Quoting Shoshannah Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> C. complain at the site, and meantime use the phone to call Eggedd
> (that is what I do)

I do that, but it doesn't work. Of all the sites I complained to, the only one
who did anything was yellow pages, which didn't improve its site, merely removed
the blocking of non-MSIE browsers.

I am currently in a series of e-mails with BuildAGate, who have a
site-generation software, written in PHP, but not supporting Mozilla and
Konqueror very well. (Try www.hayadan.org.il in Konqueror, and try
www.dynonon.com in both). It's funny that people who write in PHP should do
things this way, like dirtying the entire site with Javascript where there
should be no Javascript (a Javascript to put an item in the basket? Good
grief!). At least they were serious enough to install the latest version of
Netscape - although they gave me the answers regarding Hebrew and compatibility
in general which were true two years ago. Amazing how old information sticks.
Would anybody else beside me try to influence them?

http://www.buildagate.com/

Another site to whine about is the Knesset site.

Anyway, in general, the "convince the site" approach just doesn't work. We are
left frustrated with letters that say "thank you for your information", or "you
are a minority, shut up", or "We don't support Netscape, bla bla bla circa
1999". We need a different approach in a hurry, because bad web sites really
flood Israel, what with commercial bodies hiring cheap programmers who are
willing to work for food, and who grew up in ASP city (John Bryce courses...)

Organize? Maybe create a site or a subsite which contains links of all the
uncooperative sites, and give them bad rap in the press? Create a nice PDF in
Hebrew about standardization of a site, and send it to management levels in
those companies? I'm at a loss. For me it's worse than most of you - my other OS
is a MacOS...

Herouth

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