Linux-Hardware Digest #93, Volume #14 Thu, 28 Dec 00 05:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Looking for Video card recomendation (RickB)
Re: Running linux on 486 (Lew Pitcher)
guillemot maxi studio isis soundcard and linux ("Marty")
Re: power.. (James Stafford)
Re: Running linux on 486 (James Stafford)
Re: PCI configuration in Linux 2.2.18 : IRQ assignment? (Julie Brandon)
Re: PCI configuration in Linux 2.2.18 : IRQ assignment? (Julie Brandon)
Re: Performance difference between UDMA33 and UDMA66 (Julie Brandon)
ASUS 7100 DVI and SGI 1600SW, success (Oliver Stahlhut)
Re: Performance difference between UDMA33 and UDMA66 (moonie;))
Re: Error bringing up interface eth0 (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Error bringing up interface eth0 (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: 4GB Ram in redhat7.0 (Harri Haataja)
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From: RickB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for Video card recomendation
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 07:37:09 GMT
Had same experience this weekend, Install failed on 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0,
since I was not up to hacking a workaround I exchanged the card for a
VooDoo3000, no compatability probs at all.
RickB
Jakob Strebel wrote:
>
> I tried to install SuSE 7.0 on my new assembled PC, which comes with
> X4.01. My vendor gave me a Matrox G450 Video card.
> I was a bit skeptical using such new card, however a quick check under
> XF86free 4.01 showed that the 450 is supported in Beta stadium.
>
> The Installation from the CD fails after I see (very shortly) the last
> messages on the screen where it probes the video Hardware.
> I get a message OUT OF RANGE on the screen. (just for clarification,
> this is at the very beginning before the system I am booting for the
> CD asks me any question)
>
> Taking a REDHAT 6.2 CD ended with the same result.
> I am considering to bring the cards back and change it for a G400.
> Browsing trough the XFfree I saw that cards from other vendors like
> ATI, Nvidia and ASUS seem to have better "3D" support
>
> Question:
> who on this list is using one of the following cards
>
> ATI XPERT 2000
> Asus 6xxx or 7xxx
> NVidia
> ELSA
>
> Please give me a quick advise with a recommendation. Thanks for your
> valuable time
>
> My Hardware:
> ASUS A7V, AMD Thunderbird 800, 128M
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running linux on 486
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:32:28 -0500
James Stafford wrote:
>
> sik wrote:
> >
> > Actually.. I'm not planning on even using Gnome or KDE.. or any other
> > gui.... do you know if there is any linux distro that is small enough
> > that i could download and fit on a couple of floppies?
> >
> > >> Hi.. I posted a few days ago about not being able to get linux started
> > >> on my old 486 when i installed it on this comp (with cdrom) and
> > >> transferred the hd back... i got it to start, but now i've come up
> > >> with a problem that i thought i would prob get... i get a kernal panic
> > >> becuase it was compiled for a pentium, and i'm trying to run it on a
> > >> 486.. is there anyway to recompile it without starting it? .. or to
> > >> change the kernal on this comp? or is my only option getting a cdrom
> > >> and installing it from the 486? .. Thanks for any help!
> The first time I ever used Linux was on a 486 DX2 50. I used Slackware,
Up to a week ago, I ran Slackware linux on a 486DX4/80 w 16M ram and a
6G hd. Used it as my file/network server (Samba/NFS file sharing,
dial-on-demand/IP Masq internet access). It's upgraded now (such as it
is) to a Cyrix 6x86/133 w 64M ram (and the same 6G hd).
> still use it too. I don't know if Slackware comes precompiled for a
> Pentium or not.
Slackware comes precompiled for a 386; it can be installed on any x86
(or compatable) cpu.
> If memory serves me right, it asks what type of
> processor you have during install.
I don't remember that, and I've installed Slack3.0, Slack 3.3, and
Slack7.0. Could it be something in the Slack7.1 install?
> I could be wrong about that. As soon
> as I copy the rest of my hard drives to cdr I'm going to install the
> lastest Slackware, so I guess I'll find out.
>
> Just a slacker,
>
> jamess
> --
> "On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
> it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
>
> -Anonymous
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576
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From: "Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: guillemot maxi studio isis soundcard and linux
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:34:05 +0100
Hi!
does anybody have the maxi studio isis Soundcard by guillemot and knows if
there are
any drivers so it'll work under linux?
if not WHO CAN MAKE ONE!!!
thanx there!
