Linux-Hardware Digest #678, Volume #13            Thu, 5 Oct 00 18:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Optra 40 setup (Andrey Vlasov)
  Re: scanners
  Re: 3com509b problem (Kresimir Marzic)
  Linux on Compaq Deskpro 6000 MP System (Matt Fuerst)
  Re: ATA/100 drives with Linux ("Dr. Stephen S. Kerr")
  Re: aureal sound device and compiling kernel (stephen)
  Problems with my ATX Keyboard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: -  Installing Iomaga Tape 250 Drive (user)
  Difference between voice modem and telephony card? (Steve Feil)
  Re: Optra 40 setup (Larry Ebbitt)
  Re: Promise UltraATA/100 (James Richard Tyrer)
  Re: Linux on Compaq Deskpro 6000 MP System (Andrey Vlasov)
  adaptec AVA-2902E/I scsi card (Julien du payrat)
  Re: Multiple Monitors in Mandrake 7.1-anybody tried ? (Alejandro Guirao Blank)
  Re: Linux on Compaq Deskpro 6000 MP System ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kernel hangs while accessing IDE disk ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Visor and USB (Kurt Schneider)

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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Optra 40 setup
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 11:11:52 -0700

Hi there,

I don't have this printer but if I am not mistaken it understand
postscript.
In this case all what you need is postscript file correctly formated for
your
paper size and you can "cat" it strait into /dev/lp0 or whatever port you
use.  You can use lp or lpr to print it as well but in this case you need
or do
not use any filter or use PS filter which can reformat PS file to you paper

size.

Andrey

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've got a Lexmark optra 40, which is working ok as a text printer
> using lpr and the 'generic' slackware/bsd /etc/printcap.  I've looked at
> the howto's and around the web to find what I need to print
> postscript, but haven't found anything that nails it down.
>
> Anyone with this printer have it printing postscript?  What do I need
> to print postscript via a shell script?
>
> kernel version is 2.2.13
> dist is slack 7.0
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> Remove anti-spam stuff from address to reply


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: scanners
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:18:36 -0000

On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:30:11 +0000, Ken Siersma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>A few easy questions -Would like to hook up a USB scanner to a linux
>machine.  Will it work?  Any suggestions on software for using it?  Does
>Windoze NT support USB?

        You can get a SCSI3 narrow PCI card for $30 these days. So if 
        you haven't already bought the scanner, there's no particular
        reason to be restricted to USB.

        Several scanners are well supported currently. www.linux-usb.org
        will have the full list. However, if you are trying to be cheap
        you can get older 300dpi SCSI scanner for ~$60.

-- 

  Stealing a rhinoceros should not be attempted lightly.

  We don't smoke and we don't chew, and we don't go with girls that do.
                -- Walter Summers

  Little girls, like butterflies, need no excuse.
                -- Lazarus Long

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kresimir Marzic)
Subject: Re: 3com509b problem
Date: 5 Oct 2000 18:41:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rob van der Putten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kresimir Marzic wrote:
> 
> > Try it as module. I have in my /etc/modules.conf file:
> > alias eth0 3c509
> > options eth0 irq=7
> 
> The printer port uses irq 7.

It works for me. How can I check which port uses printer?

-- 
  Kresimir Marzic
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Matt Fuerst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Compaq Deskpro 6000 MP System
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:49:19 -0400

Greetings,

I just won an auction for a machine that is described as a Compaq 6000.
It has a Pentium Pro 200 MHz chip installed, along with various other
goodies (SCSI, Desktop Case, 32 MB of RAM, 2.5 GB HDD). I haven't been
able to find much good information on this unit thus far but wil llikely
have more infor once it gets to me anyways.

Has anyone tried setting up Linux on such a machine? I understand that
there is a second processor slot on the motherboard and I am definetly
going to install a second processor as soon as I get my hands on the
machine. I understand that the Penitum Pro line requires the same speed
chip along with the same set of stepping information. Simple enough,
there seems to be tons of PPro chips on ebay for relatively cheap
prices. However, I also thought that the Pentium Pro Socket 8 had some
funky requirements, something like a mounting bracket and exhaust
system? Is that just my fuzzy memory? Basically, what else, other than
the CPU, will I need to install a second processor into this machine?
Any experiences? Any recommendations on where to get such things?
(Obviously spending $100 on cooling the machine might be silly with the
processors going for $30 each now-a-days).

