Linux-Hardware Digest #744, Volume #14 Tue, 8 May 01 18:13:10 EDT
Contents:
conner 3200 2/4 giga ("Marco Hainaut")
Help! "don't know how to make device" error (Chris Bull)
Re: NIC setup Please Help ("hallam4")
linux recognizes scsi card but not disk (Rahul Dhesi)
Re: linux recognizes scsi card but not disk (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on (Nathan Dorfman)
Re: Webcam ("Erik Englund")
Serielles Terminal ? ("Danjo")
Best kernel for VIA Apolo Pro 133A (Ian Pilcher)
x includes ("herwig verbeke")
Re: HW recommendations for >4 GB RAM ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: Linux reads only first session from a multi session CD
(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Backing up Windows on Linux (Steve Smith)
Re: avoiding USB support at start-up (Kenneth Crudup)
Re: R: avoiding USB support at start-up (Kenneth Crudup)
Re: linux recognizes scsi card but not disk ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: CDPD Modem recommendations? (Kenneth Crudup)
Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com (Cobalt
servers)? (BSD Bob the old greybeard BSD freak)
Re: Backing up Windows on Linux (Ronald Cole)
Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com (Cobalt
servers)? ("C. Newport")
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From: "Marco Hainaut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: conner 3200 2/4 giga
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:24:05 +0200
Hi,
I've a external tape drive (conner 3200 2/4 giga (now seagate) ) but I
can't install it on my linux redhat 7.1.
Can anybody help me ?
Thx
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From: Chris Bull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help! "don't know how to make device" error
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 17:24:49 GMT
I just upgraded to RH 7.0 from 6.0 (and also migrated to a new server),
and can't ./MAKEDEV my HP SureStore T20 tape drive on st0. I get a
"don't know how to make device st0" error. I'm using an adaptec 2940
scsi card, I loaded the aic7xxx module fine, but can't get the drive
working. Any clues?
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From: "hallam4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NIC setup Please Help
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:37:32 +0100
I had a similar problem. Iseem to have got around this by taking out 1 nic
card setting this up, then installing the other nic. Worked straight away!!
Dave
John Leita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:r6HJ6.44257$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am tring to get linux up and running with two eexpress ISA cards irq
5
> and 9 io 270 and 300 respectively. during RH 6.2 installation neither card
> is detected i tried using netconfig two set them up. No dice on either
card.
> RH 5.2 installation gets one card but not the other. I tried this multiple
> times and it will work with either card but only one. Then in 5.2 I try
> adding it myself by modifying /etc/conf.modules and adding all the info.
> Then I modified lilo.conf and ran lilo like some multi-nic web page said
to.
> The problem when I do ifconfig eth1 it says unknown interface. In a
nutshell
> my question is ho do I get ifconfig to acknoledge eth1 ??? PLEASE HELP!!
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rahul Dhesi)
Subject: linux recognizes scsi card but not disk
Date: 8 May 2001 17:46:35 GMT
OS: Redhat Linux 7.0.
Disk: (a) IBM SCSI, 18-gig, 68-pin (wide), LVD/SE
(b) Seagate, 4-gig, 68-pin (wide), SE
SCSI card:
(i) Mylex Flashpoint LW
(ii) New Symbios/NCR-based card from CSC, supports wide SE and LVD
(iii) Old Symbios/NCR-based card from CSC, supports wide SE
I tried all possible combinations of a SCSI card and one disk (that's
6 combinations). And also, I an external terminator with both disks.
And also, I tried using the internal termination in the Seagate disk.
And also, I tried forcing the IBM disk into SE mode, and also letting
it remain in LVD mode.
So that is a lot of different combinations.
In all cases:
- Linux recognizes the card
- The SCSI card recognizes the disk.
- Linux does not recognize the disk
Now I am beginning to get suspicious that Redhat 7.0 has some SCSI-
related bug.
The machine in question has an IDE CD-ROM and an IDE disk already loaded
with Redhat Linux 7.0. I am trying to add a second disk that will be
a SCSI disk.
Any suggestions?
Please post, email, or both, as you prefer.
