Linux-Hardware Digest #399, Volume #13 Fri, 11 Aug 00 00:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Cannon BJC2000 printer (Lake Park)
Re: Dual processor board? (Cokey de Percin)
Trouble with PCI SB AWE64 (Ryan Gunn)
Re: MAndrake 7.1 And geforce2GTS ("Tsan NgeeJee")
Re: 20gb (James Richard Tyrer)
Intellimouse Optical OK? ("Gerardo")
Re: Intellimouse Optical OK? (Brian Stretch)
System troubles (Robert Schweikert)
Re: Linux software RAID vs. hardware RAID (James Knowles)
Re: K6-2 vs Duron - a server platform (James Knowles)
Re: Why is my harddisk so slow? (James Knowles)
Re: Promise FastTrack66 IDE Raid Controller (James Knowles)
My SG86C205 on the board pci video! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Using Promise Technology's Bios upgrade and ATA-66 boards with Linux (James
Knowles)
Re: System troubles (Dances With Crows)
Re: General soundcard question - mandrake (painSlave)
Re: General soundcard question - mandrake (painSlave)
Working - Thanks: 20.4GB HD, bios limitation, EZ-drive or any other?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How can i install redhat5.2 with scsi ultra160 hard disk(aic7892)? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How can i install redhat5.2 with scsi ultra160 hard disk(aic7892)? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: need help adding SCSI ("Shane Crowe")
IDE BM-DMA still broken??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Lake Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cannon BJC2000 printer
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:07:13 +1000
G'day.
My linux is Redhat 6.2` and printer is "CANNON BJC 2100SP (bjc2000)"
It detects printer port as lp0
So, I set the port with printtool.
When I try to print anything, printer doesn't work.
On Windows 98, 2000 that is OK.
The cannon bjc printer is not possible to print on Linux?
Does anybody have an idea? How?
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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual processor board?
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:35:40 GMT
"D. Stimits" wrote:
>
> Cokey de Percin wrote:
> >
> > Chris Rankin wrote:
> > >
> > > "D. Stimits" wrote:
> > > > I have personally talked on the phone for hours with SuperMicro, and
> > > > they are simply not interested. They can only quote that it is stable
> > > > under NT (which isn't entirely true, but that probably isn't the mobo
> > > > problem). I don't know who to ask about supporting this, since
> > > > SuperMicro won't even provide information, but possibly Intel is the
> > > > next choice, since they have their hopes into both the chipset and
> > > > linux. But consider SuperMicro a non-linux-compatible source from now on
> > > > (at least for newer chipsets like i840).
> >
> > Personally, I don't like any of Intels current 8XX chipsets and am
> > avoiding them completely. The (next generation?) of dual boards from
> > SM and other seem to be using the ServerWorks chip sets. SM recently
> > started adv. 3 dual (370) boards with SW chipsets, all having at least 2
> > 64x66 PCI and all use SDRAM. This doesn't solve the 840 problem, but
> > the future looks better.
>
> If I abandon my current board, and can find a replacement that has slot
> 1 PIII's, with DIMM's, along with the 64x66 PCI you mention, I'd be
> ecstatic (this causes no harm to electrical devices :). I don't know the
> brand SM by this abbreviation though, do you have a URL that mentions
> these boards? I have no qualms about abandoning SuperMicro now, but cost
> always matters, and recycling current components is a huge plus (rdram,
> for example is an extreme cost and disappointment).
>
> >
SM is SuperMicro and all the dual boards with ServerWorks chip sets that
I've seen so far (from SM) seem to be 370 FCPGA. I know that other (all?)
manuf. of dual SERVER boards are looking at SW chipsets and apparently
even Intel is starting to use them as they (Intel) have stumbled very
badly.
