Linux-Hardware Digest #738, Volume #14 Mon, 7 May 01 14:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com (Cobalt
servers)? ("C. Newport")
Re: ELSA Microlink Modem (Chris Howells)
Re: NEC 3.5" 1.2MB Floppy support (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Re: Pentium I 133 +32 MB enough ? (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
RH 7.0 + Maestro.o +USB on Toshiba Laptop ("Charlene Hanselman")
Re: kppp problems... (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com (Cobalt
servers)? (Harri Haataja)
Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com (Cobalt
servers)? (Harri Haataja)
Re: ASUS A7M266 motherboard incompatible? (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com (Mathew
Kirsch)
Backing up Windows on Linux (Steve Smith)
Help... terminal server (Ramesh K)
VIA 686B bug fix (jay)
Re: High availability webserver (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Re: High availability webserver (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Re: newbie Req: PCI Audio Vortex on Mandrake 7.2 ("Francisco Galvan")
Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com (Cobalt
servers)? ("Abe Lian")
reiserfs for new kernel (Homer)
Sound Blaster 16 PCI ("Marc Rosen")
Re: linux kernel 2.2.12 and DAC-960 ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: reiserfs for new kernel (Kwan Lowe)
Re: Backing up Windows on Linux (Kwan Lowe)
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From: "C. Newport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com
(Cobalt servers)?
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 14:11:54 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harri Haataja wrote:
>
> Sriranga Veeraraghavan wrote:
> >
> >If you are interested in an alternative OS on older Sun hardware, I
> >would recommend you try either NetBSD or OpenBSD instead of Linux.
> >
> >In my personal experience, having run Sparc-Linux on everything from
> >an IPC to a Ultra1, Sparc-Linux is not nearly as stable or fast as the
> >BSDs. Things may have changed now, but it used to be quite difficult
> >to get stable kernels and glibc's on Sparc-Linux. About the only
> >reason I know of to choose Sparc-Linux over one of the BSDs is SMP
> >support.
>
> This has been the case ages ago. Unfortunately it's really hard to
> find a recent distribution that easily installs on sparcs. N/O BSD's
> works fairly nicely.
Take a look at http://www.slackware.com/ for a decent Sparc linux
which runs OK on anything from an IPC to an Ultra.
No bloat, 96Mb iso image.
--
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not sure about the universe. [Albert Einstein].
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From: Chris Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ELSA Microlink Modem
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 14:13:03 +0100
sfer wrote:
> I try different things, linmodem driver etc but not work
If the Linmodem driver doesn't work then it looks like it's time to buy
a proper modem. Soft-modems are in effect nothing more than a glorified
sound card.
--
Chris Howells
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 93699029
Web: http://www.chowells.uklinux.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: NEC 3.5" 1.2MB Floppy support
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:34:03 GMT
"Jan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a "NEC FD1231T 3.5" floppy disk drive (mode 3)
> using 1.2MB diskettes. Does the Linux (RedHat 7, Kernel v2.2.17)
> support this kind of disk drives?
Are you *certain* about the disk size? 1.2MB diskettes
are usually 5.25" (the kind that are _visibly_ floppy).
3.5" diskettes are normally the kind with the stiff case,
and they generally come in 720K and 1.4M sizes.
- jonadab
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: Pentium I 133 +32 MB enough ?
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:44:27 GMT
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 32MB is enough to run X, a reasonable sized window manager like
> fvwm-1.24r, and emacs. netscape is a hog, but it will run ok too.
The original poster asked about KDE. Older versions of KDE
can run with 32MB of RAM (as long as you give them some swap
space), but KDE2 prefers to have more, or there'll be a lot
of swapping going on.
I don't know which version of KDE comes with any particular
release of SUSE. I know that Mandrake 7.1 uses the older
(smaller) KDE, but Mandrake 7.2 uses the newer (bigger)
KDE2, which likes to have more RAM.
I *have* run KDE2 with as little as 16MB of RAM, given
adequate swap space; however, it's quite sluggish.
