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Thanks, Julian and Josh. Note that IE is *not* explicitly mentioned by name in the entire document. It is *implicitly* referenced as an Operating System (OS) component. Given the anti-trust case, Microsoft wouldn't want to go back to court arguing that IE is an Operating System component. Would you call it an OS component? Is it necessary for the operation of the rest of the OS? Can it be uninstalled without compromising system operation? Isn't it an application? Then again, if your philosophy is that software can only be used with the explicit consent of the IP owner then it's a moot point. I think that there's quite a bit of gray here, though. Microsoft's tendency to lock up markets, especially the Israeli market, can't be without its occasonal double edges. ;-) Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 01:20 -0700, Michael Jaffe escribi�: > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Julian Daich wrote:By the way, you will need a MS Winows (sic) license to > legally use IE. > Why? I don't think IE is an integral part of Windows. I think Microsoft > argued that in its antitrust court case, when it stated that it had not > forced Windows users to utilize only IE, that it had enabled competing > products/browsers. Does it say anywhere in IE's license that it's use is > allowed only within MS Windows? Check at the IE license( aka EULA). http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/ieplatform/ie/license.txt �IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ANY "OS PRODUCT" (MICROSOFT WINDOWS 95, MICROSOFT WINDOWS 98, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT WORKSTATION 4.0, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER 4.0, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER, ENTERPRISE EDITION 4.0 OR MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER 4.0, TERMINAL SERVER EDITION), YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO INSTALL, COPY, OR OTHERWISE USE THE OS COMPONENTS AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS UNDER THIS SUPPLEMENTAL EULA.� J > > ==================================== > J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D. > EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PHONE: +972 4 6398160 > FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160 > FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486 > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:By the way, you will need a MS Winows > (sic) license to legally use IE. Why? I don't think IE is an integral part of Windows. I think Microsoft argued that in its antitrust court case, when it stated that it had not forced Windows users to utilize only IE, that it had enabled competing products/browsers. Does it say anywhere in IE's license that it's use is allowed only within MS Windows? ==================================== J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D. EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PHONE: +972 4 6398160 FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160 FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486 > --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906-- > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Julian Daich ==================================== J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D. EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PHONE: +972 4 6398160 FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160 FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486 --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. --0-1301579810-1158225621=:47990 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks, Julian and Josh.<br><br>Note that IE is *not* explicitly mentioned by name in the entire document. It is *implicitly* referenced as an Operating System (OS) component. Given the anti-trust case, Microsoft wouldn't want to go back to court arguing that IE is an Operating System component. Would you call it an OS component? Is it necessary for the operation of the rest of the OS? Can it be uninstalled without compromising system operation? Isn't it an application?<br><br>Then again, if your philosophy is that software can only be used with the explicit consent of the IP owner then it's a moot point. I think that there's quite a bit of gray here, though. Microsoft's tendency to lock up markets, especially the Israeli market, can't be without its occasonal double edges. ;-)<br><br><b><i>Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 01:20 -0700, Michael Jaffe escribi�:<br>> --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906<br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1<br>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit<br>> <br>> Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:By the way, you will need a MS Winows (sic) license to legally use IE.<br>> Why? I don't think IE is an integral part of Windows. I think Microsoft argued that in its antitrust court case, when it stated that it had not forced Windows users to utilize only IE, that it had enabled competing products/browsers. Does it say anywhere in IE's license that it's use is allowed only within MS Windows?<br>Check at the IE license( aka EULA).<br>http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/ieplatform/ie/license.txt<br><br>�IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ANY "OS PRODUCT" (MICROSOFT<br>WINDOWS <br>95, MICROSOFT WINDOWS 98, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT WORKSTATION 4.0, MICROSOFT <br>WINDOWS NT SERVER 4.0, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER, ENTERPRISE EDITION 4.0 OR <br>MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER 4.0, TERMINAL SERVER EDITION), YOU ARE NOT <br>AUTHORIZED TO INSTALL, COPY, OR OTHERWISE USE THE OS COMPONENTS AND YOU HAVE <br>NO RIGHTS UNDER THIS SUPPLEMENTAL EULA.�<br><br>J<br><br><br><br>> <br>> ====================================<br>> J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D.<br>> EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> PHONE: +972 4 6398160<br>> FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160<br>> FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486<br>> <br>> ---------------------------------<br>> Do you Yahoo!?<br>> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.<br>> --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906<br>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1<br>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit<br>> <br>> <b><i>Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></i></b> wrote:</[EMAIL PROTECTED]><blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">By the way, you will need a MS Winows (sic) license to legally use IE.<br></blockquote>Why? I don't think IE is an integral part of Windows. I think Microsoft argued that in its antitrust court case, when it stated that it had not forced Windows users to utilize only IE, that it had enabled competing products/browsers. Does it say anywhere in IE's license that it's use is allowed only within MS Windows?<br><br><br>====================================<br>J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D.<br>EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>PHONE: +972 4 6398160<br>FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160<br>FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486<div> <br>> </div><hr size="1">Do you Yahoo!?<br> <br>> Get on board. <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40791/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta";>You're invited</a> to try the new Yahoo! Mail.<br>> --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906--<br>> <br>> =================================================================<br>> To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with<br>> the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command<br>> echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> <br>-- <br>Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br><br></[EMAIL PROTECTED]></blockquote><br><BR><BR>====================================<br>J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D.<br>EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>PHONE: +972 4 6398160<br>FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160<br>FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486<p>  <hr size=1>Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42974/*http://www.yahoo.com/preview";> Check it out.</a> --0-1301579810-1158225621=:47990-- ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
