Linux-Hardware Digest #895, Volume #14 Tue, 12 Jun 01 18:13:13 EDT
Contents:
optimal configuration for linux ("gizzmo")
Re: Can anyone help me on a best notebook choice (Chris Cox)
Re: new SCSI disk (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Nikon CoolscanIII invisible to sane (Tomas)
Re: optimal configuration for linux ("Dave")
Re: Can anyone help me on a best notebook choice (Marek Williams)
Re: Nikon CoolscanIII invisible to sane ("Lars Preben S. Arnesen")
Dual channel SCSI, ide burner (Paul Bemowski)
Re: What's this SMP CPU error? (J Hayward)
Re: Can anyone help me on a best notebook choice (Pete Zaitcev)
Re: Starband on Linux ("Ron Bellomo")
Re: Request Recommendation on Hardware Needs ("david")
Re: Maximum RAM my processor can address? ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: What's this SMP CPU error? ("kyi")
Re: Capacity of Dell Server running as a web server? ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: Can anyone help me on a best notebook choice ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: "gizzmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: optimal configuration for linux
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:10:56 +0200
Hallo Everybody
I'm going to buy a new computer, but I'm wondering how it's going to be
working under Linux.
I want to buy an Athlon 1000 (266) and I wonder if anyone of you have used
that kind of procesor under Linux? And how it is working?
The second choice I have to do is the main board. I wanted to buy something
with RAID. But as I've heard there are some problems with it under Linux. :(
I also want to buy a modem. And I wonder what kind should I choose. I
thought about Pentagram Shadow, but I don't know if it is working fine under
Linux.
So I ask you for help.
Pawel
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From: Chris Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Can anyone help me on a best notebook choice
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:50:21 GMT
What's your definition of manufacturer? You'll get better
support from companies who make it their business to deliver
GNU/Linux based systems.
e.g.
http://www.emperorlinux.com
You may find the quality of the laptops to be much better too.
I do not have experience with the laptops they carry (which come
from pretty reputable sources), but the big players (Compaq, IBM,
Dell etc) interest is in reduced cost at the expense (excuse the
pun) of Linux compatibility.
Regards,
Chris
(Proud owner of a Hitachi Visionbook 7580-001... has everything
and everything works under Linux... haven't seen one like this
since)
Henry_Barta wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.portable Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The ThinkPad 600X is also a good machine--has a very good keyboard, and a
> > TrackPoint. Plus, IBM supports Linux in a way that Compaq has yet to
> > do.
>
> Does anyone other manufacturer support Linux on laptops?
>
> --
> Hank Barta White Oak Software Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Predictable Systems by Design.(tm)
> Beautiful Sunny Winfield, Illinois
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new SCSI disk
Date: 12 Jun 2001 19:38:07 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a problem with a DELL precision 420 running a 6.0 R.H. :
> "SCSI bus is being reseted for host channel 0"
> "SCSI host 0 channel0 reset (pid 15) timed out - trying harder".
Is your chain properly terminated? Is the ID of the new disk something
*other* than 0 (the ID of your existing disk) or 7 (the ID of the
controller)? Do you have a good cable? Is your chain properly
terminated (yes, check again)? Have you sacrificed the requisite
goat (it must be black, you know) and/or some of your own blood?
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: Tomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nikon CoolscanIII invisible to sane
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:40:49 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I am about to throw my filmscanner away :-(
No - of cause not.
The little program "find-scanner" locate my scanner:
root@jensen:/etc/sane.d > find-scanner
find-scanner: found scanner "Nikon COOLSCANIII 1.20" at device
/dev/scanner
find-scanner: found scanner "Nikon COOLSCANIII 1.20" at device /dev/sg0
find-scanner: found scanner "Nikon COOLSCANIII 1.20" at device /dev/sga
scanimage 1.0.2 reports (root@jensen:/etc/sane.d > scanimage -L)
Nothing.