Gnome's memory requirements are at least as great as KDE2.
fvwm, of course, doesn't consume as much.
Adding big apps on top, like WINE or StarOffice, increases
the memory requirements substantially, which is why they're
asking what apps you intent to use.
- jonadab
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From: "Charlene Hanselman" <d>
Subject: RH 7.0 + Maestro.o +USB on Toshiba Laptop
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:00:24 -0700
I am still trying to get my sonud running. The main problem seems to be an
IRQ issue (USB + Sound on IRQ 11). The OSS driver allows me to move the
sound to IRQ 10 and I can get most (not all) sound to work. Apps such as
xmms report a conflict trying to grab sound.
So now the question can I (and also how do I) force the maestro.o (or maybe
soundcore) to use IRQ 10.
System
RH 7.0
Toshiba 2595 Laptop
128Mb mem
USB mouse (usb-uhci IRQ=11)
Linksys Lan (IRQ=5)
maestro 2E sound (also showing IRQ=11)
thanks
Steve Hanselman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kppp problems...
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:54:23 GMT
"Karim R. Sobhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apr 24 21:52:38 Edgar pppd[927]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
> Apr 24 21:52:46 Edgar pppd[927]: Peer is not authorized to use remote
> address 217.52.7.110
That line right there is the important one.
Unfortunately, I'm not certain whether "peer" in this case is
you or your ISP. Is your connection governed by DHCP? Are
you trying to use 217.52.7.110 as your IP address? Or is your
ISP using that address maybe and your system isn't accepting
that for some reason? One of those two things is probably
your problem.
- jonadab
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com
(Cobalt servers)?
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:55:22 GMT
C. Newport wrote:
>J.Teo wrote:
>>
>> > There are a lot of cool things happening in Linux, and Sun is right to
>> > realise it should get involved and make use of these things. After all
>> > the Linux sparc port has been around a while and people like me are
>> > scooping up old Sun equipment to run it on because we know it's going to
>> > be much better than on a PC, and much cheaper than Solaris!
>>
>> Would you be kind enough to explain to me why buying old Sun equipment and
>> putting Linux on it would make it cheaper than Solaris?
>
>Only Solaris 8 is free, you need 2.6 or 7 to run on the Sun4c
>processor, which is definitely NOT free.
S7 was "free" as well, only a bit different in its terms.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com
(Cobalt servers)?
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:56:48 GMT
C. Newport wrote:
>Harri Haataja wrote:
>> This has been the case ages ago. Unfortunately it's really hard to
>> find a recent distribution that easily installs on sparcs. N/O BSD's
>> works fairly nicely.
>
>Take a look at http://www.slackware.com/ for a decent Sparc linux
>which runs OK on anything from an IPC to an Ultra.
>No bloat, 96Mb iso image.
Personally:
"I guess I should have added decent to that list"
=)
Objectively:
Yes, and Debian also has a sparc port out, I don't know how old,
though. You might also look at the progress Rock Linux has been
making.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: ASUS A7M266 motherboard incompatible?
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 14:05:00 GMT
"Richard J. Shank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Help, I have the subject motherboard and I can't install Mandrake
> Linux 7.2. The system just hangs at the beginning of the install.
Is the motherboard working properly? Can you, for example, boot
from a DOS or Windows floppy disk?
When you say "at the beginning of the install", can you be
more specific? What is the very last thing printed on your
monitor screen before it hangs?
- jonadab
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From: Mathew Kirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 10:37:26 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abe Lian wrote:
> Anyone know why they chose not to migrate to either
> Solaris X86 or SPARC hardware?
Migration takes time. If Sun just recently acquired these Cobalt boxes, they
obviously haven't had time to develop an in-house solution. They are certainly
not going to sit on old stock and/or shut down Cobalt's production until a
purely Sun solution is ready. In this day and age of razor-thin margins and
cost-cutting, you don't buy something unless it's going to make you money.
Evidently, Cobalt is a profitable venture and fills a niche that Sun didn't
already have a product for.
