On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 11:18:21AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>>    As I see it, the only way they'd understand it is if enough people move
>> their accounts elsewhere. I have already moved my account to another bank.
>> If enough people do so (citing the same reason) they might have enough
>> incentive to change.
>
> Why would they they change if you already have left them? Are you
> promising to "go back" if they fix their site? If not, they have no
> reason at all to fix their site.
>
> In fact they would be better off spending the money on something that
> would attract I.E. users, such as a web vacation giveaway than on
> supporting users they no longer have and are not going to get.

   I don't agree. An important thing that the marketing management of the
bank wants to know is why customers leave them. It's called customer
preservation. If X clients left your business because of some reason, then
there may be many more clients that are considering leaving for that
reason. If clients X have accounts of Y million shekels, then the may face
losing many more millions if the don't preserve the clients they still have.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: ������ ���� ������� 
> ������ 28/02/2005":
>> What we CAN do, however, is hurt them where they'll feel it. Let's
>> decide on a date, say - April 1st. During that day, all Discount bank
>> Linux users are to call in, once every half an hour or so, and ask what
>> their current balance is. State that you are waiting for your salary to
>> come in, or something. When asked why don't you check that through the
>> Internet, tell them you can't, as they locked you out.
>
> I doubt this is very likely to help. The banks apparently have two completely
> disjoint systems: 1. the human tellers and bankers in the branches, and 2. the
> compterization people working on the Internet front-end. Trying to convince
> the former that you are right, is not going to help with the latter. The
> common manager of the two "systems" is probably very high up the organization
> structure of the bank.

   I agree that we must reach the upper levels of the bank's management.
That's why I propose sending a letter directly to the bank manager with a
list of customers who have already left, and those who are about to leave if
they don't act soon. It may be a good idea to involove the media such as the
"Bulldozer" program on Channel 2.

   Alon

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