During boot the following text shows that the scanner is found:
(scsi0) <Adaptec AIC-7850 SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 0/9/0
(scsi0) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 3/255 SCBs
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 415 instructions downloaded
scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.1.31/3.2.4
<Adaptec AIC-7850 SCSI host adapter>
scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: Nikon Model: COOLSCANIII Rev: 1.20
Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
I have a coolscan.conf:
scsi Nikon * Scanner
dll.conf contains:
coolscan
HELP!!!
Regards
Tomas Jensen
PS: reply to my e-mail as well, thanks
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From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: optimal configuration for linux
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:51:11 -0700
"gizzmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g5lvr$8d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hallo Everybody
>
> I'm going to buy a new computer, but I'm wondering how it's going to be
> working under Linux.
>
> I want to buy an Athlon 1000 (266) and I wonder if anyone of you have used
> that kind of procesor under Linux? And how it is working?
No problem with Athlon processors as far as I know. I just bought a 1.2 GHz
(266) T-bird Socket A with an ASUS A7V133
> The second choice I have to do is the main board. I wanted to buy
something
> with RAID. But as I've heard there are some problems with it under Linux.
:(
I heard RAID works, but not I don't think it's 100% with all hardware. I
would say the Promise controllers probably have the most support.
> I also want to buy a modem. And I wonder what kind should I choose. I
> thought about Pentagram Shadow, but I don't know if it is working fine
under
> Linux.
Get an external modem, ISA, or PCI controller-based hardware modem.
External is the best in my opinion. Try finding the Zoltrix rainbow. It's
great. It turns into a speaker phone if you plug in a microphone, and I
personally like externals because of the LEDs. And they are always
completely supportable by Linux. I'm actually getting data rates of 10
kBytes/second on this modem sometimes!!! I have never achieved this before
on a 56k modem. I assume it's compression in effect, but I've never had
this before.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marek Williams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Can anyone help me on a best notebook choice
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:53:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (felipemc) dijo a todos por la internet:
>- COMPAQ 12XL502
>- ACER TravelMate 200DX
>- ACER Notebook TravelMate 202T
>- Compaq ARMADA E500
I've had several different laptops and I have discovered that the
quality of Acer laptops is terrible. I've had to return every one of
them for service at least once to replace hardware components that
have failed. I believe part of the problem is that they run very hot.
I have no experience with any of the others on your list, however.
Don't reply to the e-mail address in the header. It's bogus. But
I read the newsgroup every day so post here.
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From: "Lars Preben S. Arnesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nikon CoolscanIII invisible to sane
Date: 12 Jun 2001 22:08:17 +0200
[ Tomas ]
> I am about to throw my filmscanner away :-(
Don't do it! :) I had to boot windows to get all the Nikon's features,
but I got tired of it. I started looking for a linux replacement for
the Windows scanner software and I found vuescan. It works really
well. The gui could be a nicer, but it works. The cleaning function is
also implemented.
<URL:http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html>
--
Lars Preben
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Bemowski)
Subject: Dual channel SCSI, ide burner
Date: 12 Jun 2001 13:29:33 -0700
I have a Dell Precision 410 with on-board dual channel SCSI and dual
channel eide controllers. I have a 4.5 GB scsi disk, scsi cdrom, and
30 GB eide (channel 0 master). I'm trying to add an HP 7500 cdrom
burner to IDE channel 1 master with ide-scsi.
I've read the groups up and down, but can't seem to find the answer to
why it's not working. I can't get it to recognize that damn burner.
boot seems to see 3 scsi hosts, but cdrecord -scanbus only scans 2 of
the 3 buses??
Generally this is what i did:
1) installed the hardware. IDE channel 1 master, the right jumper is
set on the drive
2) modprobe ide-scsi
3) added append="hdc=ide-scsi" to lilo.conf, ran lilo, rebooted
Here's some more verbose info:
bemo : /dev>dmesg|grep -i scsi
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
(scsi0) <Adaptec AIC-7890/1 Ultra2 SCSI host adapter> found at PCI
2/10/0
(scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 32/255 SCBs
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 392 instructions downloaded
(scsi1) <Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 2/14/0
(scsi1) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
(scsi1) Warning - detected auto-termination
(scsi1) Please verify driver detected settings are correct.