--
Rahul
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux recognizes scsi card but not disk
Date: 8 May 2001 18:20:22 GMT
Rahul Dhesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Disk: (a) IBM SCSI, 18-gig, 68-pin (wide), LVD/SE
> (b) Seagate, 4-gig, 68-pin (wide), SE
> SCSI card:
> (i) Mylex Flashpoint LW
> (ii) New Symbios/NCR-based card from CSC, supports wide SE and LVD
> (iii) Old Symbios/NCR-based card from CSC, supports wide SE
> I tried all possible combinations of a SCSI card and one disk (that's
> 6 combinations). And also, I an external terminator with both disks.
> And also, I tried using the internal termination in the Seagate disk.
> And also, I tried forcing the IBM disk into SE mode, and also letting
> it remain in LVD mode.
> So that is a lot of different combinations.
> In all cases:
> - Linux recognizes the card
> - The SCSI card recognizes the disk.
> - Linux does not recognize the disk
How do you know that? When the SCSI driver is loaded, it "should" list
all adapters of that type and all drives attached to that adapter *given*
that your chain is properly setup with regards to IDs, termination, etc.
This will appear in both 'dmesg' and /var/log/messages.
So, do this: Hook the IBM drive (not terminated, not forced into SE mode,
ID 0) to the New Symbios card (using an LVD cable of course). Use the
external terminator (is it a dual SE/LVD terminator?). Boot the machine,
load the driver for the Symbios card, and post the output. Try the same
with the SE drive and the SE card. Be sure to sacrifice the appropriate
goats to each configuration (one goat will not do).
> Now I am beginning to get suspicious that Redhat 7.0 has some SCSI-
> related bug.
Well, I don't have any NCR based cards, but I've got RH7.0 on some aic7xxx
based machines with no problems.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: Nathan Dorfman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 15:30:21 -0400
"C. Newport" wrote:
> Take a look at http://www.slackware.com/ for a decent Sparc linux
> which runs OK on anything from an IPC to an Ultra.
> No bloat, 96Mb iso image.
There isn't a slackware/sparc ISO image, is there? 7.1, the latest
release, does not support sparc yet. I only see sparc bits in the
slackware-current directory.
If there is an installable slackware/sparc iso somewhere, I'd love
to hear about it! Heh.
Thanks.
> --
> Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm
> not sure about the universe. [Albert Einstein].
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From: "Erik Englund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Webcam
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 00:41:46 +0200
In article <9d5n85$4r0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Unknown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a Webcam (USB or not) i can use with kernel 2.4 (or
> 2.2). If you're using one, can you please tell me how it works (fine,
> very fine, bad !)
I'm running a Philips TouCam Fun with kernel 2.4.4 and it works like a
dream! Easy installation and I'm very pleased with the picture quality.
Cannot thank Nemosoft enough for their great support for the Philips
webcams.
Philips drivers and installation instructions (and links to a bunch of
webcam programs for Linux) can be found here:
http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
You'll find an USB device overview (including webcams) for Linux here:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
If you want to see it in action, visit http://stipgr169.sn.umu.se/webcam
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From: "Danjo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Serielles Terminal ?
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:39:14 +0200
Hi all,
ich habe einen stinknormalen P200 als gate laufen, an dessen serielle
Schnittstelle ich ein ebensolches Terminal und eine tastatur anschlie�en
m�chte; es handelt sich dabei um ein serielles Terminal vom Typ 3152 von
IBM.
Frage nur wie ? Gibt bisher nur Zeichenm�ll aus.
Alsdenn,
Daniel
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From: Ian Pilcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Best kernel for VIA Apolo Pro 133A
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:54:32 GMT
I have recently upgraded to Red Hat 7.1 on my Tyan S1854 (Trinity 400)-
based system. It's been relatively stable so far, but I did see the
following on one occasion:
Apr 22 10:04:49 home kernel: hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
Apr 22 10:04:49 home kernel: ide_dmaproc: chipset supported
ide_dma_timeout func only: 14
Apr 22 10:04:49 home kernel: hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 {
DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
Apr 22 10:04:49 home kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0xd0 { Busy }
Apr 22 10:04:49 home kernel: hdc: DMA disabled
Apr 22 10:04:49 home kernel: hdd: DMA disabled
Apr 22 10:04:49 home kernel: ide1: reset: success
This looks suspiciously like the infamous VIA 686B Southbridge bug, so
it certainly looks like I should upgrade my kernel from the 2.4.2 that
Red Hat ships. The question is which version should I use.
