On Wednesday 02 October 2002 17:28, Tal Peer wrote: > Ely Levy wrote: > >You are right I missed the part where OSI became stupid and immitated FSF > >it wasn't always like that AFAIK. > >you are right OSI and FSF are the same, but opensource and fs are not the > >same by far. > >one require the program to be free one require the program to be giving > >with its sources. > >and altough OSI no longer know the diffrance law people does. > >they don't expect sun to give away solaris for free or ms to give windows > >for free they want to have the source code with it. > >even BSDI required license then suddenly they are not open source anymore? > > AFAIK, what _you_ mean by 'free software' is actually 'freeware' (free > as in beer..) >
Open Source = software that is accompanied by sources, whether commercial or not, whether are derivative works permitted or not. Free Software = software that is free as in freedom and can be freely modified, IMPLYING that it is opensource. Freeware = software that is free as in free beer. Does NOT imply distribution of sources or licenseability to derivative works. IANAL. > >Ely Levy > >System group > >Hebrew University > >Jerusalem Israel > > > >On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: > >>On Wed, Oct 02, 2002, Ely Levy wrote about "Re: open source law?": > >>>OPEN SOURCE (not fs) > >> > >>Oh, let's not start this pointless and endless argument again :( > >>There is no difference between "Open Source" (www.opensource.org) > >>and "Free Software" (not copyleft!) licenses. These are two political > >>camps, emphesizing different things - not two license types. > >> > >>If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... > >> > >>See also http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/stallman.html > >>where Stallman is admitting (surprise!): > >> > >> "... "Free software" and "Open Source" describe the same category of > >> software, more or less, but say different things about the software, > >> and about values. The GNU Project continues to use the term "free > >> software," to express the idea that freedom, not just technology, is > >> important." > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Nadav Har'El | Wednesday, Oct 2 2002, 26 Tishri > >> 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> |----------------------------------------- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ > >> 13349191 |A Nobel Peace Prize? I would KILL for one > >> http://nadav.harel.org.il |of those. > > > >================================================================= > >To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > >the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > >echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
