Comparing attempts to prevent a genocide with breaking the copyrights
law is an insult to whomever been in the holocaust. You cannot dismiss
any laws you do not agree with, it just doesn't work this way - YOU
should get a reality check (and a shrink or a probation officer, ASAP.).
It's not that disobeying this specific law will cause chaos, but the
idea that an individual is obeying only the laws he agrees with will.

The music industry supplies work to the software engineering industry,
hardware, catering, electricity, real estate, and many, many, MANY more,
not to mention that a couple of other large industries, else than the
music industry, rely on the copyrights laws.

You are trying to justify your criminal actions with ethics, which is
just wrong.

But go ahead, share music and other copyrighted material if you want...
I won't be sorry if and when they will rip you off everything you own in
court.

--
Imri Zvik
PGP (2.6.3ia) Public Key: http://mariska.inter.net.il/~imriz/imriz.pgp
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Shlomi Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:22 PM
To: Imri Zvik
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Acting against anti-file-swapping Lawsuits in Israel

On Wednesday 25 May 2005 14:45, Imri Zvik wrote:
> When people start choosing what laws to obey and what not, it is the
> fastest way to chaos. 

The only valid laws are the prevention of initiatory force, threat of
force, 
or fraud against one's self or property (not the so-called "intellectual

property"). All other laws: against drug abuse, against prostitution,
against 
gambling, against insider's information, against monopolies etc. etc.
are 
irrelevant and unethical. 

Violating a law that says that one should not share his music over the 
Internet, will not cause any chaos. People do it all the time, and still
food 
is in supply, stores are open, water is flowing in the pipes, there's
supply 
of electricity, and the Internet is available for commerce and
recreation.

You should get a reality check. 

> The fact is that you still break the laws of the 
> sovereign, democratic entity you're part of, and that would make you
an
> outlaw, a criminal.

If I lived in Nazi Germany and hidden a Jew in my house, (which was
against 
the law) would that make me a criminal? (please don't invoke Godwin's
law 
here)

Laws that are unethical, need not be followed.

> And about the economic system - didn't you ever hear about the term
"The
> Domino Effect"? Music for example pays salaries of numerous of people,
> allowing them to be able to buy other products and services, and by
that
> help other people receive a paycheck. Producing and trading
copyrighted
> materiel is still producing and trading, which is, as you stated, are
> the foundation stones of our economic system. Saying that the fact you
> can't smell/touch it makes it ok, is so... uhmm, idiotic? As far as I
> know, you're not an ostrich, so don't burry your head in the sand.
>

Domino effect.. hmmm... according to this logic, if we lower the income
tax, 
then firing a great deal of government bureaucrats will also cause the 
economy to collapse. ;-)

If people download music instead of buying it, then the public as a
whole will 
be more prosperous, and will spend this money or invest on better
things. 
While we may kill the music industry (highly unlikely, but still) the
other 
industries will be much better off. During the course of human history
entire 
industries were superceded by other ones, and yet we still live to tell
the 
tale, and we are better and more prosperous and more advanced than ever.

Again, you're misapplying concepts.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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