----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beni Cherniavsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >  For a procedural language - Pascal is fine.
>
> It has no concept of libraries and separate compilation.

That's not exactly correct. Pascal does have libraries (even so on unix).
the nice thing is that with RTTI you don't need header files to compile
against (which could be changed in a way not compatible to the binary object
and break everything) - it is customary to eitehr supply the full source
code of the library or at least the "interface" part (function decleration)
but it isn't necessary.
.
> It encourages static-sized array

not correct as well -Pascal had a malloc equivalent (getmem()/freemem()) as
long as I remember.

> And a student that is
> not irritated by Pascal wasn't taught well - he can't tell good tools
> from bad ones.

That's just programming langauges bigotry. if you're so distressed over a
few characters more to write, then go write in perl where you can hack a lot
of code using nothing but weird characters. terseness is the opposite of
readability, and readability is very good for teaching.

--
Oded


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