Linux-Hardware Digest #397, Volume #13 Thu, 10 Aug 00 15:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: /boot and hw RAID ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on AMD (J Bland)
Re: promise fast trak 66 and suse-linux (Andrey Vlasov)
Horror story...please help me! LM 7.1 expert install zeroed the partitions of my
Promise raid0 (Paolo Servadei)
Re: HP Colorado Tape (Mike Edwards)
Re: Does anybody know how to make work XFree86 with the NeoMagic 256 LX+ (Andrey
Vlasov)
i810, AC '97, sound (Hammer)
20gb ("Harsh")
Compaq IJ600 (Lexmark) Printer Problems ("David N. Haney")
URGENT : Rackmount case with riser cards and Network cards ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
Mainboard founds uart 16450 instead of 16550a ("michal l.")
Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: /boot and hw RAID
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:04:30 GMT
Thanks (everyone in this thread) for the information. This gives me a
better idea of what will work and what hardware options I can try.
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 10 Aug 2000 17:17:39 GMT
>If you will be exclusively using Linux on that hardware, a less
>expensive video card may be just fine. I'm using a Riva TNT card on
>mine and it works great.
>
>AFAIK, XFree86/Mesa still doesn't support hardware 3D acceleration, so
>all the new features of the latest boards won't gain you very much. In
>terms of 2D performance (Which definitely affects XFree86), IMO, most
>modern boards perform equally well.
>
>(If hardware accelerated OpenGL is available for Linux, I'd love to
>know. A pointer to a web site for a non-commercial offering would be
>greatly appreciated.)
http://utah-glx.sourceforge.net/
http://linux.3dfx.com/
http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf
Not saying it's easy to set up some of these (3dfx is pretty easy on SuSE
though it's fullscreen only) but all 3dfx chipsets, nvidia TNTs, ATi Rages,
Matrox G200/400 are supported pretty well, and there's developing support
for a few others like S3 ViRGE etc.
Your TNT is probably the 'best' supported atm, with Nvidias closed source
binaries on X4 being very close in performance to those on Windows.
So, that's a little more than no 3D accleration at all. My Voodoo3 3000 goes
like a greased pig under SuSE 6.4, thankyou.
Frinky
--
John Bland MPhys(Hons) GradInstP Webmaster and Sys Admin.
http://ringtail.cmp.liv.ac.uk/ Condensed Matter Group
Email: j.bland at liv.ac.uk Liverpool University
"And it can suck a monkey through 30ft of garden hose!!"
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: promise fast trak 66 and suse-linux
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:27:53 -0700
Hi there,
probably you need look at these
http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b6506063/hpt366/
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA-5.html#ss5.1
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Ultra-DMA.html
Andrey
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
> hello,
>
> I've got the alpha driver for redhat 6.1 from this newsgroup (thanks to
> yves bruggemann) but want to use the fast trak 66 with suse linux 6.4.
> anybody here who has done this before ??
>
> thank you in advance
>
> bg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paolo Servadei)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.madrake,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: Horror story...please help me! LM 7.1 expert install zeroed the partitions
of my Promise raid0
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:30:25 GMT
Hi!
Here's the horror story i experienced this afternoon.
I a word...LM 7.1 install won't recognize my FastTrack 66
RAID adapter, considered it some sort of non supported ide
PCI controller...and "repaired" the "bad" partition table...
All this with expert install, and having explicitly choosen to
leave the partition table alone, and to NOT format any partition.
If you want detailed infos, read the rest of my posting.
If you know that there is some sort of log of the operation
that were done to the disks, i could recreate the partitions and get
back the VERY VERY important files i missed (just deleted from
any other media, having scheduled for tonight to burn most of
them on cdr's.
The installation process of Mandrake 7.1 broke up a RAID0
stripeset, erasing all the information about the partitions
contained in such stripeset.
This is nothing less than terrible, as i had many gigs of
apps and data, that are not mirrored in any other disk, and
that i didn't backup...:-(
It's the worst disaster in my informatic life, cause i missed
hundreds of technical documents, that were previously mirrored
on a Jaz drive, and that i erased on the Jaz cartridge just
yesterday...and that i planned to burn on a cdr this evening.
In the meantime i decided to install Mandrake 7.1, and now
everything is gone.
