On Tuesday 23 July 2002 05:36, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2002, Ilya Konstantinov wrote about "Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers": > > On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 06:09, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > > > What they aren't right in, IMHO, is that such 13 y.o teenagers should > > > get some life on their vacation instead of spending 18(sic!) hours a > > > day at a computer - actually becoming computeroholics. > > > > Oh, right, they should play some more football. Have more "life", > > according to your definition of "life". > > > > You're opening pandora's box on a geeks mailing list :) > > It is indeed arguable whether soccer constitutes a "better" pastime than > computer programming. But do you argue that 18 hours a day at a computer is a royal exaggeration even for an adult? Think about the eyes of the 13 year old kid - 18 hours at the computer is very serious eye strain even for an adult. Not to talk about his back. I'm not excluding computing as a pastime, but everything should be in some proportion. And - is there only football for a pastime? > But I think it is obvious (as this article also said) > that 13 year-old kids are not (in all likelyness) going to need skills of > how to protect heavy-duty servers. It's not like they are going to get a > job protecting some bank's servers (actually, seeing Israeli banks' > security recently, maybe they will ;)), and their home server doesn't need > heavy- duty protection. And generally they don't have one. And "computeroholics" who spend plenty of time at a computer, usually do that for two or three things - gaming, browsing, maybe cracking. > > So teaching kids cracking skills in the pretext that they are learning > how to "protect" servers is a really transparent attempt to teach them > illegal stuff. > The kids are much better off learning "generic" computer and programming > skills. As part of such generic studies, they might learn some advanced > stuff like TCP/IP and firewalling, which might be relevant to protecting > their machine - but they will mostly likely not need to learn "skills" > like where to download rootkits, how to write assembly-language payload > that does "stack smashing", how to write viruses and worms, and things > like that.
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