> >Remember - this will be the first Linux experience to people, and from
> > many people's experience a .0 version is NOT recommended to newbies at
> > all - same applies to Red Hat 8.0 (which still gives me lots of problems
> > compiling stuff)
>
> While I agree with most of the arguments presented by Hetz and other
> people, I still think that installing the latest Mandrake (current is
> RC3, and its possible that the release will be out in two days) is a
> good idea. the RC3 is considered release quality by Mandrake as far as I
> know.

I don't. I have tested it and I still find some unresolved symbols in some 
RPMS, had some crashes on KDE 3.0.3 (which I didn't have on my build) and I 
still say that it is not stable nor recommended for newbies. Same goes for 
Red Hat 8.0 (here's something fun - check out from KDE CVS the "arts" 
directory and try to compile it - good luck).

> Now, why install the latest untested .0 version on a newbie's computer ?
> first its not really that untested - it's not like M$ software that was
> tested (no matter how exensivly) only in the company's QA labs: a Linux
> release was tested prior to its release by thousands of users - actuall,
> honest to god, users. thats usually what I usually call tested software.

I'm sorry, but my previous experience with Mandrake and Red Hat .0 showed that 
no matter how many testers have tried their beta - it failed on wide usage 
and had to be majorly updated before recommended to use for newbies. See 
Mandrake 8.0 and Red Hat 7.0.

> Second - 9.0 has tons of newbie friendly enhancements - like the tried
> and tested DrakX installer where most changes since 8.1 were bug fixes,
> the new vastly improved and user friendly Mandrake Control Center,
> Mozilla with all the BiDi fixes, KDE 3.0.3 with all the bug fixes in,
> OpenOffice 1.1 (yes - more bug fixes), Kernel 2.4.19 with the new risky
> stuff turned off, etc. all in all - this promises to be the stablest
> Mandrake release ever - the release of three RCs only goes to show it IMO.

I don't buy that. Sorry. I'm sure that you'll see lots of patches and updates 
after MDK 9.0 will be out the door. Worse - I have 2 crashes while installing 
MDK 9.0 RC2 on a low end pentium machine.

> If I'm asked - I'll recomend to install the latest MDK9.0 release -
> especially for people who are not "power users". but if so decided, I
> will try my best to explain all the aspects of choosing to go with such
> a system and will offer by default the distribution chosen for the
> "official" install party distro (and please don't make it Debian - a
> windows user will not even survive the installation setup before running
> away screaming)

I would really recommend to use Mandrake 8.2 or Red Hat 7.3 with all the 
updates + latest KDE (I don't recommend GNOME 2 as default - from my testing 
- it is very unstable even with GNOME 2.0.1 and there are lots of GTK 1.x 
apps which will be problematic for newbies to use with hebrew, but I would 
definately recommend to install it and the latest GnomeMeeting)

Just my .20 NIS (unemployeed, what did you expect? :)

Hetz

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