Linux-Hardware Digest #881, Volume #14 Fri, 8 Jun 01 14:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help New Server (Bob)
Re: Recommended Linux Reference Books?? (SteveCampbell)
Re: Modem Prob ("Robert")
Re: Help New Server (Jurij Smakov)
Re: MODEM PCTel HSP56 AMR on PCCHIPS M810 ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: MODEM PCTel HSP56 AMR on PCCHIPS M810 ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Help!! - SB16 no longer work after I install Bastille Security - Help!! ("MrEye")
Re: MODEM PCTel HSP56 AMR on PCCHIPS M810 (Robert Heiling)
Re: Two tulip ethernet cards in a single RH 6.2 machine? (Kenneth Crudup)
Re: Recommended Linux Reference Books?? (Rod Smith)
Re: Modem Prob ("kaidemuyo!")
Re: AC'97 sound chips on board - no sound in RedHat 7.0 (Giles Morant)
ms timer in linux (ioana marian)
Re: ATA/100 Setup ("Peter Scully")
Re: New Server: Hardware under Linux ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: Can't even recognize Promise Ultra100TX2 without kernel params, and can't enable
dma... HELP! (Chris de Vidal)
Re: Help!! - SB16 no longer work after I install Bastille Security - Help!! (Kevin
Croxen)
arkeia command line version... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob)
Subject: Re: Help New Server
Date: 8 Jun 2001 07:18:51 -0700
André David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > I am thinking of making a computer I have into a server.
> > It is
> > Asus a7v KT133 Motherboard
> > AMD 1 gig.
> > SB 16 sound
> > Gforce Mx 32 meg video
> > 256 133 mem.
> > I need help on where to get all the drivers and stuff to load Red Hat 7.1
> > I have computer knowledge of PC and Windows but this is my
> > First attempt at Linux.
> > Any help is appreciated and Thanks in advance.
> > Bob
>
> There a few things my 2 cents don't understand:
>
> - You're making a server on a A7V?
> - Being a server you care more about the Gforce being supported, rather
> than performance issues?
> - Being your "First attempt at Linux" you are aiming at building a
> server?
>
> Sorry, but it looks like you don't know what a server is...
> Then again you don't seem interested in knowing what hw is best at
> serving what.
>
> So, GLJ
>
> Andre
>
> GLJ - "Good luck, Jim."
LIke I said Jim I am new at this and was in need of some advice on
where to look for help. How you got I am only interested in my video
card from my message is beyond me. As far as your post it gave nothing
to me on anykind of help. All that you gave was criticism on my lack
of knowledge of a server.
I hope all your post are not like this to new people trying to get
help on Linux
What I am trying to make is a simple web server for a simple web page.
Perhaps you should take note to the post that John gave as his had
help and 2 links for additional help.
Thanks John for the post and Jim take some lessons at being
professional from John
Bob
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From: SteveCampbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommended Linux Reference Books??
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:22:33 +0100
X_Factor6 wrote:
> what are some good reference books for Linux?? I already have a couple
> from
> O'reilly & Associates. Let me know Thanks.
>
> X_Factor6
>
>
>
>
>
the best and most relevant docs are on your system ot at www.linuxdoc.org
having said that, you are probably like me and much prefer printed stuff
you can relax with over a coffee. Just remember that other source of info
as it is invaluable.
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From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Prob
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 10:23:32 -0400
In article <9fql0i$n09$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "kaidemuyo!"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "> >
>> AFAIK there is no linux driver for the 2.4 kernel but there is for the
> 2.2x
>> http://www.olitec.com
>> Just click on the penquin and follow the links. HTH
>> Robert_L
>> --
>> Registered Linux user #214645
>> remove spamfree when replying directly
>>
>>
> Does that mean that drivers compiled based on a specific kernel version
> are not backwards-compatible with newer kernels? with linux, there's
> more than one way to do stuff, right?