Does anyone have any experience with the various incarnations of cache
sizes and how they relate to Linux? My current rig has a sole 200 MHz
256K chip but the units are cheap enough that I could get dual 200 MHz 1
Meg chips... worth it? I am likely going to be installing Mandrake on
the machine, using it for general dekstop purposes during the day, and
log out of X and have it runnig as a Counter-Strike server durikng the
nights (it's a game, like Quake). I am sure the answers might be
different depending on the usage, so I figured I would mention that.

Any other experiences? Are you happy? I would love to hear form people
with this machine specifically.. I have tons of questions (SCSI is built
in, my unit doesn't have a CD-ROM which is not a big deal at all since
none of my linux machines have ever had a CD-ROM since network installs
rock, but.. I have a closetfull of older SCSI CD-ROMs waiting for a
home.. could I install in the unit?)

Thanks so much for any and all input!

Matt Fuerst


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From: "Dr. Stephen S. Kerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATA/100 drives with Linux
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:00:44 +0000 (UTC)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks Adam.  It would be great to know if you can use the
> ATA/100 drive as your primary (boot) drive, and if you had to do
> anything special to get things to work (at all/at full speed/at full
> capacity/etc).  Also, what drive are you using?

The size of the partitions on the drive might be an issue, but I don't
think the speed will be.  Just make sure that the partition on which
you place the kernel does not go beyond the first 1024 cylinders on the
drive.  (Note these are logical cylinders, so LBA mode would let you get
away with a larger boot partition.)  Many BIOSes can't boot the kernel
if any part of it lies beyond the 1024'th cylinder on the drive.  Once
you have booted up, you can access pretty much any partition size you want
(I forget the current maximum, but it's huge, something like 130 GB?)

To get the best possible performance from the drive, you would need to
configure your BIOS and the kernel to support Ultra DMA, assuming your
motherboard can support it.  Check the Linux Ultra DMA Mini-HOWTO for
details.  (e.g., http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/mini/Ultra-DMA.html)

> Thanks for the help -> Nick

> In article <DqXB5.590$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> An ATA/100 drive shouldn't pose a problem. Mine is ATA/100
> (although
>> admittedly it is currently sitting on an older IDE channel which
> doesn't
>> support the improvements). I'm going to try it on one of the RAID
> channels
>> on my machine (which do support ATA/100). I'll let you know how
> it goes.
>>
>> Adam


> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 15:19:14 -0400
From: stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: aureal sound device and compiling kernel

you are correct. it is an 8830 based card. i'll try it again. thanks.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems with my ATX Keyboard
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:31:51 GMT

Hello, I'm using both Windows and Linux but the problem is the same:
I can't use my keyboard (after a short period that I use it). It's a
new model, that one which has ATX keys and my computer is a PII 266 .
Linux tells me that my keyboard send too much NACK. 
Can anybody help me? 
Thanks!

Max

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (user)
Subject: Re: -  Installing Iomaga Tape 250 Drive
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:47:26 -0000

Ted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Dear All,
: I have an Iomega 250 tape drive which is connected as the second drive
: on the floppy disk controller.  I am not clear how to install this into
: Linux.  I am running Mandrake 7.0.  The HowTo seems to say that the
: ftape support is compiled into the kernel, but if I try to access the
: drive with a command such as mt I get the message that /dev/ftape does
: not exist.
: I need to do something to get Linux to recognise the drive, but I can't
: figure out what I have to do.  Can anyone help?
: Ted
: 

Ted,
   I get the same problem using an old Colorado Jumbo 250 (QIC-80 250 MB) tape drive
hooked up to the floppy controller.

   And I do not have a good answer yet, so let me know when you find one...

   This used to work on older versions of Linux, 2.0.xx kernels and before.

