Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Thanks for the technical description. It sounds very similar to what > I suspect they did. Did you know it was Netvision, May I remind you, again, that I believe that what you think happened is NOT what happened? > or did you check > the IP? Your server is located at the Netvision hosting farm (based on its IP). The best way to pull something like what I'm describing off would be there.
Then again, this can be done further away. Of course, the further away you perform such a trick, the less traffic you get, and you miss some. > And if they did it, is there any way for me to find out? Retroactively? Only if they were non-careful. While it happens, however, there actually is what to do to find out whether this is the case or not. > Besides losing some of the E-mails sent to me? Do they leave any > tracks? Can I check the E-mail messages I did received? The headers? > Will they be different? Well, the received line may be broken. It's not easy to spot, and it is possible for a smart interceptor to prevent it (assuming they are, already, on the line). > Is what they did (if they did it) legal? I'm aware of a law that forbids listening in on emails enroute without a court order. I don't know how it applies to "special agencies". I'm not aware of any law that allows blocking of traffic of any kind, but I am not a lawyer. > I assume that if Netvision > got a court order, they will not reveal it to me. I do believe that if the court order said it should be secret, then they are not allowed to. Then again, it's extremely stupid to issue a secrecy order on blocking someone. > I already received > a similar court order once, I had to reveal details of a customer of > mine or I would go to jail. I tried to get out of it, they insisted > and eventually I revealed the details. I felt very bad for betraying > one of my customers. It's the only time I did it, in other cases I > didn't reveal anything. That's why I: 1. Have a lawyer knowledgable in those matters, and mindful of human rights. 2. Make sure that my backup service does not allow ME to read client's data either. It much easier to resist such orders when you simply don't have the information law enforcement is after. Having said that, our privacy policy clearly states that should a court order arrive that demands that we hand over information, that we will. > And even if they got a court order, can a court order allow them to > block some of my incoming messages? And if not, if the court order > doesn't allow it, then I guess they probably did it illegally. Or > maybe even there is no court order, someone who works at Netvision or > has access there did it, without asking permission? What do you > think? Too much hypothesis for me. > > Uri. > Let's agree that if such a thing happens again, give me a call (google knows my number, search for my resume). Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