>
>
Do you mean "forwards compatible"? All I know is that I had the driver
for 2.2.17 working in mandrake 7.2 and it would not work (as they
insist) in Mandrake 8.0 and the 2.4 kernel. If you really know what you
are doing perhaps you COULD make it work, I don't know. Perhaps a
someone will come up with a patch. For myself, I went out and bought a
hardware modem.
Best of luck in any case,
Robert_L
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From: Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help New Server
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:32:26 +0200
On 8 Jun 2001, Bob wrote:
> LIke I said Jim I am new at this and was in need of some advice on
> where to look for help. How you got I am only interested in my video
> card from my message is beyond me. As far as your post it gave nothing
> to me on anykind of help. All that you gave was criticism on my lack
> of knowledge of a server.
> I hope all your post are not like this to new people trying to get
> help on Linux
> What I am trying to make is a simple web server for a simple web page.
> Perhaps you should take note to the post that John gave as his had
> help and 2 links for additional help.
> Thanks John for the post and Jim take some lessons at being
> professional from John
> Bob
Hi!
Server is something which sits in a preferably locked and air-conditioned
room, connected to network and performing some predetermined task. It
definitely does not need a sound card or a fancy graphics card, not to
mention monitor and keyboard. If You need a machine that will only act
a web server and not planning to use it as a desktop, why not to go with a
100 MHz 486, 32 MB of RAM, 1 GB disk and some cheap network card? Usually
You can get something like this for free (maybe people will pay YOU to get
this stuff off their hands ;-), but nevertheless it will give you enough
experience in Linux installation and setup.
Hope that helped,
Jurij.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MODEM PCTel HSP56 AMR on PCCHIPS M810
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:46:49 +0200
Robert Heiling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> No. If it doesn't load, and it won't if it can't link, then anything
>> else is irrelevant. Post the error messages from insmod.
> I had made an error earlier in that the /usr/src/linux I was doing the
> make against was the Wolverine version 7.0x Beta so I had set up
> /usr/src/linux to be linux-2.4.2 and re-done the make before testing
> again. Here are the unresolved symbols from that, but they were the
> same both times.
They can't be the same. You have made a mistake.
Tell me .. did you do as required and link
/usr/include/linux -> /usr/src/linux/include/linux
/usr/include/asm -> /usr/src/linux/include/asm
/usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/linux-2.4.2
???
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol bh_mask
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol request_region
These are common symbols, grep in /proc/ksyms for them and you should
see them. They're part of the base kernel.
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol IntrOpen
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol bh_active
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol release_region
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol kfree_s
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol IntrClose
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol timer_table
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol IntrWrite
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol bh_base
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol check_region
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol timer_active
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol bh_mask_count
Show the output of
grep bh_mask /proc/ksyms
please.
It is probable that you have forgotten to match eithe the SMP or the
MODVERSIONS setting fo your kernel sources against that of your running
kernel. I.e. you are not using the config file that belongs to your
running kernel. Please use it.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MODEM PCTel HSP56 AMR on PCCHIPS M810
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:51:23 +0200
Robert Heiling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> make against was the Wolverine version 7.0x Beta so I had set up
> /usr/src/linux to be linux-2.4.2 and re-done the make before testing
> again. Here are the unresolved symbols from that, but they were the
> same both times.
> pctel.o: unresolved symbol bh_mask
OK .. I was wrong. The problem is what you have done, not what you have
not done. The pctel code you have appears to be for kernel 2.2, not
kernel 2.4. The bh_mask symbol is not exported in 2.4 kernels.
Either use a 2.2. kernel, or get pctel code for a 2.4 kernel.
Peter
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From: "MrEye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Help!! - SB16 no longer work after I install Bastille Security - Help!!
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:00:24 -0400
try installing another distribution!! Sorry I could not be more help.
"whoelse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9flfh1$4u1et$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I setup my sb16 with sndconfig and it has been working until yesterday I
> installed Bastille. I cant hear a thing now in KDE, Xmms and sndconfig -
> nothing.
