As I read your message, I am not convinced myself that this is 
actually needed. Further more, hopefully subscribers will ask for
it in the future just for themselves, i.e without trying to convince
the ISP how beneficial it is for him. If there will be enough demand
the ISP would recognize the need by itself. However setting an 
unneeded mirrors now would just raise difficulties if/when there will
be demand in the future.

Maybe it will be better to just encourage people to ask their ISP for
a mirror in a hope that enough vocal demand will create the need?

In addition, I am not sure that such mirrors doesn't require someone
to actively maintain it. And I don't mean just the fact that for some
reason last night rsync was unsuccessful. What I mean is, for example
that someone should actually add the new RH image to the mirror when
RH releases its new version and delete the old one.

As for the full debian mirror, this was partially discussed some weeks
ago, either here or on debian-il. My impression is that the current
debian mirrors serve the demand, mostly because debian is hardly used
here on many of its available platforms. Am I wrong about this?

In any case, please report here what happens with your efforts.


On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:51:36PM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> Ladies and Gentleman,
> 
> 
> I am talking with one of the larger ISPs here in Israel and trying to 
> convince them to provide us with a box and bandwidth to mirror some 
> stuff we would like.
> They asked me to write a nice letter for the marketing department
> where I explain why is it good for them to provide such a mirror.
> 
> So without going into the technical explanation that they will
> save on international incomming traffic while they might pay with 
> increased outgoing traffic on the IIX I'll need your help in the 
> marketing speak.
> 
> I need actually help in two things:
> 
> 1) Marketing speak why is it good for the ISP to provide mirrors
>    of various Open Source projects.
> 
> 2) A list of things you think they should mirror along with their size.
>    e.g. I think this could be used to setup a full debian mirror
>    AFAIK and I don't use it what we have now is a partial mirror.
>    It could be ftp.il.debian.org - a primary mirror.
> 
>    The question of course what do you ppl think is needed ?
> 
>    CPAN - of course I'll tell them   (1.3 Gb)
> 
> regards
> 
> Gabor
> http://www.perl.org.il/
> ps. don't forget we have the Perl meeting on thursday at 18:00
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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