On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Ira Abramov wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > > > are those translations built into PHP and Zope? > > > > No need to. For them this is simply a text string. They don't really care > > about its encoding (I believe). > > and when I send something by html POST or GET, the client sends it in > which encoding? the one of the page from which I posted? the default > one? the one the widget set picks (Qt/Gtk)? > > grrr... I wish it all just worked Unicode :) I believe that clients use the html page's codepage by default. So if the page has ISO-8859-8-i codepage, forms will be submitted in ISO-8859-8-i, and if the page is in UTF-8, forms will be submitted in UTF-8. At least this is how it worked for me. > > > Unless you need to do some sorting. I haven't given enough thoughts to > > that. > > Thoselittle things always get ya. well at the moment I am having > trouble installing postgreSQL with he_IL rather than C as the LANG. for > all I know maybe none of it is important... > > > > time to check out Hebrew for VIM. is it still a special compile time > > > option, or is it in by default? if anyone knows, please add this info to > > > the IGLU FAQ too... > > > > Not related to the "hebrew" support. > > well, to type Hebrew in VIM, like any other editor, it needs RTL > support. all the keytables and UTF can'tget around that, unless you use > "Karmeli" or read Hebrew text in LTR. I do it once in a while, but it > gives me brain hemorhedging. VIM's "RTL support" is that it mirrors the whole display (so you can see the hebrew properly, but not the englsih). I got used to work with it, for lack of better good alternative. Other alternatives: get the latest xterm (supports unicode) and the patch for bidi (already built into mandrake's xterm). Or run it under biditext. Or use the editor called QEmacs. > > heyyyy... anyone wants to translate a weblog to Karmeli? Adi, that's a > classic, you have to admit :) > > for all thosein the dark: http://www.karmeli.org/ > > > vim 6.0 added a number of relevant features: > > > > 1. a general-purpose keyboard layout facility (although we already had a > > hebrew and a farsy layouts) > > 2. Support for editing UTF-8 text files. > > ok, some research on my VIM 6.0.118 (latest Debian Sid for the rest of > you) and VIM 6.0z alpha (RHL 7.1 Seawolf), > BTW: mandrake 8.1 has 6.0-0.40mdk and it has a number of small bugs (a number of times it got into a 100% cpu loop when I killed it, and I had to use kill -9, for instance) > ":help rightleft.txt" is now ":help rightleft" which points in turn to > ":help rileft.txt" > > I was happy to find, that the rightleft option is compiled into the vim > deb and RPM packages mentioned. > > what it basically says, ":set rl" to flip screen, ":set hk" to translate > keyboard map when entering text (the double-shift hack to change xkb > won't do any good, and you want to have regular keymap when in command > mode anyway). See http://linux.org.il/pub/Hebrew/vimrc_hebrew It could use some editing, but it will give you some useful bindings. > > as for editing UTF-8, ":set encoding=utf-8" does the trick of setting > the encoding entered, OK. It definitly needs updating. > however I could not make it display it correctly > on Eterm, gnome-term or konsole I would try 'xterm -u8' and konsole, as they both should support unicode display. This also applies to the linux console, in a way. -- Tzafrir Cohen /"\ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