   I am now using  the 2.2.17 kernel.

   It appears that the kernel is not recognizing the second floppy drive
on the tape controller.

   A character device with major number 27 should be created when the
kernel starts up and begins to recognize hardware.

   When doing a "cat /proc/devices" however, no number 27 appears....

   The floppy disk drive (block device) works fine though.

   The FAQs are not too helpful on this issue:
        /usr/src/Linux-2.2.17/Documentation/ftape.txt
        http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Ftape-HOWTO.html

   It looks like the only solution for now is to use an old version of linux, one
before the current 2.2.xx kernels...

-Rick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
Now and then an innocent person is sent to the legislature.

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From: Steve Feil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Difference between voice modem and telephony card?
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:35:01 -0500

I'm thinking about buying a card for my computer, but I don't know if
I want a voice modem or a telephony card, because I don't know the
difference is between the two.  Here is a least of features I may be
interested in Can you tell me which are supported on voice modems and
which are supported for telephony cards.

receive calls
make calls
digitize audio
play digitized audio
generate MF tones (key tones)
detect MF tones (key tones)

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 Steven Feil           | Gram-pa, back at the turn of the      .~. 
 Programmer/Developer  | century, why did people use an        /V\ 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]          | operating system, when they were not // \\
                       | allowed to see the source code?      (X_X)
====================================================================

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 15:58:07 -0400
From: Larry Ebbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Optra 40 setup

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I've got a Lexmark optra 40, which is working ok as a text printer
> using lpr and the 'generic' slackware/bsd /etc/printcap.  I've looked at
> the howto's and around the web to find what I need to print
> postscript, but haven't found anything that nails it down.
> 
> Anyone with this printer have it printing postscript?  What do I need
> to print postscript via a shell script?

 My Optra 40 works very well with the generic PS printcap on RH6.1.

-- 
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta

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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Promise UltraATA/100
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:17:10 GMT

shane wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Oct 2000 04:07:01 GMT, "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I want to install Redhat 7 on my brand spanking new machine which has an
> >Asus A7V mobo and my HDD is hooked up to the Promise UltraATA100 connectors.
> >Does RedHat 7 support this offhand? And If not where can I download drivers
> >so that I can install it?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Frank
>
> I just installed redhat7 on my server at home. I've got a SIIG udma66
> and a Promise Ultra100 in it.
>
> The install recognized the SIIG, but not the Promise card:
>
> AEC6210: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 70
> AEC6210: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> AEC6210: ROM enabled at 0xfebf8000
>     ide2: BM-DMA at 0xef50-0xef57, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
>     ide3: BM-DMA at 0xef58-0xef5f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
>
> It looks as though Redhat did not apply the ide kernel patches
> so that an initial install will recognize the Promise.
> If I'm correct about this, I'm severely disappointed with them.
>
> I'm trying to compile a fresh 2.2.16 or 2.2.17 on it now, and
> I'm getting tons of errors trying to make bzImage with
> either - whether patched with the ide patches or not.

That is the correct (but somewhat cryptic) boot message from the ide patch.  At
least that is what I get after building a v. 2.2.16 Kernel with the patch
installed.

However, it is my understanding that you will not get DMA 100 support unless you
use the new v 2.4 Kernel.  But, DMA 66 should work.

Are you trying to patch the source that came with Red Hat 7.  Don't.  Down load
what you want from:  http://www.kernel.org/

I assume that you can't use the drive.  Exactly what happens?

Does your "lilo.conf" file have the global parameter "linear" in it?

JRT




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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq Deskpro 6000 MP System
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:13:16 -0700

Hi there,

I don't have SMP mashine and never had experience with it but I read that
it is
very recommended to buy CPU in pair for SMP mashine as they can have
a little diffrent charcteristcs and it will time to time crash your system.

