On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Pine > > Has a license issue. Thus it is not exactly part of debian. I believe > that it is in a process of being dropped-of from other distros: Is it in > recent RedHats?
It's dropped in Fedora Core. > Mandrake comply with its license by changing the version name > > > Latex+Hebrew > > [ Mandrake has a relatively obsolete copy. Debian has a more recent > copy. I'm not sure about gentoo ] > > > Lynx > > XEmacs/Emacs > > Recent gnu emacs is supposed to be getting bidi support, right? Not merged with HEAD yet AFAIK. > > Vim > > Xmms + mp3 > > Has a minor legal issue for any distro that wants to be available in the > US. > > > Xpdf > > gv > > Kdevelop > > Eclipse > > Actually now Ecipse should be able to be built with gcj and thus not > require a non-free jvm, right? > > > All the POSIX utils > > [ Try busybox. Will get you about a half... ] > > > No ADware. > > Can anybody comment on the adware in Mandrake? (unless someone already > has and I missed it somehow) > > > Management: > > APT based, so I can upgrade just about everything but the kernel, on-line. > > Never have to reinstall/upgrade the OS offline. > > Mandrake has urpmi, which has most of apt's functionality. It seems to > lack some of the finer-grain control features of apt, but it basically > works, and it more mature than apt-rpm. > > > 1. RH and Mandrake have this annoying "upgrade every year or no security > > updates" policy. > > Also upgrading from one version to another is a ceremony of taking the machine > > With RedHat this seems to be: "a release cycle of 4-6 monthes. Errata > release up until 2-3 monthes after the next distor's release.", right? Red Hat used to have 12months of errata, with the new infrastructure, perhaps you can easily upgrade. I myself live on rawhide. A single yum update every night does that. > Mandrake: 18 monthes. > > > down for a few hours. > > I can't blame them, they need some way to make us upgrade and buy the new > > version. > > > > 2. Debian is close, but Woody is very old and no Hebrew support. > > It has Hebrew latex, at least... > > You can also easily find good sources of recent KDE for woody. And > probably gnome as well. > > > Unstable is well... unstable, the kde is broken because of a broken > > libsensors. > > It seem to work, it has problems and it's a moving target, keeping a secure > > and stable machine with it is not easy. > > > > 3. The closest thing I got is Gentoo, > > if you rule out debian testing or unstable, you should try Mandrake. It > seems to have almost anything you need, except , maybe the most recent > version of mozilla. The version of OO may need some upgrade (Diego: are > those bugs indfeed due to the use of rc4?). > > And you can't expect a stable distro to be on the edge. You'll have to > get secuirty errata, and you wouldn't want to need to rebuild half your > system for installing a security patch. Mandrake currently is the most > recently-released, and thus has an edge here. Fedora Core 1 will be released November 3rd. > (at least if your CD isn't LG...) > > If you like bleeding edge, then try the one supplied by each distro. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
