Linux-Hardware Digest #664, Volume #14 Sat, 21 Apr 01 22:13:05 EDT
Contents:
aic7xxx -> Installing RedHat 7.1 with an Adaptec 2940 scsi card ("WarAngel")
Re: today's harddrives will surely fail before dialup users manage to fill them up?
(Nils Holland)
oldest terminal you have used ("Paul Ryan")
Sound Blaster 16 problems on SuSe linux 7.1 ("E. Carrillo")
Re: Where can I buy bridgeboards? ("Mike Yetsko")
Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist? (Jerry Kreps)
Re: RAID 5 or 0 for performance? (Dan Smith)
Re: asus a7v133 ("Dave")
Re: Where can I buy bridgeboards? (B'ichela)
Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist? (SammyTheSnake)
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? (SammyTheSnake)
Re: AS400 ("Patrick Cronin")
Re: oldest terminal you have used (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Red Hat 7.1, Promise FastTrak100, install issues. (Paul Colquhoun)
Pentium133 down for the count?? ("Monte Milanuk")
any way to make valinux fullon 2230 fans quieter? ("Noah Green")
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? (Charles Lyttle)
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? (Charles Lyttle)
Re: Red Hat 7.1, Promise FastTrak100, install issues. (iQXth)
Re: Red Hat 7.1, Promise FastTrak100, install issues. (iQXth)
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From: "WarAngel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: aic7xxx -> Installing RedHat 7.1 with an Adaptec 2940 scsi card
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:24:35 -0400
I have an Adaptec 2940 scsi card with a Yamaha CRW6416S connected to. I
install RedHat 7.0 by putting my RedHat CD in my CD-RW and it work
perfectly. But when I tried to install RedHat 7.1, the installation hang up
when it try to load the aic7xxx driver. Any ideas????
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From: Nils Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: today's harddrives will surely fail before dialup users manage to fill
them up?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:32:58 +0200
David A. Lethe wrote:
> Nils - Surely you are joking ...
> Remember Bill Gate's famous quote that 640KB (of RAM) is all thay
> anybody would EVER need. Granted RAM is not same as disk, but same
> holds true.
>
> The pro's such as IDC and Forrester show annual growth of storage
> requirements in the 50-150% range. I would bet you fit in there as
> well.
Doens't these companies mainly predict how the situation looks for
businesses? I'm not a business, so I don't know how much storage they need
these days.
Actually, you're of course right that the storage requirement constantly
grows. However, as a normal (more or less) home-user I really don't know
how my 45 Gb will get filled up any day soon. I don't normally play any
games. Mostly, I use my computer for normal day-to-day tasks like writing
letters, etc. I'm also into programming, and that must be the reason why I
like to have all the software on my Linux box available in source format so
that I can compile and install it myself (and look at the sources, of
course). Still, right now I only have 6 GB out of 45 filled up. I think the
remaining space should last for some years, shouldn't it? I really don't
know what should come along and fill it all up soon.
> Over the last few years, how big were the disk drives you bought?
Good question. I bought a lot of HDs during the last 2 years:
1999: 13 GB Western Digital HD
2000: 8,4 GB Fujitsu HD
2001: 45 GB Western Digital HD
All of these HDs are in different machines around here. The 45 GB thing is
in my own Linux high-end machine. The 13 GB thing is in the so-called
"family-computer", where I also have Linux installed, but my father
*insists* (for whatever reasons) in also running Windows there. So
currently we have about 5 out of the 13 GB free. That drive could indeed be
filled up soon.
The 8,4 GB drive is currently somewhere in my extensive collection of spare
computer parts. It will some day be put in the machine that provides
Internet-connectivity to our other machines. But currently that machine
still has 600 MB out of its 2.1 GB free, so it doesn't really need the
bigger HD yet...
