On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> Ok, so let's re-arrange and clarify things :
> We are a private organization (not registered for now) and the hosting
> part is a separate part of what we mainly want to deal with.
> We had an offer - we took it. That simple.
> I don't see how's that interfering with everything else. Do you see
> banners and pop-up's at the main page ?
I didn't say it was interfering with anything. I was asking what's what.
I don't think banners would interfere with anything either, if you wanted
to have them there.
> Maybe we should move the hosting to another, less obvious part of the
> site.
It just needs to be clarified a bit on the site. Something like
"whatsup.org.il is an interspace dealer ..." etc.
As long as everything is up front why should there be a conflict?
Thanks,
Uri
http://translation.israel.net
>
> I think people got the picture (I hope) of what we are and what we are
> trying to deliver. And if not :
>
> Our purpose is to bring the community translated news and free support
> environment for Linux. That is all.
> We felt that there is a need, mainly by newbie's, to get news and
> support in their native language, and since no one done it before, we
> did.
> We are paying from our personal pockets for hosting the site, and
> putting all of our time and efforts into it, and its all done for the
> community.
> We don't make money off this, and for now, we don't intend to. This is
> what I mean when I say "non-commercial" .
> I hope you anderstand the diference.
> If the hosting page conflicts with that - sorry.
>
> Tal.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Uri Bruck
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:33 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: 'Linux-IL mailing list'
> > Subject: RE: Whatsup - Important updates
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > > Uri,
> > >
> > > 1) the domain : Co.il has a problem. I am guessing you are using
> > > actcom, because their DNS did not update (for some reason) with the
> > > new ip. We hosted there 2 years ago (?!), and still... It will be
> > > fixed soon.
> > >
> > > 2) statistics : does it really matter ? We are not having a
> > > competition here. So its 1500...1600...1400 . What's the
> > difference ?
> > > I know those statistics are not accurate, but it does the
> > job as far
> > > as getting a perspective .
> > I was talking about the perspective. If there is no
> > indication what is being measures, or in this counted, then
> > the numbers are meaningless.
> > > here. So its 1500...1600...1400 . What's the difference ?
> > If I see stats I like to know what they're stats of.
> > Otherwise, you might as well use warp factors, as you say,
> > what's the difference?
> >
> > >
> > > 3) interspace : being non-commercial means that as far as
> > the services
> > > the site provides, we do not charge users for those
> > services. We are
> > > acting as dealers for interspace for site-hosting, but it
> > has nothing
> > > to do with the main purpose of the site. The only reason we
> > accepted
> > > their request is because its Linux related, (it refers to
> > hosting on
> > > Unix only) . I know that its slightly conflicts with what I stated,
> > > but I'm sure you understand what I mean. ;)
> >
> > Regardless of the stated of the stated purpose of the site,
> > if you're dealers then you're some kind of a business entity.
> > How you deal with that is your business, of course, but you
> > give the impression of being a bit confused about the whole thing.
> >
> > Good Luck
> > Thanks,
> > Uri
> > http://translation.israel.net
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Tal.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Uri
> > > > http://translation.israel.net
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Yehuda Drori wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi Omer
> > > > > about then number of hits you can see it by your own just
> > > > going to our
> > > > > statistic page:
> > > > > http://whatsup.co.il/stats.php
> > > > > and this is only few weeks after we put ourselves on the
> > > > net and started
> > > > > publishing ... :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Yehuda Drori
> > > > > http://whatsup.co.il
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 19 March 2002 17:37, Omer Zak wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > > > Shai Bentin
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:09 PM
> > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Whatsup - Important updates
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK, so what is it you may get in return for giving
> > > > exclusivity
> > > > > > > > to them? There must be something. If all you get is
> > > > > > > > exposure,
> > > > > > > > then I don't think it's worth it. MY OPINION!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, but bare in mind that we are talking about a huge
> > > > number of
> > > > > > > hits per day ! Currently, we get an average of
> > > > 1700-2000 hits, and
> > > > > > > joining forces with those guys can multiple
> > > > > > > That number by at least 20.
> > > > > > > This is something worth thinking about..
> > > > > > > Again - I am not sure what's the best step here. I am
> > > > hoping for more
> > > > > > > opinions from the list
> > > > > > > So we can decide.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this 1700-2000 hits per day or per week?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If per day, then this is very respectable figure for
> > (currently)
> > > > > > specialized Web site. I doubt very much you'll get
> > > > multiple of 20 by
> > > > > > sharing content with any popular portal. This is
> > because those
> > > > > > portals serve also people, who are not interested in
> > Linux. The
> > > > > > only portal, with which you should share content, is the
> > > > home page
> > > > > > of www.linux.org.il. This is the portal of choice for any
> > > > Israeli,
> > > > > > who is interested in Linux.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Omer
> > There is
> > > > > > no IGLU Cabal. The group of founders was
> > > > tempted to form
> > > > > > their group as a sub-committee of the All-Highest UNIX Flavors
> > > > > > Congress. Then they got lost in the labyrintine
> > politics of the
> > > > > > AHUFC. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at
> > > > > > http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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