Linux-Hardware Digest #428, Volume #14 Fri, 2 Mar 01 15:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Win98, Win2000 & Linux on 1 HD. Any way to share files? (Curtis Newton)
Re: Harddisk suggestion ~ (Allen Crider)
Re: Win98, Win2000 & Linux on 1 HD. Any way to share files? ("Garry Heaton")
Linux, Laptop & Wireless Network (Geoff Stamper)
Re: Big Drive, Reluctant BIOS, how to work around? ("g.montgomery")
Re: Win98, Win2000 & Linux on 1 HD. Any way to share files? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Harddisk performance ("charles")
Re: CDROM on ide1 not seen ("charles")
Re: Harddisk performance ("Shep�)
Re: CDROM on ide1 not seen (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Re: Harddisk performance ("Walter Clayton")
Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? (Jonathan Buzzard)
Re: Trident 9660 (Arctic Storm)
Re: Best RAID controller for Linux (Hubba Bubba)
Re: Harddisk performance ("Been Around")
Re: Suggestions for basic but very fast MP math machine... ("N. G.")
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From: Curtis Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98, Win2000 & Linux on 1 HD. Any way to share files?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:17:02 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:54:42 -0000, "Garry Heaton"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have Win98 on a primary DOS partition, Win2000 on an extended DOS
>partition and Linux on free space. Unfortunately my modem is only works with
>Win98 so I can't download to Linux or Win2000. Is there any way of sharing
>files across partitions?
>
>Is SAMBA only for networked computers or can it operate as an interface
>between different partitions/OS's?
>
>Regards
>
>Garry
>
>
You can view your linux partition/files with the following:
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
Within Linux, you can mount the filesystem your files on are (i.e.
mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /mnt/disk -- for the exact /dev/hd??, check
dmesg) and view your windows files.
-
--
===================================
Curtis Newton
cnewton<remove-me>@akamail.com
http://mypage.org/cnewton
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Due to USENET spamming, I had to modify
my reply to email address.
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From: Allen Crider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Harddisk suggestion ~
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:21:33 -0800
Lee Hung Chiu wrote:
> Dear All
>
> i am going to build a linux system that mainly provide FTP and HTTP
> service ~ maxium user will about 30 person/time . Which kind of harddisk
> ide or scsi should i consider ? pls suggest ~
>
>
I think that any new inexpensive ide drive will be fine. Use at least 256mb
of memory and the performance will be nice.
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From: "Garry Heaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98, Win2000 & Linux on 1 HD. Any way to share files?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:27:28 -0000
Thanks, Lew & Curtis. I'm a complete Linux beginner so could you elaborate
as to whether this means I can copy a .tar.gz file downloaded to Win98 over
to Linux and then build in Linux? Conversely can I send copies of
Linux-generated Perl scripts over the partitions to Win98 and Win2000? Win
2000 is on FAT32 which is supposed to be more "visible".
Garry
Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:54:42 -0000, "Garry Heaton"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I have Win98 on a primary DOS partition, Win2000 on an extended DOS
> >partition and Linux on free space. Unfortunately my modem is only works
with
> >Win98 so I can't download to Linux or Win2000. Is there any way of
sharing
> >files across partitions?
>
> Linux can mount FAT16 and FAT32 partitions into it's directory tree
> (mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/msdos)
> for read/write access
> Windows2000 NTFS support is available
> (mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/win2000)
> for readonly access, and the newer kernels support
> read/write access in a beta-level driver.
>
> >Is SAMBA only for networked computers or can it operate as an interface
> >between different partitions/OS's?
>
> Networked computers. The client application sees a "Microsoft
> Networks" file that's really a Linux file at the server. If Samba is
> to access a local file on an MSpartition, it has to use the Linux
> kernel filesystem support.
>
>
> Lew Pitcher
> Information Technology Consultant
> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: Geoff Stamper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.sys.laptops,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Linux, Laptop & Wireless Network
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 13:24:20 -0500
Hello All.
I'm considering buying the linksys wireless router and LAN PC Card
for my Toshiba 2595CDT running RH7.0 (kernel 2.2.16-22). Does
anyone have any experience getting this to work on their laptop
running and distro of linux?
Also, I noticed these run at 2.4GHz - does that interfere with
the new generation of cordless phones? Sorry if that was a dumb
question.
