On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 20:02 +0300, Erez D wrote:
> in the end i had no choise but to reboot the server.
> btw, i tried once to mount -t cifs, and it took 5 minutes to hang the
> server so i was back to smb
> 
> anyway,  i rebooted the windows machine without umounting the smb
> share many times , and it was no problem, the mount continued to work
> after the windows was up again.
> 
> 
> i am using linux since about 1994, and the umount problem was always relevant.
> then it was nfs, now it is smb (and probably nfs too)
> 
> just can't figure out how a stable and mature system like linux, still
> have problems like
> a process that can't be killed even with -9, and that the only
> solution is to reboot
> 
> we used to make fun of windows that had to be rebooted for anything,
> and that linux could do anything without a reboot.
> 
> erez.

Windows, like any other OS suffers from the same problem.
No existing OS can kill a process once it's sleeping inside the kernel
or if a kernel device/driver has hanged/crashed/died a horrible death.
In this respect Task manager -> Debug progress -> Kill (Windows) is not
better then kill -9.

At least Linux won't crash with a horrible blue screen if a kernel
module dies in most contexts.

- Gilboa


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