I've been searching all over the 'Net, and I can't find anything that
clearly states when (if ever) a fully functioning workaround for this
bug has made it into the kernel. (You'd think that the changelogs would
at least be browseable somewhere, but I can't find them.)
Anyway, if the options are the latest stable kernel (2.4.4?), the latest
pre-patch (2.4.5-pre?), or the latest Alan Cox kernel, which is likely
to be the best for this chipset?
Thanks!
--
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Ian Pilcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "herwig verbeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: x includes
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:59:10 +0200
When running ./configure to install some packages I get an error message
saying that X includes can not be found.
I understand I need some development libraries. Can anyone tell me which
packages I need.
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HW recommendations for >4 GB RAM
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:46:18 -0600
> I am looking for a 64 bit machine that features, above all, fast RAM
> access. The computer will have around 16 GB RAM, give or take one binary
> magnitude. Both fast (and large) first and second level cache and a fast
> overall access are important. Also, ALU performance (for simple integer
> calculations) matters somewhat. The rest (FPU etc.) are not relevant.
> What hardware do you recommend (at a reasonable cost)? The two obvious
> solutions are 64 bit Alphas and Suns, what is best? Also, would you
> recommend using Linux as the kernel for such a platform, or use Tru64
> Unix/Solaris, respectively? The latter is less important as a dual boot
> solution will probably be used anyway.
This may or may not help, but I'll give my limitted experience with an
Alpha.
We had a Compaq rep try and sell us on Alphas, so he loaned us a
dual-CPU setup for a week to fiddle with. He said that the machine, as
tested, was around $25,000. It had two CPU's, one or two gigs of RAM, and
a couple of SCSI disks. We took a machine that we built as a database
server, a quad Xeon with half a gig and hardware RAID, which cost us less
than half of the price of the Alpha. Here's the catch - at the time, the
Xeon machine had 400 MHz Xeons, with the L2 cache *disabled*. We
installed our database server, PostgreSQL, on each, and put it under some
very heavy stress-testing, with 10 simultaneous connections, each
connection issuing several thousand selects in serial. The Compaq machine
was a little faster than the Xeon, not much. A month later, we put in
some 700 MHz Xeons with a meg of L2 cache enabled, and I'm convinced that
the now-$12,000 machine would have left the $25,000 Alpha along the side
of the road. In this case, the RAID did not matter, because there were
no disk writes during the tests, and each machine had enough RAM to keep
the entire database in disk cache.
So... if I were doing raytracing, I would still probably give the odds
to the Alpha - but for the mostly integer work that databases do, a quad
Xeon was faster and a whole lot cheaper - and will support up to the 16
gigs of RAM that you mention.
Hmmm.... come to think of it, a client that I worked for still lets me
have access to their 4-way Sun machine. Maybe some day soon I'll do
stress-testing on their machine and ours, and see how they fare....
steve
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.support
Subject: Re: Linux reads only first session from a multi session CD
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:13:15 +0200
On Tue, 8 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> After reading a few articles I understand that Linux (in my case
> Mandrake 8.0, kernel 2.4.3) STILL reads the first session from a
> multi-session CD in stead of the last session (indeed it does after
> testing). This means I can't read my CD-R I made containing two
> sessions, because only the file-listing of the first session is shown.
> Using the -o session=xx only gives me an error message that the session
> does not exists, but it does, because in Windows the CD is read in full
> (all files in both sessions). So it's not a hardware issue, but
> typically a Linux problem.
Perhaps you need to turn on vendor specific extensions. If you have a
scsi cd drive, you can try to recompile your kernel and enable those
extensions, that are needed to use multisession cd's on some drives.
Rasmus
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Beware of bugs in the above code;
I have only proved it correct, not tried it.
- Donald Knuth
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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:37:00 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backing up Windows on Linux
Thanks for all the responses. I am belatedly remembering that I do use find in the
ancient backup script I wrote at work; I will look into this further.
Kwan, thanks for pointing out the -b option in ls. I wasn't aware of this option (I
should rtfm).