(scsi1) If not, then please properly set the device termination
(scsi1) in the Adaptec SCSI BIOS by hitting CTRL-A when prompted
(scsi1) during machine bootup.
(scsi1) Cables present (Int-50 NO, Int-68 NO, Ext-68 NO)
(scsi1) Downloading sequencer code... 422 instructions downloaded
scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI)
5.1.31/3.2.4
<Adaptec AIC-7890/1 Ultra2 SCSI host adapter>
scsi1 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI)
5.1.31/3.2.4
<Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra SCSI host adapter>
scsi : 2 hosts.
(scsi0:0:0:0) Synchronous at 80.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 31.
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
(scsi1:0:5:0) Synchronous at 20.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 15.
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 14x/32x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8910423 [4350 MB]
[4.4 GB]
scsi2 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 3 hosts.
bemo : /etc>cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg
Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 2.1.38
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'QUANTUM ' 'VIKING II 4.5WLS' '5520' Disk
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
1,0,0 100) *
1,1,0 101) *
1,2,0 102) *
1,3,0 103) *
1,4,0 104) *
1,5,0 105) 'NEC ' 'CD-ROM DRIVE:465' '1.03' Removable
CD-ROM
1,6,0 106) *
1,7,0 107) *
bemo : /etc>
Where's the scan of the scsi2 (ide-scsi) bus??
Any help is appreciated.
Paul Bemowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: J Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's this SMP CPU error?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:44:09 -0700
Anthony Ewell wrote:
Hi,
<snip..>
> Jun 11 14:43:53 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(08)
> Jun 11 14:43:54 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(04)
> Jun 11 14:43:54 server kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 02(02)
> Jun 11 14:43:54 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 04(02)
> Jun 11 14:43:57 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 02(04)
> Jun 11 14:43:59 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 04(08)
> Jun 11 14:43:59 server kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 02(04)
> Jun 11 14:46:09 server kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 04(02)
> Jun 11 14:46:58 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(08)
> Jun 11 14:47:39 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(08)
> Jun 11 14:48:27 server last message repeated 5 times
>
> Does anyone know what this error is and how to stop it?
Intel SMP boards support 'IO-APIC', which is an enhanced interrupt
controller, able to route hardware interrupts to multiple CPUs. Some
motherboards have "broken" support for 'IO-APIC', disable it by using with
"noapic" when booting. ie. at the boot prompt use: linux noapic
Regards,
Jim H
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Zaitcev)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Can anyone help me on a best notebook choice
Date: 12 Jun 2001 20:48:18 GMT
> > The ThinkPad 600X is also a good machine--has a very good keyboard, and a
> > TrackPoint. Plus, IBM supports Linux in a way that Compaq has yet to
> > do.
>
> Does anyone other manufacturer support Linux on laptops?
Dell Lattitude seems to be well supported, minus the usual
winmodem problem.
With Dell it seems to me that their laptops come in two varieties,
generally speaking: those made by Dell and rebadged. The actual
Dell laptops are supported as well as any other Dell hardware
by their Linux group. They fix BIOS bugs that affect Linux
even if Windows work, for one thing. Unfortunately, Austin
people seem not to have decent information about "Dell" laptops
coming from Asia.
-- Pete
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From: "Ron Bellomo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starband on Linux
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:19:16 -0600
What are you doing for AS_AGENT ?? Any page accelerators available which =
work with Linux?
I am using a Windows box with as-agent as the page accelerator and point =
my RedHat machine to it for web page access. Are there other solutions?
"freedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message =
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:08:09 David J. Jasper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
wrote:
>Anyone get the satelite connection for Starband working on Linux?
>
>
I configured a Sun IPX running solaris to be a gateway for my network to =
a
starband 180. I could probably help with a Linux setup if you specific
questions.
