As I understand opetron behaves differently and many performance tests on
the web gives
it a tumbs up.

Regards,
        tzahi.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnon Klein
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.)
> 
> 
> We have here some dual-athlon MP computers, and we're having alot of 
> troubles with them.
> My PC (2xMP-1800) hangs after more than 15 minutes of 200% 
> CPU usage. I 
> think it's because the CPU heats the memory modules.
> Another one, used as a server, suffered a lot of crashes until we 
> changed the case to a monsterous-looking thermaltake, and now it 
> functions fine, but glows in the dark :) . This one is a dual MP-2000.
> 
> Both of the motherboards are tyan-tiger (i don't recall the exact 
> model). One of them doesn't have thermal sensors at all(!!!), and the 
> other one has thermal sensors, but linux has trouble reading those, 
> requiring installing a buggy module. This module is responsible for 
> several crashes on its own...
> 
> I've heard that the newer AMD chips produce less heat, so 
> they may be a 
> good choice. But counting on my experience, you don't want to use the 
> above mentioned CPUs AND mobos.
> 
> Arnon
> 
> Tal Achituv wrote:
> 
> >1) I have to say that some of the biggest vendors in Israel 
> are selling 
> >junk motherboards with their AMD servers, We have here a 
> dual Athlon MP 
> >server, which had many problems, and it turned out to be the 
> fault of 
> >the BETA-BIOS firmware!!!
> >
> >Who in a sane mind would sell a mobo with BETA bios?
> >
> >Anyway - I must say I am very happy with the performance 
> since the bios 
> >update.
> >
> >2) regarding overheating - my AMD cpu's usually run even cooler than 
> >the Intel equivalent, BUT - never remove a heatsink from an 
> AMD... the 
> >sysadmin here removed one for about 3 seconds, and the cpu 
> core blew up 
> >(white smoke and cracking noise) - this was with an Athlon-XP+2000
> >
> >>From my experience an Intel would just shut-down... anyone know if 
> >>this is a motherboard feature or a CPU feature?!
> >
> >Regards,
> >Tal.
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