In a few words, my hardware is as follows:
Abit BP6 dual with Celeron 366, on-board HPT366 controller
with a cd and an old eide HD connected, an Acard scsi-2 Ultra
adapter with a Plextor cdr (and occasionally a Jaz connected
externally), a Promise FastTrack 66 RAID adapter with two
Maxtor 10GB 7200rpm configured in RAID0, and another Maxtor
10GB 7200rpm connected to the first eide port of the BX
chipset, like boot disk.
Previously everything worked extremely well, and after a major
hardware swapping i have just added Win 2000 Pro (ACPI SMP
kernel) to the Win 98 and NT4 Server OSes already present.
I started the installation of Mandrake 7.1, with boot
floppy for cd install, and the cd inserted into the cdr
connected to the Acard scsi controller.
Everything was running well, at first, but i had to do
all my choices with the keyboard, cause i used an USB mice
that was not recognized, even after i choose "USB 3 buttons"
for mouse hardware.
The other choices i did were expert installation, and Server
computer.
When it came to the choice of the install partitions, i tried
to make the system use the three partitions i had already
created with Partition Magic 5.0.
The root partition was at the end of the eide HD connected to
the main controller, while for the swap and the /home mounting
point i choose the ext2 and Linux swap partitions already
available on the small (1.2GB) eide disk connected to the HPT366
UDMA66 on-board adapter.
I choose to NOT format any partition...but before it started to
install the .rpm packages the message "formatting" appeared for
a couple of seconds on the screen.
What's more intersting is that BEFORE all this, when i came
to the partition selection screen, a message appeared saying that
there were problems with the partitions, and asking if it should
fix it; i choose cancel (NOT OK!), and i went on.
I suppose that it "fixed" something anyway....and my RAID became
an emty one...still usable and healthy (Promise bios checks for
it at every boot), but with no partitions defined!
What makes me crazy is that all the data are still there,
but i have no idea about the exact size of the three partitions,
so i can't recreate it.
I swear that trying to read the disk "physically" would
bring to nowhere, as it's not a single physical disk, but a
virtual drive where all the writes are split between the
two disks, in such a way that only the Promise bios can
interpretate.
I didn't wont to do nothing before asking for help, but i am
afraid that software like Tiramisu and the like could be of
no help for me (but we say in Italy that "the hope is the
last to die...").
Am i wrong?
Anyway...the installation process did not succeed, cause after a
while the computer suddenly rebooted.
It was about at one third or less.
After the reboot i looked at what happened and i found out that
all my RAID partitions disappeared!
The only hope to recreate the original partitions i can
think of (with my small knowledge of Linux systems), is that there
could be somewhere a log file that listed all the actions that the
installation process did to my disks...
I hope you could help me.
If i loose all the content of the three RAID partitions, it would be
one of the worst nightmares i could even dream of...
I had no cdr backup of 90% of it, cause i needed the drivers, docs,
technical literature, capture of Web sites, for my everyday work of
hardware assistance...so i preferred to keep everything on a faster
HD, with a Jaz cartridge that mirrored its content.
In the last two days i erased the Jaz cause i needed it, and i
transferred everything on two of the RAID partitions, cause the HD
were the data resided became one of the two disks of the stripe set!!
I was not feeling good with just one copy...and i planned to backup
everything on cdr media tonight...but i had the bad idea to install
Linux in the afternoon:-(
Please forgive my convoluted english, and my long and heavy posting.
I am in your hands...please give me some advice!
please drop me a line by email if you see some way to get out from
this very uncomfortable situation, i can't monitor this newsgroup as
i'd like to be able to do (take out NONAG from my address!)
thanks
Paolo
Paolo Bologna Italy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP Colorado Tape
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:32:31 -0500
Someone should really write up a HOWTO on getting the HP Colorado TBU to
run. I have tried nearly everything suggested (I'm still hammering on
it), and am still stymied. Once I get it running, I will post the
procedure myself, but if, in the meantime, someone can present a
by-the-numbers procedure, it would be appreciated by many HP Colorado
owners!
Cheers!
Mike
Jake wrote:
>
> Taken from a recent thread on this very newsgroup:
> "Help!!! IDE Tape drive setup"
>
> Jake
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierwotna wiadomosc <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Am 8/6/00, 4:20:57 AM, napisal "Shawn Salyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> na temat Help!!! IDE Tape drive setup.:
>
> > I have a HP Colorado 20GB IDE tape backup unit, and I am running RedHat
> 6.2,
> > when I boot it sees the drive as HDD. But I cannot mount/use the drive.