>
> Is it really cause by Bastille? How can this be?
> What other thing can I check??
>
> I want my sb16 back :(
>
>
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From: Robert Heiling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MODEM PCTel HSP56 AMR on PCCHIPS M810
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:45:54 -0700
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Robert Heiling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > make against was the Wolverine version 7.0x Beta so I had set up
> > /usr/src/linux to be linux-2.4.2 and re-done the make before testing
> > again. Here are the unresolved symbols from that, but they were the
> > same both times.
>
> > pctel.o: unresolved symbol bh_mask
>
> OK .. I was wrong. The problem is what you have done, not what you have
> not done. The pctel code you have appears to be for kernel 2.2, not
> kernel 2.4. The bh_mask symbol is not exported in 2.4 kernels.
>
> Either use a 2.2. kernel, or get pctel code for a 2.4 kernel.
>
> Peter
Yes, that code is for an older kernel, but I was hoping that it would also
work with 2.4. Luckily perhaps<g>, I just found and downloaded a tar for
someone else's pctel code that is supposedly a 2.4 version. We'll see how
that goes now.
Thanks again for all your help!
Bob
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Subject: Re: Two tulip ethernet cards in a single RH 6.2 machine?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:09:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja) says:
>You should not share interrupts, it will spell trouble
This is untrue; *every* machine I has at least two devices sharing IRQs.
PCI was *made* for it, and I don't run Windows.
-Kenny
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Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-8181
Work: See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers! (510) 745-0101
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Recommended Linux Reference Books??
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:15:01 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <VFST6.30136$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"X_Factor6" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> what are some good reference books for Linux?? I already have a couple from
> O'reilly & Associates. Let me know Thanks.
The field of Linux books is pretty broad. There are tutorial books,
reference books, etc.; and these cover Linux generally, Linux
networking, Linux programming, etc., as well as sub-sets of these (like
books on specific servers). I've got a Web page with suggestions in
several categories at http://www.rodsbooks.com/books/. (That page
features my own books, so I can't claim to be an unbiased source of
information. ;-) Sub-pages include some suggestions on books by others,
though.)
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: "kaidemuyo!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Prob
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:21:51 +0800
Damn. And that's the second PCI modem I bought this month cause I lost the
drivers to my cheaper-ass modem! (sob).
How am I GONNA MAKE IT work??? Man, I gotta buy I new modem? AND I SPENT TWO
DAYS downloading a 650meg image file! ARRGH!
> >
> >
> Do you mean "forwards compatible"? All I know is that I had the driver
> for 2.2.17 working in mandrake 7.2 and it would not work (as they
> insist) in Mandrake 8.0 and the 2.4 kernel. If you really know what you
> are doing perhaps you COULD make it work, I don't know. Perhaps a
> someone will come up with a patch. For myself, I went out and bought a
> hardware modem.
> Best of luck in any case,
> Robert_L
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Giles Morant)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,tw.bbs.comp.linux,hk.comp.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AC'97 sound chips on board - no sound in RedHat 7.0
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:37:24 +0000 (UTC)
Wilson Ng ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: My on-board sound chip VIA AC97 audio controller (WDM) works fine with
: WinME. I tried to run sndconfig to enable the sound in my Linux
: installation in RedHat 7.0. The program detected that the sound device is
: VIA82cxxx. After I confirm the autoprobe was done and my system hangs. I
: rebooted Linux and the startup freeze when starting the sound module.
: Any body can help?
: Thanks, Wilson.
This is a FAQ. Look back through dejanews or google groups. Basically,
all you need to do in install the ALSA sound drivers from
http://www.alsa-project.org IIRC. Quite straightforward and my machine
works perfectly for playing mp3s &c. -- I don't do MIDI or anything
complicated with it.
Giles Morant
--
Giles RC Morant
http://www.morants.demon.co.uk/giles
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ioana marian)
Subject: ms timer in linux
Date: 8 Jun 2001 10:15:41 -0700
Hi,
I need to get some computational times,
in order of a few ms < 10ms.
