> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Uri Bruck
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 12:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: 'Linux-IL mailing list'
> Subject: Re: Some clarifications !
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> 
> > Ok, so let's re-arrange and clarify things :
> > We are a private organization (not registered for now) and 
> the hosting 
> > part is a separate part of what we mainly want to deal 
> with. We had an 
> > offer - we took it. That simple. I don't see how's that interfering 
> > with everything else. Do you see banners and pop-up's at 
> the main page 
> > ?
> 
> I didn't say it was interfering with anything. I was asking 
> what's what. I don't think banners would interfere with 
> anything either, if you wanted to have them there.
> 
> > Maybe we should move the hosting to another, less obvious 
> part of the 
> > site.
> It just needs to be clarified a bit on the site. Something 
> like "whatsup.org.il is an interspace dealer ..." etc. As 
> long as everything is up front why should there be a conflict?

We are right about that. We will fix that tonight.


> 
> Thanks,
> Uri
> http://translation.israel.net
> 
> > 
> > I think people got the picture (I hope) of what we are and 
> what we are 
> > trying to deliver. And if not :
> > 
> > Our purpose is to bring the community translated news and 
> free support 
> > environment for Linux. That is all. We felt that there is a need, 
> > mainly by newbie's, to get news and support in their native 
> language, 
> > and since no one done it before, we did.
> 
> > We are paying from our personal pockets for hosting the site, and 
> > putting all of our time and efforts into it, and its all 
> done for the 
> > community. We don't make money off this, and for now, we 
> don't intend 
> > to. This is what I mean when I say "non-commercial" .
> > I hope you anderstand the diference.
> > If the hosting page conflicts with that - sorry.
> > 
> > Tal.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Uri Bruck
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:33 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: 'Linux-IL mailing list'
> > > Subject: RE: Whatsup - Important updates
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > > > Uri,
> > > > 
> > > > 1) the domain : Co.il has a problem. I am guessing you are using
> > > > actcom, because their DNS did not update (for some 
> reason) with the 
> > > > new ip. We hosted there 2 years ago (?!), and still... 
> It will be 
> > > > fixed soon.
> > > > 
> > > > 2) statistics : does it really matter ? We are not having a
> > > > competition here. So its 1500...1600...1400 . What's the 
> > > difference ?
> > > > I know those statistics are not accurate, but it does the
> > > job as far
> > > > as getting a perspective .
> > > I was talking about the perspective. If there is no
> > > indication what is being measures, or in this counted, then 
> > > the numbers are meaningless.
> > > > here. So its 1500...1600...1400 . What's the difference ?
> > > If I see stats I like to know what they're stats of.
> > > Otherwise, you might as well use warp factors, as you say, 
> > > what's the difference?
> > > 
> > >  >
> > > > 3) interspace : being non-commercial means that as far as
> > > the services
> > > > the site provides, we do not charge users for those
> > > services. We are
> > > > acting as dealers for interspace for site-hosting, but it
> > > has nothing
> > > > to do with the main purpose of the site. The only reason we
> > > accepted
> > > > their request is because its Linux related, (it refers to
> > > hosting on
> > > > Unix only) . I know that its slightly conflicts with what I 
> > > > stated,
> > > > but I'm sure you understand what I mean. ;)
> > > 
> > > Regardless of the stated of the stated purpose of the site,
> > > if you're dealers then you're some kind of a business entity. 
> > > How you deal with that is your business, of course, but you 
> > > give the impression of being a bit confused about the 
> whole thing. 
> > > 
> > > Good Luck
> > > Thanks,
> > > Uri
> > > http://translation.israel.net
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  >
> > > > Tal.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Uri
> > > > > http://translation.israel.net
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Yehuda Drori wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > hi Omer
> > > > > > about then number of hits you can see it by your own just
> > > > > going to our
> > > > > > statistic page:
> > > > > > http://whatsup.co.il/stats.php
> > > > > > and this is only few weeks after we put ourselves on the
> > > > > net and started
> > > > > > publishing ... :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Yehuda Drori
> > > > > > http://whatsup.co.il
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tuesday 19 March 2002 17:37, Omer Zak wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > > > > Shai Bentin
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:09 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Whatsup - Important updates
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > OK, so what is it you may get in return for giving
> > > > > exclusivity
> > > > > > > > > to them? There must be something. If all you get is
> > > > > > > > > exposure,
> > > > > > > > > then I don't think it's worth it. MY OPINION!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, but bare in mind that we are talking about a huge
> > > > > number of
> > > > > > > > hits per day ! Currently, we get an average of
> > > > > 1700-2000 hits, and
> > > > > > > > joining forces with those guys can multiple
> > > > > > > > That number by at least 20.
> > > > > > > > This is something worth thinking about..
> > > > > > > > Again - I am not sure what's the best step here. I am
> > > > > hoping for more
> > > > > > > > opinions from the list
> > > > > > > > So we can decide.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is this 1700-2000 hits per day or per week?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If per day, then this is very respectable figure for
> > > (currently)
> > > > > > > specialized Web site. I doubt very much you'll get
> > > > > multiple of 20 by
> > > > > > > sharing content with any popular portal.  This is
> > > because those
> > > > > > > portals serve also people, who are not interested in
> > > Linux.  The
> > > > > > > only portal, with which you should share content, is the
> > > > > home page
> > > > > > > of www.linux.org.il. This is the portal of choice for any
> > > > > Israeli,
> > > > > > > who is interested in Linux.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >                                              --- Omer
> > > There is
> > > > > > > no IGLU Cabal.  The group of founders was
> > > > > tempted to form
> > > > > > > their group as a sub-committee of the All-Highest UNIX 
> > > > > > > Flavors Congress.  Then they got lost in the labyrintine
> > > politics of the
> > > > > > > AHUFC. WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  see at
> > > > > > > http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
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