I should be more precise and say that they recomend to buy CPU with one
part number. I don't know how it changed but as time going it could happend

that more CPU can work each together and this info outdated.
   Abou SCSI CDROM - yes you can connect any and it will work. But it is
more question about SCSI card - Is it supported or not? The matter of the
fact
is that a lot SCSI cards  will works under Linux without any tricks but
some of them will not work at all or will work unreliable. Good example is
SCSI cards which sold with scanners - only few works and normaly you
have to buy another supported SCSI card.
   32MB RAM is not not enough for something serios on Linux as you all
time will go into swap and if your HDD will slow your system will responce
very slow.  I recommend to increase RAM atleast to 64MB or better to 128MB
and may be get promice ATA100 controller and ATA100 HDD.
    If you plan use it to play games like Quake you will need very well
supported
Graphic Card which support 3D hardware acceleration under Linux. I am in
big
doubt that you will get such card in you computer. But if you will happy
with
what you will get you can leave it as it is.

Andrey



Matt Fuerst wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I just won an auction for a machine that is described as a Compaq 6000.
> It has a Pentium Pro 200 MHz chip installed, along with various other
> goodies (SCSI, Desktop Case, 32 MB of RAM, 2.5 GB HDD). I haven't been
> able to find much good information on this unit thus far but wil llikely
> have more infor once it gets to me anyways.
>
> Has anyone tried setting up Linux on such a machine? I understand that
> there is a second processor slot on the motherboard and I am definetly
> going to install a second processor as soon as I get my hands on the
> machine. I understand that the Penitum Pro line requires the same speed
> chip along with the same set of stepping information. Simple enough,
> there seems to be tons of PPro chips on ebay for relatively cheap
> prices. However, I also thought that the Pentium Pro Socket 8 had some
> funky requirements, something like a mounting bracket and exhaust
> system? Is that just my fuzzy memory? Basically, what else, other than
> the CPU, will I need to install a second processor into this machine?
> Any experiences? Any recommendations on where to get such things?
> (Obviously spending $100 on cooling the machine might be silly with the
> processors going for $30 each now-a-days).
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the various incarnations of cache
> sizes and how they relate to Linux? My current rig has a sole 200 MHz
> 256K chip but the units are cheap enough that I could get dual 200 MHz 1
> Meg chips... worth it? I am likely going to be installing Mandrake on
> the machine, using it for general dekstop purposes during the day, and
> log out of X and have it runnig as a Counter-Strike server durikng the
> nights (it's a game, like Quake). I am sure the answers might be
> different depending on the usage, so I figured I would mention that.
>
> Any other experiences? Are you happy? I would love to hear form people
> with this machine specifically.. I have tons of questions (SCSI is built
> in, my unit doesn't have a CD-ROM which is not a big deal at all since
> none of my linux machines have ever had a CD-ROM since network installs
> rock, but.. I have a closetfull of older SCSI CD-ROMs waiting for a
> home.. could I install in the unit?)
>
> Thanks so much for any and all input!
>
> Matt Fuerst


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From: Julien du payrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: adaptec AVA-2902E/I scsi card
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:30:55 GMT


Hello,

I try to have a CD writer working. It's connected to a Adaptec
AVA-2902E/I scsi card.

I've tried to recompile my kernel 2.2.16 with scsi support but my card
isn't detected at bootup. 

Do you know if that card is supported under linux.

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From: Alejandro Guirao Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple Monitors in Mandrake 7.1-anybody tried ?
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:50:08 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you want to know if your hardware is supported or to update the newest
Xfree86 version
take a look at http://www.xfree86.org  before buying ;-)
To make a proper configuration file you can run "xf86config" for both cards
and copy the relevant
device sections.
The "Insert Clock lines here"  is usually not needed, it is a comment written
by xf86config
so don't worry about it.

    good luck
       Alex


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Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq Deskpro 6000 MP System
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 05 Oct 2000 17:10:44 -0400

Matt Fuerst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Greetings,
> 
> I just won an auction for a machine that is described as a Compaq 6000.
> It has a Pentium Pro 200 MHz chip installed, along with various other
> goodies (SCSI, Desktop Case, 32 MB of RAM, 2.5 GB HDD). I haven't been
> able to find much good information on this unit thus far but wil llikely
> have more infor once it gets to me anyways.

