>>>>> "Shachar" == Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Shachar> Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
>> Under RH8 I had Hebrew working just fine on my machine. I was
>> using KDE's keyboard layout. I just upgraded to RH9 (with KDE
>> 3.1.2), and now it doesn't work.
>>
>> I discovered from
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kde-il/message/206 that the
>> keyboard configuration under RH9 "seems completely broken".
>>
>> So, I tried using the suggested Xkb workaround -
>>
>> /usr/X11R6/bin/setxkbmap -compat "group_led" -symbols \
>> "us(pc101)+il+group(alt_shift_toggle)+group(switch)" That
>> worked fine (I can switch back and forth between Hebrew and
>> English), except for the thing I need it for most:
>>
>> I need to run an application on a remote (VMS) machine,
>> displaying on my machine, which needs Hebrew input. I am unable
>> to get Hebrew input in the window from the remote machine. To
>> be completely clear: If I telnet to the remote machine, and
>> then create another window
>> displayed on my machine, and then switch to Hebrew, I get
>> Hebrew in the telnet session, but no Hebrew in the remotely
>> displayed window. This was working fine under RH8, and in fact
>> if I use KDE's broken keyboard utility under RH9 I do get
>> Hebrew in the remotely displayed window (just can't get back to
>> English, since it's broken).
>>
>> Is there some setxkbmap option I need to know about ? Is there
>> some logical explanation for what is going on ? Can anyone
>> help me ?
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>>
>>
Shachar> It sounds like your remote VMS utility is having problem
Shachar> with XKB's backwards compatibility. There is a
Shachar> fundemental difference between KDE's keyboard switch
Shachar> utility and the configuration you did. The configuration
Shachar> you did (which is the recommended way to go) loads two
Shachar> layouts one besides the other, and switches between
Shachar> them. This is the case for pre 4.3.0 XFree too (the only
Shachar> diffrerence is that there, you had to couple the English
Shachar> and Hebrew keyboards, and had no other choice). The
Shachar> option to do this is defined by an X extension called
Shachar> "XKB", which dates back to 1996 (IIRC).
Shachar> The KDE utility actually changes keymaps each and every
Shachar> time you change language. This requires no X extension at
Shachar> all. XKB is supposed to provide backwards compatibility
Shachar> to utilities that are not XKB aware, which is supposed to
Shachar> make them think that what is happening is what the KDE
Shachar> keyboard switch utility is doing. It sounds as if this
Shachar> does not work properly in your case.
Thanks for all the information !
Shachar> I think the only useful piece of information this email
Shachar> does not hold is what you can do about it :-)
Could it be that I have to tell XKB to use the backward compatibility
mode ?
Could I use setxkbmap or something else to change keymaps back and
forth, like the KDE utility does ?
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