Hi

Vadim Vygonets wrote:
> 
> Quoth Vadim Smelyansky on Wed, Jun 09, 1999:
> > On Sat, 22 May 1999, Isaac Aaron wrote:
> > 
> > IA>  "Lack of a Journaling file system -
> > IA>  file system may not recover after
> > IA>  unplanned downtime"
> > IA>- Since I don't know of any journaling capabilities
> > IA>of the ext2, I suppose they're right.
> >     What rigth? second statement - lie. I tried several times to press
> > reset - its recover - beleave me, and NT does not :)
> 
> Not always.  Sometimes, when you press reset, Linux filesystem
> ends up in a completely broken state.  It doesn't happen much,
> though -- happened to me only several times.

I must add, that there are things that e2fsck can't fix at all - e.g.
I once had a hardware problem, and fsck moved some files to
/lost+found, with permissions that didn't let me delete them
no matter what I did. I had to remove them manually with debugfs.
OTOH, just today my colleague reinstalled NT on a server with 4
data disks, and the new NT could not recognize 2 of them (each
had an NTFS partition on the whole disk). You can't fsck (chkdsk?)
an unrecognized fs, can you?

> 
> >     Usually I silently press reset on linux box to answer customer
> > question: "What happened if power go away?"
> 
> Hmm.  Usually I just silently cut my hand with a knife to answer
> customer question: "What happened if you are not careful and cut
> yourself accidentially?".  Surely, the body will heal itself in
> few days, but it's not the desirable situation.

Although I agree, if you do it after 30 (as a default) seconds of
total inactivity, and let update sync, you are (almost) completely
safe.

> 
> Vadik.
> 
> -- 
> Any language that involves exposing private parts to friends is a
> tad suspect...
>       -- Geoff Lane in the Monastery, about C++
> 
> 

        didi

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