What open source solution do you suggest? One that supplies both a client and a server (and no, web based solution will not do.), with good integration between them, full hebrew support, and easy enough to be operated by any non-technical representative/clerk?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Freund Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:29 PM To: Imri Zvik Cc: Ilya Konstantinov; [email protected] Subject: Re: Judging job candidates by their MUAs (Was: [YBA] Job Opening) On 5/17/06, Imri Zvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And you can tell that from looking at the free email service I use? or > from the mail client I use? This email is written with Outlook because > the company I work for use Exchange as the internal mail server (let us > be honest, no open source groupware solutions out there are mature > enough.) - does that alone make me less knowledgeable or "involved"? The last statement will not be helpful for your future job hunting not because it goes against the common view but rather because it is factually wrong. The correct statement is "no open source groupware solutions out there are compatible enough for MS-Outlook in a Windows only environment" > > COME ON. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ilya Konstantinov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:56 PM > To: Imri Zvik > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Judging job candidates by their MUAs (Was: [YBA] Job > Opening) > > Imri, I disagree. Though you can still think of Jonathan's "filter" as a > > personal bias, it's a very useful stat nonetheless, if your company is > looking for a few exceptional people who a) *get* free software (use > free software not only as a job obligation, and get updated about what's > > going in that world outside their work hours), and b) will like working > in your environment. > > There are other parameters for a candidate, such as problem-solving > skills, and perhaps jobs where most problem-solving is done from scratch > > rather than using knowledge-base heads will be better off ignoring the > candidates' extracurricular activities and instead testing them for > problem-solving during the interview. > > Things you can deduce through those outside clues are often things you > won't ask during an interview, and yet they help you form a better image > > of the candidate. (On the other hand, Joel Spolsky's Guerrilla Guide to > Interviewing[1] recommends the opposite: Don't get any detail about a > candidate that might bias your first impression.) > > [1] http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000073.html > > > Imri Zvik wrote: > > > HEH, you are going over the _headers_ and judge people qualifications > by > > the free email service they used, or the mail client they used, and > you > > claim that is *NOT* militarism/fanaticism?? > > > > Again, it's your company, and your call, but it is fanaticism. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Ben > Avraham > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:26 PM > > To: ILUG > > Subject: Re: [YBA] Job Opening > > > > Hi Friends, > > Indeed, besides being more convenient for me personally, the non-MS > > format > > resume is the first indication of the personal FOSS orientation that > we > > are looking for. BTW, I also look at the headers of the emails that > > candidates send to see what mailers they are using. Anyone sending > from > > mutt or pine or even thunderbird passes. There are other class markers > > as > > well, such as PGP, GPGP or S/MIME fingerprints, and sending domain. > > Anyone > > sending us a resume in .doc from hotmail.com is unlikely to get an > > interview. It's not militarism, it's our market. > > > > - yba > > > > > > On Wed, 17 May 2006, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:03:25 +0300 > >> From: Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: [email protected] > >> To: marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Cc: Imri Zvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Oron Peled > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >> Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ILUG > >> > > <[email protected]> > > > >> Subject: Re: [YBA] Job Opening > >> > >> marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > >>> I say, Imri - you off the hip is as militaristic as his preference > >>> to a given set of formats. And you know - since he is the one > >>> offering a job (unlike yourself, who is only kibitzing) - he can be > >>> the one calling the shots on formats. > >>> > >> Let alone the possible consideration that testing the ability of a > >> candidate to convert one's CV to PDF (or another portable format), > or, > >> indeed, *write* one's CV in a way that produces a portable result may > >> be a useful first-line filtering technique. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Gil Freund, Systems Analyst ------------------------------------------- Sysnet consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sysnet.co.il voice: +972-54-2035888, Fax: +972-8-9356026 ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