--=20
Dick Freedman
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From: "david" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Request Recommendation on Hardware Needs
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:22:06 GMT
Thanks.
David
"Anthony DeRobertis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <VpbU6.2705$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "david"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Here is some information:
> >
> > 1) Under 50 users now and would like the system to easily handle
> > 150+
> > users
>
> Make sure you figure out if that's 50 users sending small text-based
> messages or 50 middle-managers mailing 1.5MB powerpoint presentations
> incessantly. If it's the latter, make sure you've got plenty of disk.
>
> > 2) Plan on using Samba for file/print/NT authentication
>
> SWAT (Samba Web Admin Tool) makes this real easy. Note that Samba 2.0.*
> doesn't do NT domains, though.
>
>
> > 1) Do you (you meaning anyone who is kind enough to respond)
> > recommend a
> > system built as a server or PC, or does it matter?
>
> Well, if you want to rack-mount it, it's going to matter. Other than
> that, just make sure you have room for the disks. I say this because I
> spent two days fighting disks into a 4U. Oddly, it looks like our 2U's
> have more room for disks, and better cooling *shrug.*
>
> > 2) What spec's do you recommend:
> > a) Ram -
>
> 256 should be fine to start with. If you need more, you can always run to
> $COMPUTER_STORE and get it for under $50/128MB.
>
> > b) HD's -
>
> Cheap IDE. You should be able to pull off 120GB of disk for < $500. Run
> RAID5, and you've got 80GB of failure-protected disk. [Depending on you
> file serving needs, you can go higher or lower for not too much price
> difference]
>
> > d) Other -
>
> Possibly a Promise or HighPoint PCI IDE controller. Both of these may
> require a kernel recompile, and possible patching, though.
>
>
> I'd recommend software RAID. It works well, can be used on partitions as
> well as disks, and costs much less than a $500 RAID card.
>
> Make sure your IDE disks run in ATA-66 or better modes. Make sure you
> have the IDE cables to support that.
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
Subject: Re: Maximum RAM my processor can address?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:19:07 -0600
> If you are using win95 then I think this has a maximum limit of 64 mb
that
> it can see,
Nope, it can see quite a bit more than that. If anything, Win 95 is
better at "seeing" how much RAM you have than Linux. No, I'm not
starting a flame-war - just being honest. I've never had to add
"mem=512M" to a Windows configuration. : )
(of course, even though it "sees" the RAM in more situations than Linux
will, it still doesn't use it half as effectively.)
Steve
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From: "kyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's this SMP CPU error?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:37:45 -0700
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Better yet. Reboot your computer and go into the bios setup, and look
for the APIC setting. It should allow you to set the revision level,
the versions are probably 1.1 & 1.5, just change it to the other
setting ( other then the one you are using ). Then boot the computer
and look at the logs again. Also you should recompile the latest
kernel (
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.5.tar.gz )
w/SMP support and see if that fixes that problem, 'cause I seriously
doubt that a board that can do piii600's will have a broken bios ( I
have a supermicro p6dge w/ 500piii's and don't have this issue at all
) my board is probably 2 1/2 years old now and I have never seen this
error occur. If you still have problems, post some more info about
your hardware setup, and even email me directly if you want.
- -Jayson
http://linux.microbsys.com
J Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7avV6.59795$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Anthony Ewell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> <snip..>
> > Jun 11 14:43:53 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(08)
> > Jun 11 14:43:54 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(04)
> > Jun 11 14:43:54 server kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 02(02)
> > Jun 11 14:43:54 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 04(02)
> > Jun 11 14:43:57 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 02(04)
> > Jun 11 14:43:59 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 04(08)
> > Jun 11 14:43:59 server kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 02(04)
> > Jun 11 14:46:09 server kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 04(02)
> > Jun 11 14:46:58 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(08)
> > Jun 11 14:47:39 server kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(08)
> > Jun 11 14:48:27 server last message repeated 5 times
> >
> > Does anyone know what this error is and how to stop it?
>
> Intel SMP boards support 'IO-APIC', which is an enhanced interrupt
> controller, able to route hardware interrupts to multiple CPUs.