Best
Cokey
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From: Ryan Gunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble with PCI SB AWE64
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:56:48 -0400
Upon trying to configue my Soundblaster AWE64 PCI on my RedHat 6.1 box
with sndconfig 0.44 I get the error:
"The Creative Labs|unknown device 1102:0003 is not supported"
I tried to re-compile the kernel with all the recommended AWE32 support,
and still nothing. All the isapnp stuff I hear about does not work
because it's a PCI card.
Any suggestions would be welcomed.
Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the help.
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From: "Tsan NgeeJee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MAndrake 7.1 And geforce2GTS
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:54:30 +0800
same thing here..
My CL GF2 GTS also refuse to work with RedHat 6.1 / 6.2
even with the nVidia drivers installed... still no solution yet..
anyone help us please?
"kurtkiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8mv28s$dd1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I 've bought a geforce 2 GTS and i've install mandrake 7.1 but i've some
> diplay error. In fact, my screen became black with some colored line when
i
> launch KDE. I don't what i must do for it work.
> Kurt
>
>
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 20gb
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:30:28 GMT
Harsh wrote:
> i have a 20gb hdd.
>
> wanna install redhat6.x . . .
>
> partitions are 10gb + 5gb + 5gb
>
> redhat shows 10gb+10gb. . .
>
> please guide
> can i install on secondary drive
Is this what Linux "fdisk" lists?
JRT
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From: "Gerardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Intellimouse Optical OK?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:07:58 -0400
Does Linux supports Intellimouse Optical?
Thanks,
Gerardo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Brian Stretch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intellimouse Optical OK?
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:33:00 GMT
Yup. It's just another Intellimouse; I left my box configured as
having a PS/2 Intellimouse after I replaced my old Intellimouse with an
Intellimouse Optical, no problems. The Opticals are *nice*, btw.
Gerardo wrote:
>
> Does Linux supports Intellimouse Optical?
>
> Thanks,
> Gerardo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Brian Stretch http://www.mindspring.com/~bstretch Cert. Technojunkie
"Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a
well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does, after all,
enjoy free health care and 100 percent literacy."--John Derbyshire, NR
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: System troubles
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:41:16 -0400
Something is wrong with my system but I have no clue what could be going
on and I need some help. Here are the symptoms:
- System hangs every now and so often, for example it just hung when I
brought up netscape
- When I compile code, such as the kernel or gcc (which doesn't work at
all) my CPU load drops to zero at what appears to be random occasions.
If I wait long enough the system will hang, if I kill the compile
process I get something like the following:
make[3]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[3]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[2]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[2]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[1]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[1]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
This indicates to me that something got lost.
- Generally I would say I have a better chance of getting stuff compiled
after a reboot, as opposed to having the system up and running for a
while.
- When trying to compile gcc-2.95.2 I get the farthest right after a
reboot.
- I was able to compile the kernel 2.4-test5 with no troubles, but when
I tried to compile just now the CPU load dropped to zero and I got the
messages above after killing the compile process.
- Get SIG11 sometimes when compiling (not consistently) I have tried a
different (new) memory stick, that did not help.
- Monitoring the state of the memory I notice that a tone of memory is
allocated to "other" (whatever that means) and that the state of memory
usage is different every time I boot the system, although the same
processes are running.
- Further when I unzip or untar something the "other" memory goes up
quite a bit but it never drops back down to the level prior to the tar
or gunzip operation.
System details:
- RH6.2 system upgraded from 6.1, no clean install of 6.1 used the RH
upgrade mechanisms.
- Using Kernel 2.4-test5
- Tyan motherboard with Dual PII 450 MHz, 128 MB PC100 memory, Intel
440GX chipset
- ATAPI CDROM, Fujitsu EIDE Hard Disc, Quantum Atlas V SCSI drive,
Tekram DC-390U3W controller
- Current gcc version is 2.95, installed via RPM from the RH contrib
site
- Upgraded to GNOME 1.2, using IceWM
Troubles also existed using the 2.2.16-3 kernel which I installed via
rpm from RH.