Greetings,
Nils
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From: "Paul Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: oldest terminal you have used
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:16:01 +0100
Just out of interest, what is the oldest terminal anybody here has used with
Linux? I have an old ICL 6402/00 that I plan to try. I've checked, and
it's supported. Rather good going, as the terminal is from about 1983!
Paul
--
>> Bagheera's Web Site <<
http://bagheera.freeservers.com
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From: "E. Carrillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Blaster 16 problems on SuSe linux 7.1
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:23:10 -0700
I have a sound blaster 16 ISA card which works fine under windows, but I
can't make it work properly on linux. The card does work the first time I
boot the system right after the linux installation. But as soon as I restart
the system the sound stops working. During the boot up process I see a line
that says something like "initializing snd-card-sb16" and "Done" on the
right side of the screen with green letters. If I try using the YaSt 2
setup program it recognizes the card, but during the sound test there is no
sound. It supposedly starts ALSA during the boot up process but that doesn't
seem to do any good. I'm a total newbie to this linux world so if you can
help me please be as descriptive as you can. Thank you in advance.
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From: "Mike Yetsko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Where can I buy bridgeboards?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:45:01 -0400
Well, the way I remember it, and this is from a long time
ago and flakey memory...
MFM is the encoding scheme. I'll stay out of the details
for now, but if a certain 'fixed' drive is MFM, and was
built for 10Meg, the same 'physical' drive, using RLL,
would hold 15Meg. Essentially RLL gives a 50%
increase in data density.
Now, SOME drives would work RLL, but others had
reliability issues. Seagate for example made a 20Meg
MFM drive that had the SAME physical construction,
but tailored for RLL and was 30Meg. It had an "R"
suffix.
Where a lot of people get confused is with ESDI. Doing
the same 'trick' as above, ESDI would generally be
TWICE the data of MFM.
While RLL could usually be hooked up to an MFM
drive, ESDI was NOT as compatible. The interface
was slightly differernt. AND... There were 5 slightly
different ESDI specs, of which I think only 3 were
commonly in PCs. I had a DTC interface board in
my PC-AT that ran the ESDI drives at 24Mhz and was
faster than slick snot in it's day.
When you get to IDE, then it doesn't matter. The drive
is BUNDLED with the interface, and is offered as a
PACKAGE DEAL. It does not matter at all what the
internal operation and interface of the package was/is.
In fact, most manufacturers didn't care, as very quickly
the technology went to what was called ZBR, which had
different rates and number of bits per cylinder or zone.
Finally, when drives hit the 540meg issue, (they really didn't
but that's another story) they HAD to translate. ZBR
translated from day one, so it didn't matter. But eventually
drives got big enough that even translations couldn't
handle the size, so they started using a linear method
of sequential sector numbers, not CHS or a matrix of
Cylinder - Head- Sector. Which is interesting in that
DOS and Windows work in linear sector, but only the
BIOS and some tools work in CHS anyway.
Mike
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:48:07 -0500
Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mario Klebsch) wrote:
>
> > What about hot-swappable programs?
>
> That leads me to a feature I've been thinking about that I'd
> like to have...
>
> At some kind of signal from the user, the kernel writes
> the entire contents of RAM, plus the CPU registers and
> any other relevant data, to a big file on disk, saves
> a pointer to this so that it'll see it at boot time,
> and then just powers down.
>
> Next boot time, it sees that flag file, loads the big
> file off the disk to RAM, restores everything, and
> picks up right where it left off, in the middle of
> whatever it was doing.
>
> A few things wouldn't work properly when restored,
> most notably apps that rely on the outside world
> (like internet stuff), printing that's in progress,
> and anything that earns its living paying very close
> attention to the time of day. Some kinds of external
> devices might also have issues.
>
> But most things should be just fine. And it would
> be an *extremely* handy feature. You could get to
> the other OS for a while, or turn the computer off
> and unplug it for an electrical storm, or move
> across state lines, or whatever, without having
> to finish up all your open tasks.
It's already been done, probably more than once.