> > Please help with detailed instructions or a link. I am not toooo new to
> > Linux, but have never used a tapedrive with it.
>
> > --Shawn
>
> First of all, there is a special newsgruup for tape drives which you will
> probably find very useful.
> linux.dev.tape
> to use this drive you have to use the device /dev/ht0 and /dev/nht0
> later is NOT self-rewinding.
> And programs like kbakup or at least taper
> try
> tar cf /dev/nht0 <dir-to-backup>
>
> also
> man mt
>
> --
> Michael Bozalek
>
> and
>
> > I have a HP Colorado 20GB IDE tape backup unit, and I am running RedHat
> 6.2,
> > when I boot it sees the drive as HDD. But I cannot mount/use the drive.
>
> The tape is addressed via the character device associated at boot time.
> Look for lines in dmesg output with 'ide-tape'. On my machine 'tar cvzf
> /dev/nht0 ./home' and 'tar cvzf /dev/tape ./home' are identical, but
> 'tar cvzf /dev/hdb ./home' would not work.
>
> Link /dev/tape to the norewind device.
>
> # ls -l /dev/*ht*
> crw-rw-rw- 1 root disk 37, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/ht0
> crw-rw-rw- 1 root disk 37, 128 May 5 1998 /dev/nht0
> # ln -s /dev/nht0 /dev/tape
>
> Get a good mt package. Versions earlier than this have broken
> positioning commands. Useful are the seek, tell, status and fsf
> commands.
>
> # mt
>
> Philip Juels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Anyone have any experience getting an HP Colorado ATAPI 14GB tape drive
> > working in RH6.2 linux? The kernel sees it as /dev/hdc but I can't get
> > to with mt or tar (sort of like a zip drive -> /dev/hdd4?).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Phil Juels
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
--
Mike Edwards, MIS
Edwards Graphic Arts, Inc.
2700 Bell Avenue
Des Moines, IA 50321
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Does anybody know how to make work XFree86 with the NeoMagic 256 LX+
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:43:07 -0700
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Hi there,
I could not find installation procedure for your Sony Vaio PCG-709
notebook but found for SONY VAIO PCG-737/PCG-747 which also use NeoMagic
chipset. Try your luck
http://www.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de/~icschlei/vaio/main.html#X
http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/cgi-bin/search?form=advanced&query=XFCom-neomagic-&doit=Search&type=Case+insensitive+multiple+substrings+search&hits=15&matches=&hitsprmatch=&limdom=&limpath=&limsize1=&limsize2=&limtime1=&limtime2=&f1=Count&f2=Mode&f3=Size&f4=Date&f5=Host&f6=Path&header=none&sort=none&trlen=20
Andrey
Julian Eggert wrote:
> Does anybody know how to make work XFree86 with the NeoMagic 256 LX+
> graphic chip? (For a Sony Vaio PCG-709 notebook)
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Julian
>
> Julian Eggert Future Technology Research
> HONDA R&D Europe (Deutschland) GmbH
> Phone: +49(69)89011737 Carl-Legien-Strasse 30
> Fax: +49(69)89011749 63073 Offenbach/Main - Germany
>
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http:// ... (not yet)
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Hi there,
<p>I could not find installation procedure for your Sony Vaio PCG-709 notebook
but found for SONY VAIO PCG-737/PCG-747 which also use NeoMagic chipset.
Try your luck
<p><A
HREF="http://www.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de/~icschlei/vaio/main.html#X">http://www.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de/~icschlei/vaio/main.html#X</A>
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<p>Andrey
<p>Julian Eggert wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Does anybody know how to make work XFree86 with the
NeoMagic 256 LX+
<br>graphic chip? (For a Sony Vaio PCG-709 notebook)
<p>Thanks a lot
<p>Julian
<p>Julian
Eggert
Future Technology Research
<br>
HONDA R&D Europe (Deutschland) GmbH
<br>Phone: +49(69)89011737 Carl-Legien-Strasse
30
<br>Fax: +49(69)89011749 63073 Offenbach/Main
- Germany
<p><a
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From: Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: i810, AC '97, sound
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:13:29 GMT
Potentially dumb question here, sorry. I have a (stupid) Dell system
here with the i810 and the AC '97. If I were to go into the BIOS and
off the onboard sound support, and toss an SB PCI128 (or similar) in
the box, would that eliminate the need for ALSA support of the AC'97??