> Some motherboards have "broken" support for 'IO-APIC', disable it
> by using with "noapic" when booting. ie. at the boot prompt use:
> linux noapic
>
> Regards,
> Jim H
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Capacity of Dell Server running as a web server?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:30:01 -0600
> I was wondering if someone could que me in on what kind of capacity I
> might possibly get from a Dell 2500 series server running Red Hat 7.0
> (or 7.1) as a web server that accesses mysql on the same machine. I'm
> just looking for a rough estimate based on experience. The machine
> will be dedicated to this task. I'm assuming that the network isn't a
> bottle neck to the machine, but if you could tell me what kind of
> connection you think would be necessary to max out this machine, I
> would appreciate that information too.
>
> The specs on the machine are:
> 2 - 933Mhz Pentium III processors
> 1 GB of RAM - PC 133 ECC
> 3 - 18 GB 10,000RPM SCSI drives using RAID 5
You've got a pretty good capacity, but there are certainly limitations:
1. Running the database server on the same machine as the web server
isn't the best solution, as two heavy queries will monopolize the CPU's,
slowing down the serving of static files such as images and HTML.
2. MySQL only does well with three or fewer simultaneous connections,
above that, it's performance really sucks. (see www.greatbridge.com for
benchmarking performance under various numbers of connections.)
PostgreSQL is the only DBMS out of MySQL, MS SQL, and Oracle that truly
can scale efficiently, and in a web-serving environment, it's very common
to have many simultaneous queries running.
That being said, the ultimate capacity will, of course, depend on what
you're serving. If you're serving out nothing but flat files, I'm sure
that you could fill a 100 mbit line, handling tens to hundreds of millions
of hits per day. If you're doing any sort of CGI, that number drops
dramatically, and if you're also doing DB work, that number also drops
very dramatically.
Assuming a little bit of DB work, but not terribly complex queries, you
should be able to do at least 150,000 hits per day. If the DB work is
more complex, that will drop. As you reach the capacity of the machine,
you'll notice that your traffic will tend to level out, rather than
continuing going - there's a negative-feedback loop, where the more
heavily-loaded the machine, the slower it's response, and the fewer people
will stay there. I've seen traffic numbers almost double within a couple
of days of upgrading to faster servers. : )
When you do get to the point when the machine won't handle it, get
another machine just for database work.
Oh - as to what sort of connection you'll need to max out the machine,
it depends on the "cost" of executing the CGI and DB work, and the size of
your result set. If you're doing a fair amount of DB work (like my
company does), then it will take a lot of very powerful CPU's to even fill
a megabit of bandwidth. We currently use a little over 9 GHz of
processor power between DB and CGI servers to do that much - but if we
were just serving static pages, we could probably fill that much bandwidth
with a single Pentium. : )
steve
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Can anyone help me on a best notebook choice
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:36:31 +0200
In comp.os.linux.hardware Marek Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (felipemc) dijo a todos por la internet:
>>- COMPAQ 12XL502
>>- ACER TravelMate 200DX
>>- ACER Notebook TravelMate 202T
>>- Compaq ARMADA E500
> I've had several different laptops and I have discovered that the
> quality of Acer laptops is terrible. I've had to return every one of
Agreed, by what I've seen of them (and they're very much sold here in
spain - and always hawked by my suppliers, who I gently laugh at when
they offer me one).
However, a general law of computer science is that you should never buy
a compaq. They classically have proprietary parts that cannot be
replaced and are never kept in stock.
I prefer to buy toshibas (all parts are generic, just rebadged, and they
have service outlets everywher). ibm thinkpads (clunky, but service
parts available everywhere), and sony vaios (unservicable, but
beautiful).
> them for service at least once to replace hardware components that
> have failed. I believe part of the problem is that they run very hot.
Always buy slower cpus for laptops. 200MHz is quite enough for a
computer, but buying any cpu that's a generation behind gets you a cool
machine, hence a happier machine all round.
Peter
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