About 20 years ago I encountered a machine from
the Logical Corp. called "David". It was a state
machine with the properties you desired. Skeptical,
I reached down and yanked the power cord out of
the wall before the demonstrator had an opportunity
to block me. When powered back up it returned
*exactly* to where it was and what it was doing.
It also included a natural language processor.
I ended up buying a franchise for a 12 state area
to sell an Apple based peripheral card that
employed an OS called "SAVVY". It was written
in FORTH, a beautiful languge, and featured
an excellent natural english programming language
and database. It's inventor, James Dow III, the
great grandson of Bell Star, the outlaw, didn't file
patents and only told one other person how is
pattern recognition and parsing system worked.
The two of them could not develop a multi-user,
multi-tasking version of the system without help,
so it never progressed beyond a single user system.
When then IBM PC came out they released a
software only version, to get away from the
peripheral card mfg problems, but it's parsing system
wasn't truely AI. It was just a clever hash which
began with a preprocessor that took an english
phrase, say, "List all the customers in Neu York
who have perchased widjets since 12/29/83",
and alphabetized the letters, removed redunant
letters and searched a dictionary with that pattern.
If only one pattern was found it would excute the
matched command. If more than one pattern was
found it would show the commands and ask which
one the operator wanted. I didn't pay much
attention to the natural language processor because
the FORTH based programming language combined
with a dictionay based BTREE database was a very
powerful, bottom up development environment.
I miss it.
JLK
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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: RAID 5 or 0 for performance?
Date: 21 Apr 2001 19:57:55 -0400
OK, so what do I do? *am* I supposed to jumper it?
--Dan
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From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: asus a7v133
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:24:03 -0700
Can someone tell me what a RAID0 controller is?
Thanks.
"Vik Heyndrickx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:HVeE6.6549$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Howdy,
>
> A week ago I bought an asus a7v133. Great mobo. This mobo has a Promise
> RAID0 controller on-board (next to a VIA IDE controller).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Where can I buy bridgeboards?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:48:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:18:29 GMT, B'ichela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Possibly a wire is not making contact with the Track-0 pin. Thus as I
>kept hearing the drive kept slamming into the head stops. (both are
>stepper motor type drives) The sound reminds me of my Commodore 1541
>during a disk format! (This was the dead give away of a Track-0 or a
>seek compete signal not getting to the board. AFter this happens the
>drives continued to work on the XT. Therefore no immediate damage was
>done to the drives. Still I really would like to find the MFM version
>if possible of this board. When you are designing a driver. The best
UPDATE!!!!
I got it working finally. Turns out that that whoever wrote
the acb-40XX patch set was asleep at the error detection switch ;)
Just for a hack I comented out the failure on error based on
the IOCTL status info (why the heck did they print the error in Decimal?
The value is 9 digits long!
Well needless to say that after I wrote the message I am
replying to. that I started thinking a bit, grumbled "I don't care if
you got an error do_rezero() in format.c. Seek to track Zero and get
on with it!" The drive compiled and the rest of the routines worked.
I also needed to create a park program (its a ST225, not self parking).
a quick look at the board manual showed me the STOP command (its used to
power down the drives and park it. its a standard SCSI command). Meaning
my generic park can be used on ANY of my drives! ;)
As I also mentioned some drives DO not RLL perfectly. My
ST225 is no exception. I got over 80 sector errors as reported by the
mke2fs -c /dev/sde1 command. I got about 30MB of space to play with.
HINT for others. You don't need to disable the scsi.c timeout
commands during a low level. In fact I would recomend you DON'T.
What I learned on Linux reguarding this board is usable to
CP/M and Os9. Now if I could find a MS-DOS driver, which uses the
Adaptec aspi2dos driver I would then have something to talk about.
I forgot one thing. What is the fake scsi Identify of a
ACB-4070 to define the second LUN drive when/if I plug one in. Even
format.c in the acb-40XX package assumes only one drive.. There is
some cheats here. One of which my bernoulli 44mb under my Trantor
T130b drivers does.I miss that T130B it was my first SCSI controller.
