On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:59:13PM +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote:
> > open question to the list:
> >
> > I'm considering starting a community project that would create 
> > ready-to-install "stacks" for Lamp, LamJ and Webapp clustering
> > the idea is a stack forend user customers which :
> >
> > 1. is certified (and/or bundled) for a particular distro(rh 3 or caos)
>
> Why not provide the whole distro?

The original distro already has all packages.
What is missing is:
1. Selection of the packages needed for a particular application.
   For example, in Debian you may want to define a 'lamp' meta-package,
   which when selected, will cause all required LAMP packages to be
   installed).
   Maybe also in urpmi and in the gentoo what-is-its-name there are
   similar capabilities.
2. Default configuration suitable for the busy admin.
3. Customization tools which are friendly to the busy admin.

> > 3. has a single uniform Web installer and configuratorthat lets a
> > simple minded admin add modules she/he needs
>
> Web installer? What's wrong with yum/apt/whatever ?
>
> Why would you need an installer on top of the distro's installer?

This is a poor choice of terminology.  In Debian you have aptitude working
over apt-get working over dpkg.  Yet all three are called installers (or
package managers).  Debian has also tasksel, which is nearer in spirit to
what I described above.

> > 4. installs in 10'
>
> A complete distro installs in just about 10 minutes. Downloaing takes
> some more.

which merely means that the target of 10' install can be easily achieved.
Just do not cause the admin to lose more than 9:59 minutes of his time
learning, bogging in details and configuring the stuff.

                                             --- Omer
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