I use the clock function, but this has a resolution of 10ms.
Is there any other timer that I can use to
obtain an accuracy of 1ms ? I am runing on a
Linux 2.2 with an Intel Pentium III.
thank you
ioana marian
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From: "Peter Scully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATA/100 Setup
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:21:24 +0800
Unless you are running a proxy, you probably should install your new drive
under windows, where you can run games on it - that's what windos is for,
playing games. Linux is great for serious stuff, but as I said, unless you
need it for server space, Linux isn't memory hungry...
"syxxpac023" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Currently, I have the following setup. I have Windows installed on 2
> GB partition of my main IDE drive. On the other 8 GBs is Linux. I
> have the dual boot and all of that nice stuff. I also have a 40 GB
> ATA HDD that is on a Promise ATA-100 PCI Card. I am running RedHat
> 7.0.. can anyone give me some insight on how to get this hard drive to
> work in Linux? Any help would be most appreciated. I know this is
> probably a stupid question but I'm pretty new at this stuff. Thanks
> in advance.
>
> Joey
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: New Server: Hardware under Linux
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:22:19 -0600
> I'd do software RAID in your case. I couldn't justify the
> extra cost for a fancy raid card when the Linux kernel's
> software RAID ought to do just fine in a two-disk RAID-1
> situation.
$150-$300 for a used card is well worth all of the fiddling that you'll
save, and will have added benefits as well. After using hardware RAID on
my servers, I'm even considering a small array on my home workstation....
steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris de Vidal)
Subject: Re: Can't even recognize Promise Ultra100TX2 without kernel params, and can't
enable dma... HELP!
Date: 8 Jun 2001 10:37:20 -0700
> > RedHat 7.1 comes with 2.4.2. When that didn't work, I downloaded 2.4.5.
> > And of course I made sure to include support for Promise cards. If
> > what you say is true, that the kernel should just recognize it, then my
> > guess is that the TX2 comes with a brand-new chipset that isn't
> > recognized by the kernel. ARGH!
I am using an Ultra100 TX2 add-on PCI card which uses the Promise
20268 chipset. I downloaded 2.4.5, enabled the chipset support during
compile-time, compiled, and installed the shiny new kernel. So I
rebooted and it didn't recognize it, right? Same thing you're seeing.
So I put two and two together... (you were close when you said you
read the UDMA HOWTO) I think that's where I saw that you have to pass
bootup options to the kernel.
What options? Well a quick "cat /proc/pci" shows the card in the list
as well as the i/o ports it is using. There are 5 i/o ports shown
which go something like this:
a: 0x9c00
b: 0xa000
c: 0xa400
d: 0xa800
e: 0xac00
The options you pass to the kernel are:
ide2=a,b+2 ide3=c,d+2
So in my case:
ide2=0x9c00,0xa002 ide3=0xa400,0xa802
I put the line in my lilo.conf (under the correct image section) with
an append:
...
...
label=linux
append="ide2=0x9c00,0xa000 ide3=0xa400,0xa802"
Saved it, ran lilo, rebooted, and *poof*, the hard drive was
recognized.
I am using 2 hard drives, one on the motherboard's port and one on the
Promise controller. I dunno what you should do to get it to boot off
of it, though, but I suspect it would be a similar fix, except you
would specify ide0 and 1 (assuming the chipset was built-into the
motherboard).
I also should mention that this fix should work for any of the Promise
UDMA 202XX cards such as the FastTrack66 or 100 or the Ultra66 or
others... look at the largest black chip on the controller to see
what chipset you are using.
Good luck,
CD
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Help!! - SB16 no longer work after I install Bastille Security - Help!!
Date: 8 Jun 2001 17:56:25 GMT
Does lsmod list the sb module as still being loaded?
Does sound work as root? If so, then the permissions of /dev/dsp and
/dev/mixer are set so that the user accounts can't access them.
--Kevin
In article <9fqp7k$cvn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MrEye wrote:
>try installing another distribution!! Sorry I could not be more help.