Worked great on my first XT, anyone got one they want to give a home.
I got a new XT looking for one.
Drive 0 is used to format only right? Swap the cables on your
drives so you can now low level drive 1 ;) Meaning make drive 1 drive
0.
I celebrated my success by gulping down a 7-11 Double Gulp of
DR Pepper. Never tasted better ;)
I am thinking of releasing a updated ACB-40XX package for
Linux with both the original Package contents and my updated versions
for the 2.0.38 scsi.c kernel routine. My additions include. a park.c
command and the linux 2.0.38 patch.
--
B'ichela
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:58:29 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Grant Edwards wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
>
>>> What about hot-swappable programs?
>>
>>That leads me to a feature I've been thinking about that I'd
>>like to have...
>>
>>At some kind of signal from the user, the kernel writes
>>the entire contents of RAM, plus the CPU registers and
>>any other relevant data, to a big file on disk, saves
>>a pointer to this so that it'll see it at boot time,
>>and then just powers down.
>>
>>Next boot time, it sees that flag file, loads the big
>>file off the disk to RAM, restores everything, and
>>picks up right where it left off, in the middle of
>>whatever it was doing.
>
>How's this different than the existing "suspend to disk" feature?
That's a feature of the (read some, laptops mostly) hardware. What I think
TOP means is something like the swsusp kernel patches which I'll find as
soon as I can get me hands on the blighters...aha!
http://falcon.sch.bme.hu/~seasons/linux/swsusp.html
I hope you like it, I do :)
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake
--
Sam.Penny @ Ntlworld.com | Looking for a computer related
Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SammyTheSnake)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:24:30 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
>A lot of military cooks aren't the brightest individuals.
>
>In the army, those who aren't smart enough to be riflemen are sent
>away to be a cook.
>
>
>Mind you there smart cooks in the army...but they have to put up with
>a disproportionate number of idiots.
I know a chap who used to be a cook in the army, he says that they did toast
in one variety. Black: scrape to taste ;)
Cheers & God bless
SammyTheSnake(BTW that .sig is obscenely large)
--
Sam.Penny @ Ntlworld.com | Looking for a computer related
Linux, Hardware & Juggling specialist :-) | job, if you can help, e-mail me :)
Wheels: bike, 'ickle bike, and unicycle. | /o \/
Boxen: K6-266@300, dual Celery500 & Nx486 | \__/\
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From: "Patrick Cronin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AS400
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:56:20 -0500
Mike,
I believe IBM is building support for Red Hat that can run on it's own
partition, but you will still have to run OS/400.
"Mike Kenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bqrf5$mjn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is there a version for the AS400?
>
> Will it work without OS/400 being installed first?
> --
> Collector of Vintage Computers
>
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Subject: Re: oldest terminal you have used
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:08:12 GMT
"Paul Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just out of interest, what is the oldest terminal anybody here has used with
> Linux? I have an old ICL 6402/00 that I plan to try. I've checked, and
> it's supported. Rather good going, as the terminal is from about
> 1983!
fwiw i've used an ADM3A. i have a DEC VT320 here at home. dunno the
ages on them.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.1, Promise FastTrak100, install issues.
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:10:02 GMT
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:16:09 -0700, Stuart Cianos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|Hi -
|
|I live near Promise's office and called them personally, as I use their
|controllers extensively at both my place of work and at my home. They stated
|that they are working on updating the driver as we speak.
|
|I have, however, been looking for a workaround so that we may use 7.1 w/
|their current driver.
|
|- Stu
|
|"iQXth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
|news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|> I was able to install Red Hat 7.0 with no problem using the driver
|> disk provided by Promise. Do I have to wait for them to put out
|> another driver disk for 7.1 or is there some sort of generic
|> compatibility mode that I can use to get this thing installed and
|> working--even if not at peak performance?