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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 09:14:06 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Backing up Windows on Linux
This seemed like an obvious idea until I got to the part about file
names with spaces, like "My Documents".
I want to write a script to back up all the directories *except* certain
ones, like Windows and Recycled. I'm using ls to generate a list of file
names, and tar tries to interpret "My Documents" as two file names,
neither of which exist.
I can figure out some hard ways to do this; anyone know any easy ones?
Thanks,
Steve Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ramesh K)
Subject: Help... terminal server
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:19:49 +0000 (UTC)
Hello,
1. we use Central Data SCSI Terminal server 1016 for some control and
monitoring applications. We use each of the serical ports in terminal
server at 9600 bauds to talk to some microprocessor units. Is there a
device driver for Central Data ST-1016 in Linux? Does the Firmware need
an upgrade to use a generic SCSI driver?
2. I was also thinking if we could use one of digicoms, or Comptrol
Multi Port serial card for this application. These cards are intelligent
cards. Now what diffence does a SCSI based Terminal server differ from
the multiport serial cards? Is replacing the terminal server by multi
serial card a viable solution?
Please mail your comments. And thanks for your time and patience.
Regards
Ramesh
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From: jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VIA 686B bug fix
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:41:23 +0200
I have a MSI K7T Turbo motherboard with the VIA 686B Southbridge chip
(KT-133A chipset). Is there a bug fix for Linux? If so how do I correct the
problem. I'm currently using SuSE 7.0 but want to fix the problem before
upgrading to 7.1.
The Windows bug fix does not help Linux at all, I have already tried it.
Windows works without any problems anymore but Linux is still messed up.
Regards,
Jay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: High availability webserver
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:50:01 GMT
"Bastiaan Schaap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Cluster for web server]
> - Is this a wise idea?
Well, clusters are *best* for number crunching rather than
lots of file I/O (which is one of the things a web server
does), but that isn't to say it can't be made to work.
Be aware that a cluster will draw a extra power, which
could put your electric bill up. Whether that'll end up
being more than a heavy-duty server, I don't know. Assuming
you only have one monitor, it might not be too bad. (A
monitor is a much heavier power draw than a node without
one.) But I have no experience with this.
> - If clustering is a good option, should I go for Beowulf
> or TurboLinux, or does anyone know a better alternative?
I know there's also Mosix, but I don't know the relative
advantages and disadvantages of the various kinds of clusters.
- jonadab
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: High availability webserver
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:21:32 GMT
One more thing: the *really* high-availabilty servers (e.g.,
www.yahoo.com) are actually multiple servers; they have their
DNS servers set up to rotate through a fixed set of servers,
all of which serve up the same content, or something like that.
(Not sure of the exact details, but it's along those lines.)
If one server goes down, the others keep working. They put
them in separate physical locations, so if a building burns
down, the website is still available. I think they're on a
couple of different subnets, too. If you ping www.yahoo.com
several times in a row, you'll see what I mean; it won't be
the same IP address every time.
You probably don't need *that* much high availability, at
least not now, but it's something to keep in mind if you
ever do.
- jonadab
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From: "Francisco Galvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie Req: PCI Audio Vortex on Mandrake 7.2
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:25:48 +0200
Check Sound Mixer Program, increment the volume, by default all are zero.
"totoro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Please note that I'm a fresher, the query may therefore be badly
> posed.
> I installed Mandrake 7.2 and it seems to dislike my audio card (PCI
> Audio Vortex AU8810) - no sound at all indeed.
> If anyone can help...
>
> I also couldn't configure my USB mouse (Logitech i-Feel)... for the
> good of heart...
>
> thanks,
> totoro
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From: "Abe Lian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com
(Cobalt servers)?
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:13:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Philip Brown"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2001 01:28:28 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>...
>>As for your question about why they didn't start producing Cobalts with
>>sparc processors, well maybe the writing is on the wall for the
>>traditional sparc OS[...blah blah]
> the reason is because intel hardware is cheaper, and one of the main
> selling points about cobalt boxes is that they are CHEAP. [yes, I know
> they used to be MIPS based. same reason; they got a good
> deal on the processor they needed. but now it is more cost-effective to
> use intel hardware]
>
Yes, but you can get a base Sun Blade for $200 US cheaper than a Cobalt
server. The base Cobalt server is not a lot of hardware. I could piece
one together in the garage for $400. Of course, the OS is free.
