On Saturday, Oct 30, 2004, at 19:13 Asia/Jerusalem, Amit Aronovitch wrote:
2) Applications don't always handle them right. For example, OpenOffice handles them correctly, but makes them visible - depending on the font, you usually see an annoying blank square in their place (they should be invisible - at least if you call yourself WYSIWIG).
Actually, OpenOffice behaves better than you said. When you enter the characters you may get a square, but as soon as you put some text next to them, the squares disappear. At least that's what happens in my environment.
By the way, the lyx keyboard variant only contains the marking characters, not the embedding characters. I had a discussion about this in Whatsup this week. I see embedding as more natural, as you don't have to think "Hmm, BiDi problem. If I put an English character somewhere, it should solve it, now what is the proper way to put the extra character?". You just embed the whole English phrase.
I just wonder, if I find how to incorporate the LRE, RLE and PDF characters into the lyx variant, how I'm going to push it to the world. The lyx and SI variants are distributed with every Linux, or at least with every Linux that has KDE.
By the way, I think this is not the ultimate solution to this problem. Because the characters are invisible, it makes editing them very hard. I prefer the word processor itself to handle this - as Word does in Windows and Mellel does on MacOS X. In Word you mark spans of text as English or Hebrew and it attaches directionality to that span. I had a serious problem when I exported my resum� from OpenOffice to Word: it was exported entirely as English, and thus all the punctuation had the wrong directionality, and I had to mark it as Hebrew one by one where it actually was. If OpenOffice had a span directionality feature, and used it when exporting to Word, the problem would be solved.
In Mellel you can embed directionality using a style. This is another spin on span directionality...
Herouth
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