It is possible, if a little tedious, to upgrade by copying all the
RPMS from the 7.1 disks into a directory and upgrading manually.
I did it this way, as I had converted to reiserfs and wasn't sure
that the installer scripts would cope.
Just run "rpm -Fvh --test *.rpm" in the directory. It will give
you a bunch of unstisfied ddependencies. Most of these are on
new RPMs that you don't have instaled.
Find these (they will be in the directory), install them, and repeat
until there are no problems reported. Then run the command again without
the "--test" to do the actual upgrade.
Finally, there will be new RPMs that were not installed by this process.
Install them if you want.
Some hints. There are i386 & i586 versions of gzip & glibc, you
only need 1, probably the i386 version.
I had to create some links to crypto libraries in /usr/lib by hand.
After it is finished, you will be using the same kernel you were
before.
Also, search for *.rpmnew & *.rpmsave and see what config files
it has changed for you.
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-
xenaphobia: The fear of being beaten to a pulp by
a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.
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From: "Monte Milanuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Pentium133 down for the count??
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:19:09 GMT
Alright, I admit. It's my fault (most likely). Now I just need some help
digging myself out of a hole.
I have a little GW2K P133 w/ 16MB RAM, 1.2GB HD, 24x CDROM, and a ZIP-100
drive. So far, this machine has been resurrected from the junk pile to run
KRUD, an version of RedHat +errata +updates. I have a monthly subscription
to KRUD, so I get a fresh set of CD's w/ all the latest fixes once a month.
Nice, for those of us w/o broadband or fast access. This particular box is
the only one I have w/ me right now since I have just moved ahead of the
family and all the stuff isn't here yet. As it is DOA, I have to write this
using Outlook Express from another person's computer :(
I started out by mounting the CD, changing to the /mnt/cdrom/Redhat/RPMS
directory and su'ing to root, followed by a 'rpm -Fvh *.rpm' to freshen any
needed CD's. This didn't work right away w/ the kernel binary rpm (should
have been my first hint to stop, and go read up. Ah, well. Coulda,
shoulda, woulda, didn't.) So I installed it separately, and it seemed to
work ok. Then I freshened the rest of the stuff w/ the previously mentioned
command. Then I wanted to do the same thing w/ the other CD, so I went to
umount the CD. Couldn't do it. Did a 'cd' to root's home directory. Still
couldn't umount the damn CD. WTF? lsof showed it still open from
installing the kernel rpm?!? I decided to reboot the machine. No problem.
Except that once I had re-logged in, now I couldn't mount the CD or the ZIP
drive, as there was 'no driver present'? Huh?? It's a stinking IDE drive,
what's the problem. I try some other things, finally decided that
discretion is the better part of valor, so I went to upgrade/reinstall using
the RedHat installer.
At this point I started noticing that the machine was taking an _awfully_
long time to boot i.e. just get thru the POST, something like 3-4 minutes.
The RedHat installer would just hang about 8 '.'s after 'Loading
vmlinuz....' One time I left it for an hour or two and came back to find it
had gone into the text installer like I had wanted, but now it would only
let me pick either a SCSI CDROM or 'Other', and 'Other' didn't match my CD
drive. WTF?. Finally after putzing around a bit, I thought I found an old
RH 7.0 boot disk, and stuck it in. Unfortunately, somewhere in the middle
of a half dozen or so reboots, I went in and fudged the BIOS settings to not
look for a bootable CD, just a floppy and then the HD, and to use the BIOS
setup utilitiy for IRQ and whatnot.
Now the darned thing won't even complete the POST. Even when I press F1 to
enter setup, it just hangs there. The prompt will change, to 'Entering
Setup', so it's not completely dead to the world, just effectively.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I really want to get
this thing up and running, and to speed up the boot process (the hardware
end) as it was ridiculously slow to start out w/.
