On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 11:51, Ely Levy wrote:
> so you think going to a program which someone spend hours on 
> planing and designing,
> or as people suggested before months of living off saving and working full
> time on it.
> and then someone comes after all this efford and say cool design/idea
> lets copy it and make it GPL, and ofcourse it takes him a lot less time
> cause the planing and desiging is already done. 
> 
> that is prefectly ok thing to do?

So you think going to a to a leagal argument which someone spend hours
on
planning and designing,
and then someone comes after all this effort and say cool argument/idea
lets copy it and put it as a precedentm and ofcourse it takes him a lot
less time
cause the planing and designing is already done.

that is perfectly ok thing to do.

Somehow, somwhere, somwehn the human race (or part thereof) came up with
the weird notions that ideas can be owned. The idea that ideas can be
somehow owned is downright stupid, even for no other reason other then
that no idea stands alone on its own right. If I come up with a new idea
it is based on a thousand others whehter I admit to that or not. The
algorythm I invented is based on several ideas that people worked hard
to think about but weren't so bloody greedy as to try to force other
people to pay them a buck each time they use it.
The old excuse of'ok, but what will all thos einventor eat if we can all
use their ideas for free' is downright dumb in light of all the ideas
that people *have* thought of and published. Genetics, Mathematics,
Computers, Algorythms are all made up from ideas of other people who
gave them to the world.

Gilad.

> 
> Ely Levy
> 
> 
> On 15 Jul 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Ely Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > no I don't have anything against GPL only against idea leechers.
> > 
> > Like Linus leeched Linux from the UNIX design?
> > Like Stallman leeched gcc from AT&T labs?
> > Like Larry Wall leeched Perl from the UNIX utilities?
> > Like GIMP leeched from Photoshop?
> > Like Miguel leeched midnight commander from norton commander?
> > 
> > Yeah, those idea leechers should be killed!
> > Hell, killing's too good them, they should be tortured, and *than* killed.
> > 
> > If youuse someone else's idea, why, it's as though you came to his house,
> > raped his mother and sister, killed his father, set fire to it, and then
> > danced around the fire! Only worse!
> > 
> > We should all just use our own ideas, and never read or see what someone
> > else did, and if we do (*by mistake*) learn of someone else's idea we should
> > forget it immediately. If we can't forget, we must approach that person and
> > offer him large sums of money to sell us a license to keep the idea in our
> > heads.
> > 
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Code mangler, senior coffee drinker and VP SIGSEGV
Qlusters ltd.

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      -- from a hackers-il thread on paranoia




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