Any help, hints where to look, ideas are appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux software RAID vs. hardware RAID
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:19:42 -0600
> What
> does this mean for setting up linux? Do I want to enable RAID in the kernel
Not for HW RAID. RAID in the kernel is for SW RAID.
> What about on install when the installer sees two hard drives when
> i really only want it to see one?
I can't speak for that mobo specifically.
HW RAID will show up as a single drive under Linux. You use the
manufacturer's SW to set up the drives.
I've used SW RAID under Linux for a long time. You have to set things up
manually, which is straightforward but a little involved. I just
completed testing and benchmarking SW RAID with the Promise Ultra100
card w/a couple of IBM 7200 RPM ATA-100 drives. I think that the IDE
technology's advanced to the point where our next server's going to use
that instead of SCSI, which we've relied on for well over a decade.
HW RAID: More $$, less fuss.
SW RAID: Less $$, more fuss.
My half-nybble.
--
Love may conquer everything, but it needs time as its field general.
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: K6-2 vs Duron - a server platform
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:40:57 -0600
> However, I'm not quite sure whether
> Duron 600 (or so) would make a faster machine at
> the same $ cost. Has anyone had a similiar
> dilemma? Which one to choose? How does duron
> perform as a server? Any motherboard/processor
> tips?
If you want a comparison of the CPUs etc., check Tom's Hardware website
(http://www.tomshardware.com).
In practice, the hard drive will be the bottleneck. My priorities might
be:
1) Get a mobo/HD combination that can handle good transfer rates (you
may need to manually enable DMA with hdparm). My gut feeling is that a
more up-to-date architecture will be a better bet.
2) Get a decent amount of RAM. 128MB should be way plenty. Don't go
below 64MB. 32 will work, but you won't get the disk caching benefits.
3) CPU consideration generally comes last for this type of machine.
Clock-for-clock Duron should spank the K6-2 pretty hard, however. It's a
slightly neutered Athlon and performs on par in many instances.
I have a little print/file server that's a K6-2/500 on an ASUS P5A-B
64MB RAM. It may be the older hard drive, but I'm not happy with the
disk transfer rates. 64MB RAM works great (don't install X!).
My wild guess would be that a Duron mobo would give better odds of disk
performance, but I *am* kind of shooting in the dark here.
My half-nybble.
--
Long-range planning does not deal with future decisions, but with the
future of present decisions.
- Peter Drucker
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is my harddisk so slow?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:50:21 -0600
> > > RAID-0, but that's an entirely different can of worms.
> > What is this RAID thing anyway?
> There are different raid levels. I've heard roughly equivalent, but
> different meanings of the acronym, e.g., Redundant Array of Inexpensive
> Disks.
Very nice explanation.
I brought up RAID mainly to be silly. I spent a good deal of time
yesterday benchmarking software RAID with a new ATA-100 setup and nearly
wet my pants when I ran the RAID-0 benchmarks. I had to run them a
couple more times to convince me. Too bad there's no redundancy in
RAID-0. I still need to bencmark mirrored stripes though.
--
There are two paths that people can take. They can either play now and
pay later or pay now an play later. Regardless of the choices, one thing
is certain. Life will demand a payment.
- John C. Maxwell, _Developing the Leader Within You_
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Promise FastTrack66 IDE Raid Controller
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:58:03 -0600
> If you want raid and want to do it cheaply then one way is to use the
> promise UDMA66 non-raid card and software raid.
If you're into hacking hardware, Tom's Hardware shows how to add a
single resistor and turn the Promise card into its RAID controller.
Pretty funny.
The 2.4 kernels support the Promise cards fine. I tested their Ultra100
card with software RAID. I nearly wet myself benchmarking RAID-0. Never
seen those kind of sustained transfer rates before.
--
The New Testament offers the basis for modern computer coding theory, in
the form of an affirmation of the binary number system.