Thanks.
--
Geoff Stamper
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "g.montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Big Drive, Reluctant BIOS, how to work around?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:35:11 GMT
"g.montgomery" wrote:
> D F wrote:
>
> >
> > The only problem that I can see for you is if your BIOS
> > actually hangs during boot. If that's the case, you need a
> > BIOS upgrade.
> >
>
> Right, that's what happens, unless I disable the BIOS
> by putting "None" in for that "HARD DISKS" column
> entry in the standard CMOS setup.
>
Okay, I got it. The problem was that the flash BIOS
file I was using was NOT the latest - my screw-up. I
revisited the Jetway site and found a truly recent
version, downloaded and flashed it, and voila,
everything works!
Thanks to David and Dave for the tips. You guys
had it right from the get-go.
Gene.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Win98, Win2000 & Linux on 1 HD. Any way to share files?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:36:49 GMT
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:27:28 -0000, "Garry Heaton"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks, Lew & Curtis. I'm a complete Linux beginner so could you elaborate
>as to whether this means I can copy a .tar.gz file downloaded to Win98 over
>to Linux and then build in Linux? Conversely can I send copies of
>Linux-generated Perl scripts over the partitions to Win98 and Win2000? Win
>2000 is on FAT32 which is supposed to be more "visible".
You could download from the internet to Win98 or Win2000 (assuming
that, as you said, Win2000 uses FAT32), then start Linux up, 'mount'
the FAT32 partition, and read the file from Linux. This works both
ways, so you could also write a file from Linux to a FAT32 partition,
shutdown and reboot into Win98 or Win2K and read the file. One note:
Linux terminates text lines with a '\n' (ASCII LINEFEED), while
MSWindows terminates text lines with '\r\n' (ASCII CARRIAGE-RETURN
followed by ASCII LINEFEED). To transfer text files, you will need to
massage the data into a format acceptable to the target system.
I believe Curtis mentioned that there is a program (explore2fs) that
can access your Linux partition while you are running Win98 or Win2k.
This program (I use it on my dual boot sysetm) will let you do the
same sort of transfer from the MSWindows side. A caveat though: this
is riskier than using the Linux tools; MSWindows isn't built to easily
accomodate access to 'foreign' file systems, and thus the support has
to be built into a user program instead. There is some risk of data
corruption should the user program crash, or otherwise be misdirected,
as is common in the MSWindows environment. I don't use explore2fs to
write to Linux, only to read from Linux.
>Garry
>
>Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:54:42 -0000, "Garry Heaton"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I have Win98 on a primary DOS partition, Win2000 on an extended DOS
>> >partition and Linux on free space. Unfortunately my modem is only works
>with
>> >Win98 so I can't download to Linux or Win2000. Is there any way of
>sharing
>> >files across partitions?
>>
>> Linux can mount FAT16 and FAT32 partitions into it's directory tree
>> (mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/msdos)
>> for read/write access
>> Windows2000 NTFS support is available
>> (mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/win2000)
>> for readonly access, and the newer kernels support
>> read/write access in a beta-level driver.
>>
>> >Is SAMBA only for networked computers or can it operate as an interface
>> >between different partitions/OS's?
>>
>> Networked computers. The client application sees a "Microsoft
>> Networks" file that's really a Linux file at the server. If Samba is
>> to access a local file on an MSpartition, it has to use the Linux
>> kernel filesystem support.
>>
>>
>> Lew Pitcher
>> Information Technology Consultant
>> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>>
>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>
>>
>> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
>
>
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: "charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.windows98,alt.windows-me,hk.comp.pc,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Subject: Re: Harddisk performance
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:42:40 -0600
Plato <|@|.|> wrote in message news:epwn6.296$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> http://www.bootdisk.com/html.htm
I did a respond to group and the message to which I was
responding "pulled in" the html formating and I couldn't
get rid of it. If there is a way to do this, please explain.
I to use ascii all the time. This time I didn't know how to
get around it.
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From: "charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM on ide1 not seen
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:49:28 -0600
Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > If the IDE cable and the cdrom function correctly in
> > another system, then your secondary IDE channel
> > controller on the motherboard is blown.
