On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:54:43PM +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Please excuse the somewhat-offtopic subject. I think it concerns and
> interests quite many people here.
> 
> I want something like the following (no real, thought out design,
> just a sketch):
> 
> A client machine (think about a thin, maybe netbooting diskless PC
> one, but doesn't have to be) somehow gets a login screen from a
> remote server. This login dialog allows the following:
> 1. The usuall stuff one finds in gdm/kdm/xdm/wdm/*dm

Is xdmcp a must?

anything better?

> 2. An option for a "persistent" session.
> If the user chooses the persistent session, one of the following
> happens:
> 2.1 If there is already a session for this user on the server, it
> is attached immediately. An option to create a new session might
> be in the first dialog, but I want the default to be as fast and
> automatic as possible.
> 2.2 If there is no session, a new dialog, maybe consisting of most
> of the session types of the first, appears, letting the user
> choose a session type for this new session. Then it's created and
> connected to.
> 
> In addition, it should be:
> * At least as fast as X when on a LAN, preferably with all the extensions
> the real X has (if it is indeed an X) - e.g. GLX, with the hardware
> acceleration if available.
> * At least as fast as the fastest remote slow-link compressor available
> today (I think that's currently nomachine's NX).
> 
> There are few mostly-independent issues here:
> * Speed and features
> This is already mostly available today, as separate protocols/programs,
> not as something dynamic (e.g. a VNC session has the extensions it has
> based on how the VNC server was compiled/configured. It can't use exts
> available on the actual client dynamically, I think).
> * Low network bandwidth use
> This is the most worked-on issue, and is getting better every year.
> * Comfortability and automation (securely!)
> I know almost no work in this direction. The closest I could find is
> a project to add internally VNC support to gdm by someone at RedHat
> (google for 'gdm vnc').
> 
> I might have a few mistakes in the above (e.g. maybe VNC is smarter
> than I thought, I read only little of the docs), but you'll agree
> that the fact that Unix/Linux had remote display for more than 15
> years, but almost no useful session persistence, while Windows has
> only around 7 years of remote display, with comfortable persistence
> from day one - is simply amazing.

VNC has been around long. I also don't believe that OpenGL/DirectX works
well over such persistant sessions.

What about NX? I heard andread about it, but never tried it.

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