It is almost certainly not a Deskpro, but a Proliant.  Deskpros are
worthless garbage; Proliants are good for some things.

> Has anyone tried setting up Linux on such a machine? I understand that
> there is a second processor slot on the motherboard and I am definetly
> going to install a second processor as soon as I get my hands on the
> machine. I understand that the Penitum Pro line requires the same speed
> chip along with the same set of stepping information. 

If the stepping is the same, so will the CPU speed and cache size.
(PPro has onboard cache; it's roughly analagous to the Xeon chips.
You can get chips with caches of up to 1MB on PPros, I think.)

Name-brand servers (Compaq, IBM, ALR) are picky about chip speed and
cache size.  Lots will only accept the type of chip they shipped
with.

> Simple enough, there seems to be tons of PPro chips on ebay for
> relatively cheap prices. 

Chips with a 1MB cache run $250 or more.  Chips with a 256KB chip run
about $60.

> However, I also thought that the Pentium Pro Socket 8 had some funky
> requirements, something like a mounting bracket and exhaust system?

Dunno.  It's basically a socket 7 CPU, but longer on one side.  A
regular S7 CPU fan will, I think, fit properly on the heat sink.  You
should be sure to get a chip WITH a heat sink, though, as the chip's
unusual size makes them moderately inconvenient to come by.  (There
are hundreds for sale on eBay, though.)

> Is that just my fuzzy memory? Basically, what else, other than the
> CPU, will I need to install a second processor into this machine?

Probably nothing.  You may need to buy a new CPU board, but you may
not.

> Any experiences? Any recommendations on where to get such things?
> (Obviously spending $100 on cooling the machine might be silly with
> the processors going for $30 each now-a-days).

$30 each?  Christ, where have you seen that price?  I overpaid for
mine, but that's simply because I needed two matching CPUs and felt
the extra $10 or so was worth saving my time; but $30??

> Does anyone have any experience with the various incarnations of cache
> sizes and how they relate to Linux? My current rig has a sole 200 MHz
> 256K chip but the units are cheap enough that I could get dual 200 MHz 1
> Meg chips... worth it? 

Good Lord.  Again I ask, where are you buying them?  Last I checked -
maybe two months ago - the 200/1MB chips were literally going for over
$200.  I saw one guy pay $275 for a SINGLE USED CPU!

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kernel hangs while accessing IDE disk
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 23:41:34 +0200

dev 03:0b (hda) means disk /dev/hda9 or /dev/hda11 (I think ?)
Your problem is perhaps with a swap partition.
Can you give the fstab details ? 
How many IDE drives are installed ?
Perhaps your disk jumper configuration isn't correct ?

Pierre Habraken wrote:
> 
> Since I have upgraded my linux box with RH 6.2 and kernel update
> 2.2.16-3 (compiled for i686), I get errors from the ide driver which
> make the kernel freeze.
> This happens after having worked one hour or less. I then have to turn
> off and on the power switch. During the next boot sequence, fsck detects
> some errors which it can't fix every times.
> I don't know if there is some relation, but this began after I tried to
> turn on dma using hdparm -d 1.
> 
> When the error happens, all processes look blocked and the kernel
> displays endless messages onto the console :
> ========================================================================
> ide0: reset timed-out, status=0x80
> hda: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
> hda: drive not ready for command
> ide0: reset timed-out, status=0x80
> hda: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
> end_request: I/O error, dev 03:0b (hda), sector 4408
> ...
> ========================================================================
> 
> (...) 
> I would really appreciate any help or advice.

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From: Kurt Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Visor and USB
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:07:00 GMT

I'm very confused.  I've been reading all of these messages and web
pages about getting the Handspring Visor to work with USB and Linux. 
I've download the 2.2.16 kernel.  I've got the back-port.  I even tried
the 2.2.17 kernel.  One thing I've noticed.  No matter where I go, or
what I do, I'm always missing the usb-serial.c from linux/drivers/usb/. 
What did I miss?  Why can't I find this all important piece of code for
any of the 2.2.x kernels that so many people seem to be having good luck
with?


Thanks,

Kurt Schneider

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