Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Oded Arbel wrote:
>
>
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>>>The switch back to the RPM system is a bit traumatic for me. I MISS
>>>APT-GET!!!!! I managed to find a tool that will let me install a package
>>>by name if it's on the Mandrake CDs, and that's fine as far as it gets.
>>>
>>>
>>Like my esteemed colleges have already mentioned, the Mandrake urpmi system is
>>mostly a good apt-get replacement (it does not _yet_ compile packages from
>>sources),
>>
>>
>
>As Shahar mentioned, the main problem with redhat and mandrake in that
>sense is not with the tools, but with the packages themselves.
>
>In that sense a more relevant question is:
>
>would urpmi allow me to upgrade a live system from a default installation
>of mandrake 8.2 to mandrake 9.0? Technologically it is possible. Buyt does
>it actually work? What are the chances of this blowing-off in the middle,
>or failing over some dependency?
>
>
I'll add to what Tzafrir said - The reason I was using the same distro
without reinstalling before this crash came along is that, with debian,
you don't need to. The system was kept up to date with practically no
effort on my side. That requires three things:
A. Automated infrastructure - the technical means of automatically
upgrading.
B. Dependable packages - The piece of mind that letting the automatic
procedure upgrade everything will not break my system.
C. Good coverage - The packages covered by the automatic system actually
cover all the packages you need and have installed.
A is available to all distros nowadays. I have already found Mandrake
lacking on C. Now, can anyone comment on B?
>>>1. KDE 3 supports Hebrew. In KDE 2, however, I had the choice of
>>>defining the codepage to support Hebrew, while the user interface was
>>>english. I cannot seem to locate that option any more. It seems that the
>>>only way I'll be able to get Hebrew characters is if the user interface
>>>is Hebrew as well. Is that really the case? Am I missing something?
>>>
>>>
>>Yes. just run KControl and go to 'peripherals' and then 'keyboard'. enable
>>keyboard layout and check the "Israeli" keyboard. you can also set some
>>options for xkb - I usually set it to remember the keyboard setting for
>>window class, allow to switch layouts with ALT-SHIFT and turn on the
>>scroll-lock led to indicate alternate layout. I'm not sure if you need the
>>kde-i18n-he package to do that or only if you want Hebrew interface, but I
>>kind of like the Hebrew interface and I'm using it all the time at home. most
>>people think I'm weird.
>>
>>
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>kde-i18nhe is only the interface
>
>Xkb coulod be (and better be, IMHO) configured independently of KDE, is
>ats keyboard applet is misleading.
>
>
Actually, I was ok with the kde keyboard switch app. I have still not
found an answer to my question, though.
I did what all of you suggested. I have an Israeli layout defined. When
I try to type stuff with it, however, I only get question marks. I have
just remebered that the last time I had to install a Hebrew locale in
the system to solve that.
Still, KDE-2 would let me define default character encoding
independantly from the keyboard layout OR interface language. I want to
be able to type and see Hebrew characters without switching the entire
system to hebrew! Anyone?
Shachar
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