>
> That's probably the case: I switched cdrom and hd and booted
> from a floppy, and now the cdrom is seen but the hd not... I will just
> have to buy a longer cable then I can set the cdrom as slave on the
> first ide channle, right?
Yes, but, if the HD is faster technology and the cdrom is slower
technology, the cdrom could slow down the HD when both are
on the same channel.
charles...
Also, make sure one is master and the other is slave. With the
newer bios's it doesn't matter but the conventional configuration
is HD master, CDROM slave. When configuring a computer,
you might want to boot to a floppy or a cdrom but once
configuration is done, going to the HD first in the boot chain
makes start up a little quicker.
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From: "Shep�<:)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.windows98,alt.windows-me,hk.comp.pc,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Subject: Re: Harddisk performance
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 18:55:30 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:21:11 -0600, "charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>The channel will work at the lowest common
>denominator, ATA33.
No It won't if the UDMA drive can live with being an ATA 66/100 80 wire
IDE cable.
Most modern IDE ports will only default to the lower speed drive if both
drives are accessed at the same time and the slower drive will be
ignored in single drive use if the Faster drive is being accessed.As
data can only ever be transferred at the slowest common denominator the
issue only arises when copying files in the case from one drive to the
other and then it's a none issue.For most people with a dual hard drive
setup having them both on the same IDE channel is optimal if the have
their other IDE port taken up by devices like Cdroms.
The least common data transfer action on a home PC is copying from one
drive to another,the most common is copying from a CD to a drive either
to install a program or to,"Burn" cds and therefore it's optimal to have
the hard drive and the CD/s on separate IDE ports to avoid bus transfer
delays and conflicts.
HTH*<:)
>charles....
> I want to install two harddisks in one IDE which supports ATA100.
> If one of the harddisk is ATA100 and the other is ATA33,
> will the former one work slower than that it should be due
> to the latter one?
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM on ide1 not seen
Date: 02 Mar 2001 19:57:03 +0100
"charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, but, if the HD is faster technology and the cdrom is slower
> technology, the cdrom could slow down the HD when both are
> on the same channel.
:-/ and :-(
--
Stefano - Hodie postridie Kalendas Martias MMI est
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From: "Walter Clayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Harddisk performance
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:06:49 -0500
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.windows98,alt.windows-me,hk.comp.pc,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Tools->options->send tab. Clear the check next to "reply to messages using
the format in which they were sent".
--
Walter Clayton Microsoft MVP (MPS-D)
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://members.home.com/dts-l
Want to know where each version of a MS module came from?
Try http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
"charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Plato <|@|.|> wrote in message
news:epwn6.296$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > http://www.bootdisk.com/html.htm
>
> I did a respond to group and the message to which I was
> responding "pulled in" the html formating and I couldn't
> get rid of it. If there is a way to do this, please explain.
> I to use ascii all the time. This time I didn't know how to
> get around it.
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Buzzard)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:16:29 +0000
In article <5Orn6.323669$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[SNIP]
>
> The *latest* FC? It's still 100MB/s in either loop or switched as far as I
> know. Yes/NO? Is there a new FC standard I'm not aware of? Fibre Channel
> is not a protocol-- it's a channel/network standard. It can pass SCSI,
> network, video, etc... SCSI is packaged->sent->and unwrapped on FC adding
> overhead. That's why SCSI, which uses HIPPI (high speed PARALLEL interface)
> can be faster than FC under smaller block I/O circumstances. Disagree?
I have a strong feeling it is upto 200MB/s these days. There was something
on /. a bit ago about picking up the slower speed FC drives for next
to nothing because of the new standard.
JAB.
--
Jonathan A. Buzzard Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northumberland, United Kingdom. Tel: +44(0)1661-832195
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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trident 9660
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:22:33 GMT
> I have one pci video card Trident 9660 (2MB), so in RH7 the
> xconfigurator cann't fire up X with my options 1024x768 16 bit, this say
> that I have error's in my setup, my monitor is a Compaq V55 and
> xcofigurator it recognizes. so the question is someone have any idea?
Amazingly, it's possible that Trident GUI 96xx series is not supported in
XFree86 4.0.2. I have Trident GUI 9680, and the only XFree86 version that
works is 3.x, which comes with RedHat 6.2. There have been several posts
regarding Trident 96xx series and XFree86 4.0.2, but no solution. I've
tried many distributions, without success, if XFree86 4.x is used. Even
FreeBSD works, if you install XFree86 3.x.