I know I could do the alsa thing, but I don't really have the time.
I hope this isn't too ignorant of a question. I never did understand
this sound bridge business in the chipsets.
-=hammer
--
MC
"I've been trying to get as far away from myself as I can" - Bob Dylan
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From: "Harsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 20gb
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:50:15 -0700
i have a 20gb hdd.
wanna install redhat6.x . . .
partitions are 10gb + 5gb + 5gb
redhat shows 10gb+10gb. . .
please guide
can i install on secondary drive
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From: "David N. Haney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Compaq IJ600 (Lexmark) Printer Problems
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:29:10 -0700
Linux Gurus:
I have purchased a new Compaq that included an IJ600 printer. This
computer is for my son going off to college where Linux is critical.
I have installed Red Hat 6.2 and then Caldera Systems 2.4. Neither
could get very far with this printer. The printer works fine in
Windows98, and the computer parallel port works fine with an HP850,
thus it must be the Printer driver. RH 6.2 recognizes the Compaq
printer as a Lexmark Inkjet 4103.
The odd thing is that none of the printer drivers will do anything
to get the attention of the printer, even just sending ASCII text,
or using something like cat printcap > /dev/lp0. The printer acts
dead, until you set it up in Windows98, all is fine. RH has a couple
of Lexmark printer drivers, but neither do anything. Caldera has
many more Lexmark printer drivers, but none of them work either.
Any suggestions on how I might get this ?newer printer working?
Unfortunately, Compaq seems to have written LINUX off (maybe
they like being abused by Microsoft).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: URGENT : Rackmount case with riser cards and Network cards
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:31:36 GMT
Hiya. We are trying to build a rackmount system in a 2U case. The
case is a Procase IPC 2U one with 3 PCI risers. Now, we need to have 2
PCI network cards and a PCI vga card. When we do this, both Network
cards are assigned IRQ 10 by the bios, and subsequently, under redhat
6.2, only one will work (the other clains the IRQ may be blocked). We
have tried this with Netvin RTL8139B cards and 3COM cards and the
problem persists.
Can someone please assist of give me some pointers ?
Thanks
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:57:06 -0700
J Bland wrote:
>
> >> 1. You'll sit tilted to the right. That's from the thickness of all that
> >> extra money in the wallet in your left hip pocket.
> >> 2. You won't be sending an Intel unique CPU identifier to anyone who has
> >> the hack and asks for it.
> >> 3. You'll just have to put up with the extra speed. Poor you.
> >>
> >SuSE 6.4 have default K6-3DNow optimisation as well.
>
> Do they? Never seen it myself. I wonder how you get 3dnow optimisations in
> an i386 rpm...
Yes SuSE does. It's in the kernel. You can chose AMD-3D support during
setup in YaST2. :-)
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: "michal l." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mainboard founds uart 16450 instead of 16550a
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:53:52 +0200
I have got old 486 mainboard, which founds only uart 16450, but this should
be uart 16550a on Zoom isa pnp modem. On newer motherboard there are no
problems. Do you think that bios upgrade can help ?
Maybe, you have some other solutions
I'm waiting forward to solve it
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:04:51 -0700
Boddhisatva Troutwaxer wrote:
>
> shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am thinking of setting up Linux on an AMD machine. Did you
> have any
> >problem with the install or after the install?
> >
> >Shook
>
> The one issue you should be aware of if you are using AMD to save
> money is that you cannot go cheap on the memory. Linux really
> needs to have good, high quality memory.
>
> Also, if you have one of those motherboards that uses both kinds
> of memory, be aware that the 72 pin implementation on some of
> those motherboards is not very good. Return your 72 pin memory to
> the store and get the good stuff.
>
> I also had terrible problems with overheating the first time I
> tried an AMD, but that was because I had a ribbon cable caught
> in the fan. ;)
>
> T.
>
I've set up an AMD K-6/3 3DNow on an Epox mobo , with 2x64MB PC-100RAM.
It's pretty nice. Yeah, you do need a good heatsink and a good ball
bearing fan.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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