I did some research and found that ECI bought these modems from another
manufactorer in the far east (this is an OEM) so matters get a little
more complicated.

Who violated the GPL? it is either the original company whose identity I
don't know yet or ECI.

-- 

Ori Idan


Peter wrote:

>
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
>
>>> I.o.w., if the modules come on disk and are loaded at run time by a
>>> script it's ok. You know what ? That's exactly what they are doing.
>>> Unbelievable.
>>
>>
>> No. If they are distributed together (as in the case of an embedded
>> device), it is surely not "mere aggregation".
>
>
> Well, what the f** is it then ? Did you know that the mips
> architecture has separate flash spaces for each item ? The kernel is
> flashed in a different chip than the compressed root fs for example.
> How do you measure the distance between them to define
> 'non-aggregated' ? mm ? inches ? microns if its a stacked flash ?
>
>> Alan Cox is not OK with this. Harald Welte is not OK with this. Erik
>> Andersen is not OK with this. Just to name a few.
>
>
> Ok.
>
>> See what Linus shouts, loud and clear:
>>
>> http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0312.0/1014.html
>
>
> This makes it clearer.
>
>> Andersen is OK with devices that include Busybox and comply with the
>> GPL. He is very unhappy with devices that include Busybox and violate
>> the GPL:
>>
>> http://busybox.net/shame.html
>
>
> Reading it up ...
>
>>> Yes, you can, if and only if it's linux or open source based and the
>>> license permits you to do that. You are allowed to charge money for
>>> it. You can copy it and sell the copies. This is explicitly
>>> specified in the GPL. The idea is
>>
>>
>> Did you actually read the license? It does not say what you think it
>> says.
>
>
> I thought that the part about copying is clear. The only people who
> decide how much it costs to compile, copy, print and mail an item are
> the distributors. How else could you explain the $100 price tag of a
> Suse or Red Hat box. But you can always go with cheapbytes.
>
>> Try following this, it is not very hard.
>>
>> 1. The ECI router runs Linux.
>>
>> 2. ECI got a copy of Linux from Montavista.
>>
>> 3. Montavista gave ECI both binary and source, so they comply with
>> the license.
>>
>> 4. ECI gave Matan a binary copy of Linux.
>>
>> 5. ECI did not give matan the corresponding source, and did not offer
>> to give such source.
>>
>> 6. Therefore, they did not comply with the license.
>>
>> 7. Therefore, they copied Linux without having a legal right to do so.
>
>
> Hmm. Ok, I see the point. Maybe the license 'got lost' somewhere on
> the way. It would be interesting to know if there is something on the
> b-focus cdrom. I will look tomorrow if I have time.
>
>> Funny, coming from someone who speaks about the GPL, but does not
>> know what it says.
>
>
> Ok, I overreacted. Sorry.
>
> Peter
>
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