So it seems to me if Sunsoft had the talent they would try to duplicate
the ease of administration and other functionality that Cobalt provides
on the Blade platform. Then they could keep all the money instead
of fattening Intel or AMD's pockets.
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From: Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reiserfs for new kernel
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:47:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear newsreaders,
I am woking on a new kernel for a machine on reiserfs.
I could'nt find the option for reiserfs in menuconfig, I found this one
with xconfig only the text was grey, now I need to find the option (?) to
open the reiserfs option.
Does anyone know wich one this must be?
Thanks in advantage,
Peter
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On SuSE 7.1; kernel 2.4.4, AMD-K6 400Mhz, 256mb RAM, nVIDIA TNT2 VANTA
16mb,
Quantum Fireball 10GB and a microsoft mouse: `--<M>' (iiiiii!).
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From: "Marc Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Blaster 16 PCI
Date: 07 May 2001 17:41:30 GMT
recently I bought a SB 16 PCI sound card.
anyone have any success in getting this to work?
I am renning redhat 6.1 compiled w/sound enabled
postings indicate that I should be using the es1370.o module, but it doesn't
seem to work
sndconfig reports es1274:5880
/proc/pci shows:
Bus 0, device 9, function 0:
Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq Unknown device (rev 2).
Vendor id=1274. Device id=5880.
Slow devsel. IRQ 9. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=12.Max
Lat=128.
I/O at 0xa400 [0xa401].
Any suggestions?
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux kernel 2.2.12 and DAC-960
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:31:56 -0600
> I am running a redhat 6.1 box on an Intergraph Interserve (Integraph?!?!
> I know they stopped making computers) with dual Pentium Pro 133 mHz
> processors and a 3-channel Mylex DAC960 pci firmware 1.x. I haven't been
> able to make either mandrake, debian or redhat see the Mylex, so I just
> used the onboard Adaptec card. However, I just got in a few 4.3 gb
> drives and I wanted to take linux off the 2 gig drive and throw it on
> the Mylex card. I still can't get any distro to see the card. I've even
> looked at the drivers and can't find anything to help me. The card is
> registered as being busy so the kernel can't grab it. Any fixes? Anyone
> else heard of this problem?
Once you have Linux running on the machine, then try one of the newer
kernels (either 2.2.19 or 2.4.3), and see if the DAC960 driver in it will
"see" your card. if it will, then it's possible to migrate your
installation over to the RAID array. If you need pointers on it, feel
free to email sdw *at* codon *dot* com .
steve
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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reiserfs for new kernel
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 17:54:23 GMT
Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear newsreaders,
> I am woking on a new kernel for a machine on reiserfs.
> I could'nt find the option for reiserfs in menuconfig, I found this one
> with xconfig only the text was grey, now I need to find the option (?) to
> open the reiserfs option.
> Does anyone know wich one this must be?
If you are using a stock 2.2.x kernel you'll need to patch the ReiserFS stuff.
To do this, grab the patches from http://www.namesys.com/download.html. Run the
patch by cd'ing to /usr/src/linux and type patch -p1 < /patch-file.
Replace patch-file with the actual file you downloaded. Then you can do the
make config and see it under the filesystem options.
Kernel 2.4 already has ReiserFS included.
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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backing up Windows on Linux
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 17:58:38 GMT
Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This seemed like an obvious idea until I got to the part about file
> names with spaces, like "My Documents".
> I want to write a script to back up all the directories *except* certain
> ones, like Windows and Recycled. I'm using ls to generate a list of file
> names, and tar tries to interpret "My Documents" as two file names,
> neither of which exist.
You can either quote the filename -- "My Documents", or escape them --
My\ Documents.
E.g.,
tar cvfz winders.tgz /Windows/My\ Documents
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