On Tuesday 13 June 2006 08:39, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > Hi Shachar, > Both Spamhaus and SORBS are *not* listing IP's on the basis of bounces,
That was exactly Shachar's point. You wrote: > >> Hi Shachar, > >> Spamhaus and SORBS routinely list yahoo, google, hotmail, tiscali and > >> other freemail addresses. So the problem isn't just SpamCop. And Shachar explained: > > > > The main question is WHY they are being blocked. > > So your response basically agrees with the point Shachar was trying to make - the problem *is* just SpamCop. By the way: > I manage this problem on the TkOS mail servers by overriding the SORBS > and SpamHaus blocks for yahoo, gmail, hotmail, etc. If you are using spamcop as well, email from Beyond Security would sometimes be blocked. We use ezmlm, that needs to be manually patched to avoid "bounces" (if you call sending back an error message for a bad subscription request a bounce), so we occasionally get blocked by SpamCop, contact them, and get removed from the list. I admit, we are not as important as google, yahoo and hotmail to deserve special whitelisting, but if we ever wish to hire you guys and send you an email asking for more information, we'll never get a response and go elsewhere, possibly cursing the bad customer service given by TKOS. I'm exaggerating of course, but I think you see my point. <rant> I personally think this is outrageous, not because of the highly likelyhood for false positives, but because the Internet has rules (e.g. "RFCs"), and accepted ways to change those rules. Getting up in the morning and deciding that bounces are evil is not how things should work in our world. </rant> - Aviram ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