But let your communication be Yea, yea; nay, nay: for whatsoever is more
than these cometh of evil.
- Matthew 5:37
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: My SG86C205 on the board pci video!
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:59:24 GMT
We'll I could not find much info on whether or not anyone had any
success using the vesafb drivers with this video card/chipset, and
thought maybe this would be a good place let people know that I have
had success with the vesafb drivers. It's no big deal I know. I
searched and searched, wondering if this would work before I went and
recompiled, but to no avail. Oh X runs fine, and least on my RedHat
6.0 system. I did nothing unusual, just followed the Howto. I thought
maybe someone in future might try doing a search at deja or similar
and find this information useful. If there is a better place to post
this sorta thing, please let me know.
This was fun for me. I just noticed that the video card message when I
first turn on my puter said "VESA 2.0 compliant" and wondered what
that meant. Did a couple of searches and found out that I could see a
little penguin logo on boot-up and decided I had to have it. If I read
correctly, with this driver and the framebuffer x server, I may even
be able to get true color under X with this card, passing an argument
to startx. I get high color now, anyways, Im rambling.
Thanks,
Charlie
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Promise Technology's Bios upgrade and ATA-66 boards with Linux
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:00:54 -0600
> The ultra100 also works if you patch the kernel see http://www.linux-ide.org
Thanks for the pointer. Bought an Ultra100 earlier this wee. I actually
tested with the 2.4 pre-release kernels. Quite impressive!
--
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: System troubles
Date: 11 Aug 2000 03:05:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:41:16 -0400, Robert Schweikert wrote:
>Something is wrong with my system but I have no clue what could be going
>on and I need some help. Here are the symptoms:
>- System hangs every now and so often, for example it just hung when I
>brought up netscape
>- When I compile code, such as the kernel or gcc (which doesn't work at
>all) my CPU load drops to zero at what appears to be random occasions.
>If I wait long enough the system will hang, if I kill the compile
>process I get something like the following:
>make[3]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
[snipp]
>- Generally I would say I have a better chance of getting stuff compiled
>after a reboot, as opposed to having the system up and running for a
>while.
>- When trying to compile gcc-2.95.2 I get the farthest right after a
>reboot.
>- Get SIG11 sometimes when compiling (not consistently) I have tried a
>different (new) memory stick, that did not help.
>Troubles also existed using the 2.2.16-3 kernel which I installed via
>rpm from RH.
I had very similar problems with a cheap-arse K6-2/Microstar CPU/mobo
combination. After replacing/upgrading almost everything, I found that
the motherboard was flaky, as the CPU consistently pulls 2-week uptimes
(lightning storms, trying out BSD, the occasional M$ document StarOffice
can't parse) and can compile 5 kernels in a row without SIG-11ing--on a
relatively new EpoxMVP3G2 mobo.
You most likely have a hardware problem, and since you replaced the RAM
and nothing changed, it's either a CPU or a motherboard thing. Pull one
of the CPUs and put the machine through a torture test (compiling a
kernel or five should do it :-] ) Swap the CPUs and do it again. If
both CPUs give the same lockup, you've got a motherboard problem. If
only one of them gives those results, you have a bad CPU.
If you're overclocking, *DON'T*. You know why overclocking and
stability don't mix....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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Subject: Re: General soundcard question - mandrake
From: painSlave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:07:27 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote:
>Not necessarily. "Clone" here means "Any card that has the
exact same
>chipset as the original SB16". Those cards are not made these
days.
>The SB16 emulation that most cards run when they claim to be
SB16
>compatible generally requires DOS/Win drivers.
>
>>I'm looking at a PCI (with a real audio
>>processor) that seems like quite a cool card. I know it will
>>work under my win98, but Linux is where I'll be spending my
time
>>after I get sound and communications going.
>
>http://linhardware.com/ contains a lot of reviews of cards of
all types.
>Actually, if you had said the exact make and model of the card
you plan
>to buy, someone on this NG could probably tell you whether it'd
work or
>not right off the bat.
