On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 04:09:04PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2005, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote about "Re: PC-to-phone > > VoIP": > > > This argument is just as silly (and forgive me, because I don't intend this > > as a personal insult) as saying that you started a company that gives you > > a bucket of water, but the bucket has advertising on it (which is how you > > make your money), and then came along the invention of... piping, and the > > goverment (or city) run water company made you bankrupt. > > That's not quite it. My argument is that someone richer than I am comes > along and gives away free water until everyone else goes out of the > bucket business and then starts charging.
this same argument can be put against FOSS - someone richer then you (richer in their ability to generate work for a very low price) comes along and gives software for free. how would you counter such an attack? and it does not come for free - people and companies vulanteer their time and money to set up mirrors, and their bandwidth to allow distribution of this software to anyone that wants it... whatever else you'll say - this infrastructure costs money and people are giving it away for free. the rules regarding "fair market price" apply to monopoles, or to regulated markets. is wiffi a regulated market? does anyone have a monopole in that market? > > I don't understand what you're saying. If this is the case in Jerusalem, > > then why can't your company succeed after all??? If somebody will want to > > surf in a place where the coverage is bad, they'll need to do it using your > > company's infrastructure, and see your ads. > > Because the city network already exists. No one is going to invest money > in a new network because tomorrow the city will come along and put > you out of business. I simply can't compete with a network supported > by the tax payers. there is a free police, and yet people pay for private police companies, beacuse they give better service. there is free education, and yet private schools flourish. by your definition, the city should stop supplying water, and instead let private companies sell it to people. the question is - do people consider this a "basic service that the municipality should supply" or not - argue about this point with nadav, first. > > I don't see how this is Google's fault...I bet that 90% (or 99%?) of people > > who send their CVs to Google don't get hired. So in the world can Google's > > paychecks (if they are at all as big as you hint...) effect all the other > > programmers who don't work for Google?? > > The market price is established. If a person goes to work for Google, their > job must be filled. Since a person thinks they can get $x for working at > google, you will have to convince them to work for you. There are lots > of ways to do that, one way is to match the salary, another way is > to match the working environment, which is pretty good at google. you could say that google is not being fair, if they go to key employees of other companies directly, and offer them to join them (the way microsoft did in the past, when their stock options were worthy). if google are simply paying more, and making sure to give you a great working environment, i don't think you have anything to complain about - it's not as if google is a monopole in this issue, and the employment market is not regulated - this is not the NBA, yet ;) -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
