Shoshannah Forbes wrote on 2003-06-08:
> I was contacted by "Ort" for help making their CMS system ("Merhavim"
> "מרחבים") compatible to standards, and not just ie browsers as it is at
> the moment (gecko displays a blank page, khtml safari only the top line)
>
> The system runs a few sites, including http://www.nagish.org.il
>
Indeed, a blank page:
<html>
<frameset>
<frame name="site" src="../@HOME/scripts/frame.asp?sp_c=424450463"
marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no"
frameborder="0">
</frameset>
</html>
And the frame src address shows this very page (in mozilla). `curl`
with the same address does show the intended source - all JavaScript,
the only HTML is generated by ``document.write()s. It seems to do a
lot of frames access in JS which IIRC is unportable.
Continuing the URL chase in curl works to some extent. E.g.
http://www.nagish.org.il/../@HOME/scripts/frame_title.asp?sp_c=424450463
shows the top frame fine in mozilla and
http://www.nagish.org.il/../@HOME/scripts/frame_bar.asp?sp_c=424450463
does load a lot of JS but doesn't show anything useful. So my guess
it that the frame manipulation from JS is the main portability
problem...
Do you have any pointer to resources on the "CMS" system itself?
Reverse-engineering something that obfuscatedly doesn't work is not
pleasant; even with an IE it's still not that pleasant.
The main Merhavim link is <http://space.ort.org.il/>, right? Some
things there do work, in particular MotNet - even in mozilla:
http://www.motnet.proj.ac.il/scripts/main.asp
It seems to be built with the same system. Perhaps checking why it
does work will help them. One notable difference is the lack of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and the like in its URLs.
In the long run, IMHO, anything so deeply Java(s)Criptic must be in
want of rewrite in clean XHTML/CSS. That "nagish" ("accessible") site
sounds like a joke. What about e.g. lynx with screen readers?
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