TIA,
Monte
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From: "Noah Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: any way to make valinux fullon 2230 fans quieter?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:24:37 -0400
I have two VALinux FullOn 2230 boxes over my desk. Man, those fans are
LOUD! It is really hard to work with them next to my head. I realize they
are important, and maybe this is a dumb question, but is there any way to
turn them down or replace them with quieter fans?
Thanks,
Noah Green
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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:24:18 GMT
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Charles Lyttle
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:30:09 GMT
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >>
>
> [snip for brevity]
>
> >>
> >> Further, the same author that wrote the gcn article (which quotes from the
> >> usni article) also clarifies his statements in a followup article:
> >> http://www.gcn.com/archives/gcn/1998/november9/6.htm
> >That last one is even worse than my story. A divide by zero in the
> >controller for a fuel valve caused the entire LAN to go down crashing 27
> >remotes? Industry (mostly) fixed that problem 30 years ago. For what its
> >worth, I had an NT machine I was working with bring down an entire LAN
> >of over 1000 machines. It was called the "ping of death". Some
> >applications could cause the NT software to start issuing network pings
> >at high speed. These faults often also caused a BSOD, but not always.
>
> Yeah, but is the BSOD on the machine pinging, or one of the
> many machines being pinged? :-)
>
> [.sigsnip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 5d:12h:04m actually running Linux.
> We are all naked underneath our clothes.
The BSOD machine was pinging. BSOD doesn't necessarly stop everything.
But this wasn't a true BSOD. I had gotten an error message of the "the
application has performed an illegal operation..." type. I just
restarted the application and continued on. However, the illegal
operation started something pinging. In our case MS fixed the ping of
death by blaiming the hardware. We had to install smart hubs that would
block the pings.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:34:58 GMT
Monte Milanuk wrote:
>
> Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > A good project for Linux open source would be a ladder logic
> > development/run-time enviornment. It should have provisions for
> > constructing and printing ladder diagrams. It should have a runtime
> > enviornment that intreprets the diagram routing signals to/from the
> > external hardware. For emergency situations, it should have provisions
> > for over-riding the state of objects (password required).
> >
>
> I know... it's one of the things that is driving me to try to learn to
> program... i.e. I'm very used to ladder logic, after dealing w/ large
> programs on Reliance Automax DCS and AB PLC5 racks, and since in my new job
> I will probably be not allowed near the techie type stuff (I'm an operator,
> now ;p ) I will have to settle for doing some home automation stuff. And to
> me, it seems like a decent ladder logic implementation would be just the
> ticket for stuff like irrigation systems, lighting schemes, burglar alarms,
> and what not. Hopefully someone more skilled than I will start it, because
> if it has to wait for me to learn enough to start it, it'll be a long time
> coming ;)
>
> Monte
Might start with something like SPICE and work from there. You can draw
ladder diagrams and run them in SPICE. It just isn't the best for that
and lacks lots of I/O functions that would be required.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: iQXth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.1, Promise FastTrak100, install issues.
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:48:11 GMT
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:16:09 -0700, "Stuart Cianos"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I live near Promise's office and called them personally, as I use their
> controllers extensively at both my place of work and at my home. They stated
> that they are working on updating the driver as we speak.
>
> I have, however, been looking for a workaround so that we may use 7.1 w/
> their current driver.
>
> - Stu
Thanks for taking the time to find out that information for us.
Good luck on the wordaround..!
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From: iQXth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.1, Promise FastTrak100, install issues.
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:57:46 GMT
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:16:09 -0700, "Stuart Cianos"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I live near Promise's office and called them personally, as I use their
> controllers extensively at both my place of work and at my home. They stated
> that they are working on updating the driver as we speak.
>
> I have, however, been looking for a workaround so that we may use 7.1 w/
> their current driver.
>
> - Stu
Also, it seems like there should be a generic compatibility mode to
access the array. Microsoft's DOS can boot without the help of drivers
and access the array. I can pass boot arguments to the Linux kernel
and access each drive independently, but not as an array. It seems
like there should be some sort of way to pass in arguments and gain
access to the array.
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