Thanks for the info.
I'm an idiot. I completely forgot to try the linhardware site.
I just checked it out. The card is listed but shows no rating or
feedback on it. It does, however, list several drivers.
The card's details (as listed on linhardware):
Manufacturer: A-trend
Model: 3DS724A
Category: Sound Card
Chipset: YMF724
Product Spec:
http://www.atrend.com.tw/english/product/multimd/3ds724.htm
Summary: PCI Sound Card, YAMAHA PCI Audio controller YMF-724,
YMF724 chipset
And I did go ahead and buy one. It was only $17. It'll give me
something else to play with even if linux doesn't like it.
Tom
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Subject: Re: General soundcard question - mandrake
From: painSlave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:10:59 -0700
Bartek Kostrzewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The best card I can think of for use with both Linux and Windows
is a
>Creative Labs Soundblaster 128 PCI with the es1370 (resp 71)
chipset.
>Great quality, low CPU use when in EAX or A3D mode and great
Linux
>driver support (strongly recommend using kernel drivers, ALSA
puts a
>strange noise into the stream)
Thanks for the info. I went ahead and bought the other card
since it was only $17. If linux doesn't like it, I'll definitely
check out the SB128.
Tom
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:32:51 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Working - Thanks: 20.4GB HD, bios limitation, EZ-drive or any other?
Thanks everybody, it is working great.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a 4 GB hda for windoze, 4 GB hdb for Debian and just installed a
> 20.4 GB maxtor HD and also running partition commender's boot manager. I
> would like to use this 20.4 gb hdd for debian only.
>
> My bios does not support bigger than 8.4 GB. I got the latest bios
> upgrade from gateway2000, but that didn't do anything. I tried setting
> the hard disk settings in the bios manually (instead of automatic
> configuration) with 39683 cylinder (manufacturer specs says this is the
> max cylinder), did not help. I included the 'append = "hdd =
> 39683,16,63"' in lilo.conf (as suggested by linuxdoc-howto web site),
> still can not get more than 8.4 gb. This howto says that linux can
> bypass the bios settings, but it didn't or I missed something.
>
> Is there any other way to get the 20.4 gb from this harddrive?
> Should I install EZ-Drive software that comes from maxtor? Will this
> screw up the things?
>
> Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How can i install redhat5.2 with scsi ultra160 hard disk(aic7892)?
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 03:23:49 GMT
When i install redhat5.2,kernel couldn't find my hard disk?
redhat 5.2 didn't support scsi ultra160 aic7892,only support
aic788x.How can i install redhat5.2?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How can i install redhat5.2 with scsi ultra160 hard disk(aic7892)?
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 03:23:54 GMT
When i install redhat5.2,kernel couldn't find my hard disk?
redhat 5.2 didn't support scsi ultra160 aic7892,only support
aic788x.How can i install redhat5.2?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Shane Crowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need help adding SCSI
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:35:12 -0500
Oops. I had RH 6.1, not 6.2. An upgrade to the 2.2.14 kernel in RH6.2 fixed the
problem.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IDE BM-DMA still broken???
Date: 10 Aug 2000 23:27:50 -0400
I'm running and AMD Athlon CPU on an Asus K7M motherboard
(AMD 751/ VIA VT82C586 chipsets).
I get the following error under high disk load:
hdc: dma_intr: status=0x54 {DriveStatusError BadCRC}
I tried upgrading the kernel to 2.2.16, applying
the IDE patch, playing with BIOS settings, etc, but it still breaks!
Can anyone tell me why DMA on IDE drives is such a problem? Is it the
reliability of the drives, BIOS problems, tight timings on the controller,
poor cabling, or what? In contrast, it seems I can use any SCSI controller
with any SCSI drive and have no problems whatsoever...
I guess I'll be turning off DMA on all my IDE drives from now on.
Richard
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