Marty
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From: James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: power..
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:43:54 GMT
Mark Post wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:36:05 GMT, "eftech_1-=-"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >i have a 230 watt power supply, someone said to me that it wasnt that much
> >power, but i havent seen any power supplies with much more. i have an abit
> >board, cd drive, burner, zip, floppy, atlon heatsink, fan, and an extra
> >cooling fan. do you think i need any more power? and does having more/extra
> >power help the system run bettter or faster? thanks in advance.
>
> 230W should be sufficient for needs. Better or faster? More reliably, if
> anything, but I doubt you need more than you have.
>
> Mark Post
>
> Postmodern Consulting
> Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
> To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
I have a 200 watt power supply and I have the following:
9 gig IBM SCSI uw hared drive, 2 gig Segate uw SCSI harddrive, 2 gig
Quantum SCSI II hard drive, cd burner, floppy, NIC, 16 MB Nvida video
card, extra cooling fan, cpu cooling fan.
I have not experienced any probelms so far. The only reason I use this
case is because it is so cool, and I got it free. When I first got the
case I called a computer store to see about upgrading the power supply
to 300 watt. The computer store said that shouldn't be any need since
today's computer equipment uses little power.
I just got the cdr this weekend and have burned 13 CDs. The only bad CD
I've gotten so far is because I reached my hand in the case to see if
the fan was keeping the cd burner cool (I read on the net that Yamha cd
burners get real hot). I touched the SCSI cable and it caused the cd
burner to eject the disk before it was completely burned.
So I would assume it would be safe to say that you should be fine.
jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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From: James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running linux on 486
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:49:49 GMT
Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
> > still use it too. I don't know if Slackware comes precompiled for a
> > Pentium or not.
>
> Slackware comes precompiled for a 386; it can be installed on any x86
> (or compatable) cpu.
>
> > If memory serves me right, it asks what type of
> > processor you have during install.
>
> I don't remember that, and I've installed Slack3.0, Slack 3.3, and
> Slack7.0. Could it be something in the Slack7.1 install?
>
> --
> Lew Pitcher
>
> Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
> Registered Linux User #112576
I am probablly wrong, it is probablly like you said, it installs for
386. Then when you compile the kernel you compile for the type of
prcessor you have. It has been so long since I've done an install, going
to college leaves little time. Now that I have a month off between
semesters I plan on upgrading.
keep on computin',
jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie Brandon)
Subject: Re: PCI configuration in Linux 2.2.18 : IRQ assignment?
Date: 28 Dec 2000 09:09:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 02:07:21 +0000, Chris Rankin (au.com.zipworld@{no.spam}rankinc)
said:
>Hi,
>I have an old Pentium 90 PC with one PCI slot free, and I am trying to
>replace the old 28.8 Kbps ISA modem with a modern 56 Kbps PCI modem. The
>new modem will *have* to work in both Linux 2.2.18 and Windows 95.
>
>I have read the Plug-and-Play HOWTO. I also appreciate that I *could*
>use a 56 Kbps external modem at a pinch, except that I have enough plugs
>and adapters on my single power-point as it is. One more would cross the
>line from crazy to dangerous.
I know what you mean about setpci & the INTERRUPT_LINE thing. I think that
in the case of the interrupt registers, you need to do more than just write
to that register to get it to have any effect (I seem to recall
from some reading last night that you're supposed to ask the BIOS to
do some work on it after playing with that register?) But anyway, ignoring
that, 'cos I don't think it's really relevant anyway actually....
Now, admittedly I didn't read your posts too closely (as it's early, I
didn't sleep to well, and I'm not with it, and any other excuses you can put
here) so please forgive me if I've missed something -- but I think you're
possibly making this more complicated than it needs to be?
Did you know that you can share IRQs between PCI devices? Both under Linux
and Windows (the later depending on your motherboard drivers though)?
You can't share IRQs with ISA cards because of the physical electrical
conflicts - but I gather with the PCI the electrical handling of interrupts
is different and hence the same interrupt can be asserted by different PCI
cards without electrical conflicts... so as long as drivers are written
appropriately to handle shared interrupts there should be no problems with
such sharing, and Linux appears to be well behaved in this respect!
i.e. from our machine-
"
Bus 0, device 16, function 0:
Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Bt848 (rev 18). Medium devsel.
Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 9. Master Capable. Latency=128. Min
Gnt=16.Max Lat=40. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf1eff000
[0xf1eff008].
Bus 0, device 18, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Unknown device (rev 1). Vendor id=121a.
Device id=5. Fast devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 9.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf2000000 [0xf2000000].
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xea000000 [0xea000008]. I/O at 0x7800
[0x7801].
Bus 0, device 20, function 0:
Serial controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 0). Vendor
id=14db. Device id=2130. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable.
IRQ 9. I/O at 0x7c50 [0x7c51]. I/O at 0x7c58 [0x7c59].
"
So that's three PCI cards- a bttv TV card, our Voodoo 3 video card & our
dual high-speed serial card, all happily sharing the same IRQ under Linux
and not conflicting with each-other or otherwise noticeably degrading
each-others performance.
However, in the case of at least kernel v2.2.17 (haven't gone up to v2.2.18
yet -- give me a chance) the serial driver isn't quite up to PCI, so to get
the above working neatly (i.e. sharing IRQs with other devices and no nasty
side effects) required fitting the latest serial driver in works from ...
<URL:http://serial.sourceforge.net/>
... which now handles cards PCI. It can be compiled seperately from the
kernel, or you can choose to allow it to pop itself rather neatly in to the
regular kernel source (which is what I did.)
Keep in mind that when it comes to PCI modems, if you want it to work under
Linux, that you *MUST* be sure that the modem you're getting really *IS* a
*FULL* hardware modem that presents in *hardware* what looks to Linux like a
*regular serial UART* (i.e. a 16550, 16650, etc.) -- I understand that most
PCI modems are versions of software modems!
The serial card in our system that I mentioned above I only recently
installed, and hence only recently installed the Linux PCI serial driver --
and actually did a lot of reading up and a bit of hacking (as I wanted
to get it switching automatically between low-speed/compatibility
mode and high-speed.) So as such, I've been playing around with this
stuff recently, and also happen to have a bit of free time at present, so do
give me a shout before & after you make your purchase if you'd appreciate
a hand?
Take care.
Ta-ra,
--
Julie Brandon, Derby, UK
<URL:http://www.computergeeks.co.uk/>
+++ See homepage for details of my present E-Bay auctions +++
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie Brandon)
Subject: Re: PCI configuration in Linux 2.2.18 : IRQ assignment?
Date: 28 Dec 2000 09:12:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:38:02 -0700, D. Stimits ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>PCI card irq can be altered with setpci. See also lspci.
Any clues how? *8-) I was playing with setpci last night and for the life
of me couldn't get it to change the IRQ! (Tried writing to the
INTERRUPT_(LINE|PIN) registers with absolutely no result.) I'd like to try
shifting my PCI serial card's IRQ to a less busy one.
Ta-ra,
--
Julie Brandon, Derby, UK
<URL:http://www.computergeeks.co.uk/>
+++ See homepage for details of my present E-Bay auctions +++
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie Brandon)
Subject: Re: Performance difference between UDMA33 and UDMA66
Date: 28 Dec 2000 09:22:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 06:50:30 +0100, Markus Kossmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>To see a difference , you will probably need a IDE drive of the latest
>generation ( i.e WD400BB or IBM DTLA ) which is fast enough to saturate
^^^^^^^^
>UDMA 33 .
Interesting...
/dev/hda:
Model=IBM-DTLA-307030, FwRev=TX4GA50C, SerialNo=YK0YKF23349
^^^^^^^^
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=40
BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=1916kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off
DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=2(fast), DMA=yes, maxDMA=2(fast)
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=-66060037, LBA=yes
LBA CHS=1023/256/63 Remapping, LBA=yes, LBAsects=60036480
tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 mword2
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4
UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 *mode2
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 02)
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr+ Stepping-
SERR+ FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 32 set
Region 0: Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 1.0
Status: RQ=31 SBA+ 64bit- FW- Rate=21
Command: RQ=31 SBA+ AGP- 64bit- FW- Rate=21
00:02.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) (prog-if 80)
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping-
SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 32 set
Region 4: I/O ports at fff0
So does this mean that our bus is now likely to be the limiting factor of
our HD transfers? If so, anything we can do with our present hardware
(as above- Intel 440BX chipset on a IBM300PL) to improve things?