Steve
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: avoiding USB support at start-up
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:38:09 GMT
In article <JA8J6.22700$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Massimo Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:
>The main problem is that, approximately 70% of the times, my laptop would
>not boot at all, freezing when loading the usb-ohci module (I have a NEC
>Corporation USB controller, rev 01) or, if that step is passed, it
>freezes when mounting the USB filesystem, or later, when checking for new
>hardware.
Does your setup work under Windows OK? I use my USB Zip all the time with
no problems (iNtel UHCI, alternate controller). You could have hardware
problems.
-Kenny
--
Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-8181
Work: See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers! (510) 745-0101
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: R: avoiding USB support at start-up
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:39:22 GMT
In article <%OiJ6.28557$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Massimo Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:
>More generally, I would like to ask how to manage the modules that are to be
>loaded at boot time, if modules are available.
man modprobe
In fact, this is how I do it. I have core USB support compiled into my
kernels (UHCI controller only), then I "modprobe" every component I need
into the system as I need it.
-Kenny
--
Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-8181
Work: See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers! (510) 745-0101
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux recognizes scsi card but not disk
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:29:54 -0600
> In all cases:
>
> - Linux recognizes the card
> - The SCSI card recognizes the disk.
> - Linux does not recognize the disk
Does your kernel have "SCSI disk support" enabled? Make sure that it
does, and if/when it does, give us some relevant snippets from the output
of 'dmesg'.
steve
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Subject: Re: CDPD Modem recommendations?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:09:33 GMT
In article <9cs6s2$7d0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says:
>I'm shopping around for a CDPD PCMCIA modem for that will work with Linux
>(I currently have SuSE 7.1 with kernel 2.4.3), and would like
>recommendations on particular models, as well as pointers on setting them
>up. Anyone have any experiences, positive or otherwise?
I have used an (old, you might not be able to get it anymore) IBM "Butterfly"
PCMCIA CDPD modem that works perfectly. The cards look like serial ports,
and the command set is a Hayes-compatible modem.
Try (I think) extremecomputing.com - I just checked - *HURRY*, they have 'em
on sale now for *10 bucks*!
-Kenny
--
Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-8181
Work: See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers! (510) 745-0101
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From: BSD Bob the old greybeard BSD freak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com
(Cobalt servers)?
Date: 8 May 2001 20:59:19 GMT
In comp.unix.solaris Jim Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are freeBSDs available for other less popular platforms (like
> m68k), but AFAIK Linux, and in particular Debian is way ahead in being
> ported to other architectures.
Above is very wrong. Although Linux runs OK on Sparc, it is nowhere
near as bulletproof as OpenBSD or NetBSD, for general use, in my hands.
As for a range of architectures, NetBSD has Linux beat by a mile,
with OpenBSD a close second. That is not to put Linux down. It has
come a long way since the 0.95 days. Still, Linux gets the press and
the hype, and gets better all the time. Ya gotta give it credit for
that. What will be most interesting is how the Caldera-UNIX bits
shake down into Linux. Begetting of SysV Linux == UNIX? Mebbie.
I can hear it now, Branded UNIX Linux....(:+}}...
Bob
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From: Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backing up Windows on Linux
Date: 08 May 2001 14:18:52 -0700
"Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Ronald Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > How about <http://www.amanda.org/>?
>
> Nice. I'll look at it. I finally got through to the arkeia.
Amanda is on the RedHat Powertools CD.
--
Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA 93556-1412
Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phone: (760) 499-9142
President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152
My GPG fingerprint: C3AF 4BE9 BEA6 F1C2 B084 4A88 8851 E6C8 69E3 B00B
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From: "C. Newport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Why is Sun selling Linux-based PC Server Applicances on www.sun.com
(Cobalt servers)?
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 22:24:54 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathan Dorfman wrote:
>
> "C. Newport" wrote:
> > Take a look at http://www.slackware.com/ for a decent Sparc linux
> > which runs OK on anything from an IPC to an Ultra.
> > No bloat, 96Mb iso image.
>
> There isn't a slackware/sparc ISO image, is there? 7.1, the latest
> release, does not support sparc yet. I only see sparc bits in the
> slackware-current directory.
>
> If there is an installable slackware/sparc iso somewhere, I'd love
> to hear about it! Heh.
Go to the website and look again - it is right there on the front page.
The Sparc current is 7.1, it is ahead of the rest.
--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm
not sure about the universe. [Albert Einstein].
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