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From: Hubba Bubba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.raid
Subject: Re: Best RAID controller for Linux
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:23:37 GMT
Please do tell..... how are you comparing it?
Also, is ther a link to the GDT6513RS? Can't seem to find one
anywhere. Is this an older ICP card?
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 13:20:08 GMT, "Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>GDT6513RS
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From: "Been Around" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Harddisk performance
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:51:38 -0500
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.windows98,alt.windows-me,hk.comp.pc,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Finally...a correct answer!
"Walter Clayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:uUAfFFpoAHA.480@tkmsftngp05...
| Nope.
| EIDE clocks the devices independently. The UDMA-5 device will run at
maximum
| speed. The UDMA-2 device will run at maximum speed.
| What does happen is only one IDE device at a time attached to a given
| channel can be transferring data. The worst thing that happens is the
UDMA-5
| device has to wait for the UDMA-2 device to clear the channel. If there is
| little or no IO activity on the UDMA-2 device, aggregate throughput on the
| UDMA-5 device will be unaffected. If there is heavy IO interleave, then
the
| UDMA-5 device will have longer wait periods, but again, once it has the
| channel, it will transfer full speed.
|
| --
| Walter Clayton Microsoft MVP (MPS-D)
| Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
| http://members.home.com/dts-l
| Want to know where each version of a MS module came from?
| Try http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
|
|
| "Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| news:97mas9$qte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| > They will both run at the slower speed, please don't post in HTML
| > "Jerry Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| > news:97lnos$ljp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| > I want to install two harddisks in one IDE which supports ATA100. If one
| of
| > the harddisk is ATA100 and the other is ATA33, will the former one work
| > slower than that it should be due to the latter one?
| >
| > --
| > http://members.hknet.com/~wong63124
| > (In Chinese Big 5)
| >
| > http://members.hknet.com/~wong63124/linux.htm
| > (In English)
| >
| >
|
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From: "N. G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Suggestions for basic but very fast MP math machine...
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:30:46 -0500
Michael,
IMHO for i386 SMP machines best OS ever made was Solaris x86, in all
aspects. It's a commercial-grade SMP kernel that scales extremely well, and
so far is much better then anything free os's have to offer. So is the
networking implementation, and Sun's optimizing Forte compilers compare to
gcc like a Jaguar compares to a Ford Tauras. For floating point performance
Intel always sucked and ever will, so your only hope lies in megahertz and
large cache - balance between them according to your budget. You shouldn't
buy any infernal undersupported hardware assembled in a basement in Taiwan
such as most integrated motehrboards ). Your other options might be worth
looking into could be either the all-new Sun Blade 100 which has a 500 Mhz
UltraSparc, 128 Megs ram and bout 10 Gig HD space and costs only a $1000, or
a used SGI Octane. My 175 Mhz Octane's floating point is literally 3 times
faster then my 400 Mhz Xeon with 2 Megs cache. Given the Mhz difference it's
very impressive, and especially if you'll find a dual one. And if you got
some real ziti, get a SunBlade 1000 - one of the fastest per buck in the
class. If you need more info - I'll be happy to help.
Thanks
"Michael Hopkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hi all
>
> I am planning to build a very fast but basic machine that will just run
> jobs sent by another UNIX/Linux machine - probably Mac OS X, which is
> BSD underneath...
>
> It will need to have a 100 or 1000 Mbit ethernet card, about 64-128Mb
> fast RAM and some disk storage for the system & dev tools. I am not
> planning to install X or even a video card - this is just for high-speed
> maths computation at the moment.
>
> Any suggestions on processors/motherboards? I'm assuming PIII or P4,
> Athlon, Alpha or IA64 for processors - I don't know about motherboards
> but I want multiple processors (probably), good support for the chosen
> hard disk/ethernet card & >>>***EASY SETUP/RELIABILITY***<<<. :o)
>
> How about the system? Red Hat, Debian, Open/FreeBSD, Mandrake, others?
> Which kernel version is working RELIABLY & supporting fast ethernet &
> multiple processors well?
>
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts/experiences
>
> Mike
>
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