I have to admit, we haven't been using the new HD for long enough for me to
have gotten around to doing the usual hdparm speed tests yet to have
considered such matters.
Ta-ra,
--
Julie Brandon, Derby, UK
<URL:http://www.computergeeks.co.uk/>
+++ See homepage for details of my present E-Bay auctions +++
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From: Oliver Stahlhut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: ASUS 7100 DVI and SGI 1600SW, success
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:44:12 +0100
Hi there!
As some people are interested in success stories concerning the SGI
1600SW Flatpanel, I thought I should mail my (working) configuration:
* ASUS 7100 GeForce2 MX graphics with DVI connector
* SGI 1600SW flatpanel (res: 1600x1024)
* SGI multilink box (MLA) - you need this for a DVI connection
* SuSE Linux 7.0 with XFree86 4.0.1 and NVidia drivers (nvidia.o kernel
module)
Here is the magic modeline (it's the same that is used for the Number
Nine Revolution card ...):
Modeline "1600x1024" 103.125 1600 1600 1656 1664 1024 1024 1029 1030
During and after the boot process / Linux installation the screen is a
bit messed up with missing lines, "ghost" pictures, etc. but it's o.k.
for the console mode and boot messages, etc. - that means text is
readable ;) ... but the 1600x1024 resolution is fantastic - well, and
that's the reason we bought the panel, isn't it ?
Hope this helps others to get a cool setup, too ;)
Oliver
-- =
/*
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Institut f=FCr Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
und Informationsverarbeitung (TNT)
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tnt.uni-hannover.de/~stahlhut/
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Performance difference between UDMA33 and UDMA66
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 04:55:23 -0500
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Maxim wrote:
>Wow, I'd like to know it before I bought this UDMA66 controller card. Fortunately,
>it's just $20. What is then
>the difference between ATA/33 and ATA/66 HDs?
>
>Maxim
You have to have one to use the ATA/66 bus. While the previous posters were
correct in that you won't see any benefit to ATA/66 with a single drive, I do
see a HUGE difference because I use RAID on my ATA/66 bus. My transfer rates
for my HD's are 19.5mb/s and 22mb/s. The transfer rates for my RAID arrays are
around 39mb/s. If I only had ATA/33 bus I would be limited to the max
throughput of the controller (33mb/s)
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
(Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
ICQ #83003404
AIM mooniesdl3
MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Error bringing up interface eth0
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:53:10 GMT
"Jonathan S. Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>"Bill Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > via-rhine.c:v1.08 6/24/2000 Written by Donald Becker
>> > http://www.scyld.com/network/via-rhine.html
>> > eth0: VIA VT3043 Rhine at 0x9400, 00:50:ba:e7:fe:4b, IRQ 0.
>>
>>
>> "0"???? I'd say that might be a problem.
>Good point! However, doesn't IRQ 0 sometimes mean "auto-detect"?
[...]
No. It always means "no IRQ assigned".
Michael
--
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Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Error bringing up interface eth0
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:52:20 GMT
[Note FollowUp-To: header]
Bill Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>"Jonathan S. Joseph" wrote:
>>
[...]
>> via-rhine.c:v1.08 6/24/2000 Written by Donald Becker
>> http://www.scyld.com/network/via-rhine.html
>> eth0: VIA VT3043 Rhine at 0x9400, 00:50:ba:e7:fe:4b, IRQ 0.
^^^^^^
>> eth0: MII PHY found at address 8, status 0x782d advertising 05e1 Link 0000.
>>
>There are diagnostic utilities for your card at
>http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html
Not needed in this case. It is a typical "PNP-OS = Yes" error.
Change the BIOS settings to non-PNP OS.
(sigh)
A quick glance at deja.com would have given you this in seconds.
Michael
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Subject: Re: 4GB Ram in redhat7.0
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:09:19 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I am installing Redhat7.0 system with 4GB of Ram. After
>installation,System reports only 64MB. If I go to the kernel, I can see
>option for only 2GB of Ram. Any idea how I can make redhat7.0 work with
>4GB Ram? Do I need to upgrade the kernel? Please help
Since it cuts at 64M you probably need the mem=... option in boot. RTFM.
As for the 4G, I'm not sure where the limit goes but if you hit it, try
the kernel-enterprise package instead.
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