>"whoelse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:9flfh1$4u1et$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I setup my sb16 with sndconfig and it has been working until yesterday I
>> installed Bastille. I cant hear a thing now in KDE, Xmms and sndconfig -
>> nothing.
>>
>> Is it really cause by Bastille? How can this be?
>> What other thing can I check??
>>
>> I want my sb16 back :(
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: arkeia command line version...
Date: 8 Jun 2001 11:00:40 -0700
I'm trying to find a step by step way of backing up to a tape library
(spectralogic treefrog) with arkeia command line version. If anyone
has done this (even w/out a library) please post your steps from
setting up the drives and savepacks (etc...) to an interactive backup.
Here is what I posted on the Arkeia newsgroup w/no responce. This is
an attempt at a NULL backup (just a test run) so if you see any flaws
(which is very possible ;) ) please correct me:
====================
ok, I'll post my trials and results...I'm sure I'm missing something
here,
but I'm still a little unclear on the exact flow of information from
clients->server->backup medium.
here is my bootup scsi info:
(scsi1:0:1:0) Synchronous at 20.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 8.
Vendor: SONY Model: SDX-300C Rev: 04c7
Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Vendor: SPECTRA Model: 215 Rev: 1010
Type: Medium Changer ANSI SCSI revision: 02
here are the commands I am running to attempt a test:
# arkc -drive -create -D name=TEST type=NULL rewind_dev=/dev/st0
# arkc -drivepack -create -D name=TESTPACK type=NULL
# arkc -pool -create -D name=TESTPOOL type=NULL
# arkc -tape -create -D name=TESTTAPE type=NULL
(my first question is how do I know /dev/st0 is correct?)
# arkc -library -create -D name=TESTLIB type=SL2000-15 libdev=/dev/sga
(again, how can I see if /dev/sga is correct?)
# arkc -savepack -create -D name=TESTSAVE tree_name=ghengis:/home
(ghengis is the localhost)
# arkc -backup -start -D skname=TESTSAVE plname=TESTPOOL
dkname=TESTPACK
After running this command I have these log entries:
in arkeiam231.lg1 these message is repeated many times:
2001/06/06 03:19:09 E1110080 arkeiam231 (31229) devopen [L289]: bad
end:
Can't open device "/dev/st0" (19: No such device)
2001/06/06 03:19:09 E1202220 arkeiam231 (31229) o3_open_mt [L417]: bad
end:
No message
2001/06/06 03:19:09 E1106150 arkeiam231 (31229) snd_pipe_msg [L292]:
bad end
(11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
2001/06/06 03:19:09 E1106210 arkeiam231 (31229) snd_dial_or_tamtam
[L449]:
bad end
in arkeia.jl2, these lines appear at the beginning:
2001/06/06 03:13:59 W080006 S991822439 Start of backup: Savepack
"TESTSAVE",
Drivepack "TESTPACK", Pool "TESTPOOL"
2001/06/06 03:13:59 W080006 S991822439 Owner is "root"
2001/06/06 03:13:59 I080003 S991822439 Adding savepack "TESTSAVE"
2001/06/06 03:13:59 I080010 S991822439 Loading tape 'TESTTAPE' in
drive
'TEST'
2001/06/06 03:13:59 I080030 S991822439 Unloading tape from drive
'TEST'
and the last two of those lines repeat for about 500,000 lines then
finally
ends like this:
2001/06/06 03:19:21 I080003 S991822439 "0" files, "0" MB, compressed
at
"1.0", "0" seconds, "0" MB/mn
2001/06/06 03:19:21 W080003 S991822439 End of backup
ummmm...I'm trying to think of anything else...I'm guessing someone
will be
able to tell me what I did wrong just be seeing what I entered, but
I've
posted this log info just in case. Please let me know if you need any
more
info...
Dan
P.S. IBM Netfinity 600Mhz, 256MB RAM, Redhat 6.2 w/2.2.14 kernel...
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