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On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 23:11 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > shimi wrote: > > > After looking up in Tyan's site, and looking in the specs of the MB > > (URL: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html > > <http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html%29,> ), I saw > > that it contains "Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA Raid Accelerator". > > > > I contacted the store I am planning on buying the machine from, and > > asked them wether it's well supported in Linux. I got a weird answer > > that "the SATA will work, but you'll have to do the RAID-1 you're > > planning to do by software..." > > > Sounds like a pretty sensible answer. > > > I also looked in the Kernel configuration menus, and found out that > > "Silicon Image" is supported (Device Drivers -> SCSI low-level drivers > > -> Serial ATA (SATA) support -> Silicon Image SATA support [or > > CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL]), however no model names are mentioned there. > > > That only implies support for the HDD as a SATA device; nothing about > being able to control the Hardware RAID features from inside Linux. From > the recent flames[1] on the OpenBSD list on the issue of Adaptec not > releasing enough information to allow supporting their RAID chipset in > Free operating systems, I gather it's a pretty standard (and sad) > situation where you're lucky if you have some management support for > your Hardware RAID. > Ilya, thanks for your reply. I fully understand what it implies (sorry if I wasn't clear about that) - but: 1. The fact that support is listed in the Kernel does not mean that it works (up until 2.6, I had a problem using my FlyVideo TV card WELL although support for it supposed to be there for years...). So I'm asking if someone actually worked with THAT controller, and it worked well :) and... 2. I don't need to control the Hardware RAID from within Linux, as I'll not be building/removing volumes etc on the live system... (however reading errors from the controller would be nice). I was surprised about the fact "the SATA works, but RAID [completely. not only management] will not". I had the impression that when you do a RAID with hardware running it, it appears to the OS as one single device (/dev/sda, probably), and the OS doesn't even KNOW that the drive is mirrored... (that's how it was for me in the past with an Adaptec doing RAID-5 on SCSI drives, it just appeared as /dev/sda. But that was native-SCSI, and maybe SATA is different. I don't know. :)). Hope to get clarifications, and more importantly, success stories! :) -- shimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --=-iuQFSqE5IfCkytOwtoW6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.2.5"> </HEAD> <BODY> On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 23:11 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> <FONT COLOR="#000000">shimi wrote:</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> After looking up in Tyan's site, and looking in the specs of the MB </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> (URL: <A HREF="http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html";>http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html</A> </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> <<A HREF="http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html%29";>http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w_spec.html%29</A>,> ), I saw </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> that it contains "Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA Raid Accelerator".</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> I contacted the store I am planning on buying the machine from, and </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> asked them wether it's well supported in Linux. I got a weird answer </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> that "the SATA will work, but you'll have to do the RAID-1 you're </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> planning to do by software..."</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Sounds like a pretty sensible answer.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> I also looked in the Kernel configuration menus, and found out that </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> "Silicon Image" is supported (Device Drivers -> SCSI low-level drivers </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> -> Serial ATA (SATA) support -> Silicon Image SATA support [or </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL]), however no model names are mentioned there.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">That only implies support for the HDD as a SATA device; nothing about </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">being able to control the Hardware RAID features from inside Linux. From </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">the recent flames[1] on the OpenBSD list on the issue of Adaptec not </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">releasing enough information to allow supporting their RAID chipset in </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Free operating systems, I gather it's a pretty standard (and sad) </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">situation where you're lucky if you have some management support for </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">your Hardware RAID.</FONT> </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> Ilya, thanks for your reply.<BR> <BR> I fully understand what it implies (sorry if I wasn't clear about that) - but:<BR> <BR> 1. The fact that support is listed in the Kernel does not mean that it works (up until 2.6, I had a problem using my FlyVideo TV card WELL although support for it supposed to be there for years...). So I'm asking if someone actually worked with THAT controller, and it worked well :) and...<BR> <BR> 2. I don't need to control the Hardware RAID from within Linux, as I'll not be building/removing volumes etc on the live system... (however reading errors from the controller would be nice). I was surprised about the fact "the SATA works, but RAID [completely. not only management] will not". I had the impression that when you do a RAID with hardware running it, it appears to the OS as one single device (/dev/sda, probably), and the OS doesn't even KNOW that the drive is mirrored... (that's how it was for me in the past with an Adaptec doing RAID-5 on SCSI drives, it just appeared as /dev/sda. But that was native-SCSI, and maybe SATA is different. I don't know. :)).<BR> <BR> Hope to get clarifications, and more importantly, success stories! :)<BR> <BR> <TABLE CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="0" WIDTH="100%"> <TR> <TD> -- <BR> shimi <<A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> </BODY> </HTML> --=-iuQFSqE5IfCkytOwtoW6-- ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
