for 10baseT). CAT3 will work fine for 10baseT and could explain
why it
seems to work alright. If you can use drivers disks to force the cards to
10baseT
it may well be worth trying to see if that works for the 10/100 hub

The cables should have CAT5 or CAT3 printed on them - usually,
CAT5 is blue or grey and thick like power flex. CAT3 is a lot
thinner, like modem cables.

Steve

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8m3uh7$q7s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a 2 PC network with one machine in the basement and one in a
> bedroom upstairs. Both have 10/100 NICs in them and for  the last few
> years they've been connected via a 10Mb. cheapy noname hub which has
> been working just fine. Both are running Linux 2.2.14. Out of curiosity,
> I picked up a Linksys 10/100 switch just to see if 100Mb. would be
> noticeable. Well, I thought I could just swap out the hub for the switch
> and be done with it, but whenever I swap in the switch into the network,
> I lose all connectivity! I can't ping either PC from the other or do any
> other kind of network activity.
>
> The cable run from PC1 to the switch is about 5 feet and from the switch
> to PC2 is probably about 75-80 feet of cable. I am using CAT5 cable and
> the box the cable came in says its 250 feet of cable. I've seen
> documentation (with the switch) where it says fast Ethernet is limited
> to 100 meters (368 feet) so I must be within bounds on that, since I
> don't own that much cable! And there is still a lot of cable left in the
> box.
>
> It looks to me like the right lights on the switch box light up as
> expected when I have the PCs booted up.
>
> I also tried moving the two PCs physically right next to each other and
> setting everything up. That did work. So my guess is that the problem is
> related to the length of the switch -> PC2 run. But 75-80 feet should be
> well within bounds. So why would I be having problems? And if I use the
> 10Mb. hub with the same cable, everything is OK. How can I more
> thoroughly test my cable and fix whatever the problem may be? Do I need
> to buy a signal booster and do they even sell such things for Ethernet?
> Are they expensive?
>
>
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> Before you buy.



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