Basically I believe Nadav is right.
However, I did subscribed iglu because I see no other alternative. Seems that
many linux-il members have joined, and not joining would left me behind.
Still, if it was up to me then I would prefer the previous state: no ilug,
just linux-il.
>
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote:
>
> > Did you think that maybe most people didn't even bother to send you their
> > objections? How many people are on linux-il - 500? (I'm just guessing - it
> > would be nice to get an official figure!) How many people wanted a new
> > mailing list - 5?
>
> actually, objecting to the new mailing list is irelevant - it's just like
> if you object to a mailing list i mighy open anywhere that has any kind of
> purpose. the new mailing list (iglu) has _nothing_ to do with linux-il,
> except perhaps for the random fact that some people happen to be reading
> both of them - and that's true for any two mailing lists.
>
> > I think that a new mailing list will only cause more confusion, *much*
> > double posting, and having to read both, which is why I don't like the idea.
> > That is unless they have *really* different agenda - but in that case you're
> > running a big risk that most people will read only one: if you have a mailing
> > list with only Linux-activisim, who would want to read it? if you have a
> > mailing list specifically for newbies it's nice - but don't expect experienced
> > people to join it.
>
> i'm truly surprised at your attitude, nadav. if you don't want to join a
> different mailing list - don't. actually, what you _think_ about who will
> join it - does not, and should not matter. those who'll join - will. those
> who won't join - won't. i've learned that opposing to new mailing lists
> simply does not make sense.
>
> > > This is IGLU and that's what we hope to make it. Anyone asking about
> > > basic kernel compile woes, tcpd and qpopper questions, wu-ftpd config
> > > and ipppd, go to IGLU. If you have questions about programming sockets
> > > in perl, flying pigs' kernel drivers and hacking on Fribidi GtK widgets,
> > > linux-il is the place to roam.
> >
> > I'm sorry - I didn't understand the difference at all (qpopper=IGLU, perl=
> > LINUX-IL?), and I'm sure many people won't either - causing a high
> > number of crossposts (or worse: some threads will appear only on one
> > of the mailing lists).
>
> it's the attitude that's supposed to be different. the attitude. don't say
> you weren't warned... linux-il is a place of lat resort to people who have
> technical linux questions. iglu, as ira pointed out, is more for lending a
> helping hand to a different type of audiance. by this nature - it does not
> need to have a bunch of gurus there. it'll make more sense if people who
> have passed the initial edge will join that list, in a true will to help
> others take the step they have just completed. if you don't have the time,
> will, drive or what-not to join that list - don't do that.
>
> > > We hope thus to help everyone, and help maintain the flow of mail. I
> > > don't know about others here, but some of us don't read mail on saturday
> > > (religious reasons, a very romantic weekend with the SO in the snow, or
> > > just hate checking the work Email account on weekends), and opening the
> > > linux-il folder on sunday to find ~40 messages waiting is kinda
> > > frustrating :-)
> >
> > Splitting the group won't do any good in that respect - someone who wants
> > to read both will still get all these messages, and even more, and now will
> > have to skim through duplicate messages :)
>
> what groups is being split? i don't see any group splitting. anybody else
> sees such an horrid act commited here? :P~~
>
> btw, if you realy know how to set up procmail, can't you filter those
> so-called duplicates based on some mail ID? isn't the letter ID of the
> original poster kept on messages forwarded out by the mailing list?
>
> guy
>
> "For world domination - press 1,
> or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
>
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